Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Im still not sure if it needs a tranny or if the converter is not hooked up right OK Don wrote: And I have the tranny it needs --- On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have a 87 190Dt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Maybe the cam is locked up and bottom end is Ok. Take the chain loose to check. Bob Rentfro wrote: Noit moves not. Nothing. Bob R On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in the chain will allow? Bob Rentfro wrote: Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top. Whatever is broken is below, evidently. Time to start cleaning her out. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get it. In either case I'd be driving it now rather than futzing with the red 190D. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:47:50 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: sig.57882d0ec8.4c1ed2d6.3070...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed damn, I sure do miss that Quantum, sort of. Kind of wish Iwould have kept it a while. Oh well. Curt Raymond wrote: Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum it was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA... -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I think you're in the better situation right now --- let's see, MB vs. VW -- hm. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get it. In either case I'd be driving it now rather than futzing with the red 190D. -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Ehh, whatever. I did like the car, my wife hated it though. I'd have liked the 45mpg. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:06:15 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: aanlktikvqfl5y3-g3enofwfxtq1hxoxip2feinllb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think you're in the better situation right now --- let's see, MB vs. VW -- hm. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get it. In either case I'd be driving it now rather than futzing with the red 190D. -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well ... EdB On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: There is no rust to speak of. Just one small area behind passenger rear wheel. None anywhere else. This car has been in CA and AZ ll its life. Bob R On Jun 19, 2010 4:35 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails? EdB On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a brok... -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___... http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:/... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top. Whatever is broken is below, evidently. Time to start cleaning her out. Bob R On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well ... EdB On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: There is no rust to speak of. Just one small area behind passenger rear wheel. None anywhere else. This car has been in CA and AZ ll its life. Bob R On Jun 19, 2010 4:35 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails? EdB On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a brok... -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___... http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:/... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum it was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA... -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:01:34 -0400 From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: aanlktinubo7hfgh4tyiikbuuls-zzdospuwjp4xmm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well ... EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then sent to the crusher. Such a shame. Ed Booher wrote: No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well ... EdB -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in the chain will allow? Bob Rentfro wrote: Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top. Whatever is broken is below, evidently. Time to start cleaning her out. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
damn, I sure do miss that Quantum, sort of. Kind of wish Iwould have kept it a while. Oh well. Curt Raymond wrote: Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum it was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA... -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then sent to the crusher. Such a shame. Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Got an '85 CD or a '87 190dt ? Rick _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have a 87 190Dt Rick Knoble wrote: I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then sent to the crusher. Such a shame. Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Got an '85 CD or a '87 190dt ? Rick _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
And I have the tranny it needs --- On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have a 87 190Dt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Noit moves not. Nothing. Bob R On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in the chain will allow? Bob Rentfro wrote: Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top. Whatever is broken is below, evidently. Time to start cleaning her out. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails? EdB On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the '80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D. What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns are too far away. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
There is no rust to speak of. Just one small area behind passenger rear wheel. None anywhere else. This car has been in CA and AZ ll its life. Bob R On Jun 19, 2010 4:35 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails? EdB On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a brok... -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___... http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:/... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Jack up the radiator cap, drive a newer car under it! -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. On 6/17/2010 9:53 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote: yep, you might be able to tear it down and rebuild it, but usually when the lock its best to just find a good used motor, or scrap the car. That would be a shame though. Bob Rentfro wrote: I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
AMEN... Bob r On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at ONE with the crank forever. RIP. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I'd really like to know the root cause, if you're inclined to investigate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work AMEN... Bob r On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at ONE with the crank forever. RIP. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I missed part of the thread, what happened? Did you break the timing chain ? Ed 300E On 18 June 2010 08:33, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I'd really like to know the root cause, if you're inclined to investigate. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work AMEN... Bob r On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at ONE with the crank forever. RIP. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
But its probably in nice shape otherwise? Its a shame when they get to that point. If the paint and body are in good shape, it might be worth it to fnd a wrecked or rusty car with good parts. What year is it? What color is your seats? Bob Rentfro wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Water pump? Timing chain? -Curt Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: aanlktimfhlhw2uafnllxfeoc_ktiycsqvx1u_ezfx...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand. It;s the engine I'm afraid. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Unless you have the time and enjoy the work, it sounds to me like it's a parts car now. You should be able to find a decent replacement, even a nice upgrade, much less money than it will cost to fix this one up, given everything you've listed and now the seized engine. Allan On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:41 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: But its probably in nice shape otherwise? Its a shame when they get to that point. If the paint and body are in good shape, it might be worth it to fnd a wrecked or rusty car with good parts. What year is it? What color is your seats? Bob Rentfro wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Don't assume the worst until you are able to prove it. An analogy if you will: We were riding down the lake in one of our boats a couple of years back. My younger son was driving. I said something to him and he did not hear me so he cut the throttle back to reduce noise and the engine - a 35HP Evinrude - stopped suddenly. We thought that a bit odd but just thought it had stalled. It would not turn over when he tried to start it. We assumed the battery was low but it would not turn over on the rope start either. Engine appeared to have seized. We managed to get home and have a look at it. Pulled the lower unit and that freed the engine. Dismantled the lower unit - prop shaft - and learned that a part of the shifter had broken. I assume, that it stayed in place until he cut back on the throttle, at which point it fell into the gears and locked the lower unit. That stalled the engine. About $400 worth of parts as I did not spend the time to look for a used pinion gear. The one gear was damaged and it was expensive - over $200 for it alone. Apart from that, we used the opportunity to replace some of the seals and bearings and of course the broken shifter link. Could be something similar. Look for something that will prevent the engine from turning before assuming it is actually a seized engine. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:48 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Water pump? Timing chain? -Curt Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: aanlktimfhlhw2uafnllxfeoc_ktiycsqvx1u_ezfx...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand. It;s the engine I'm afraid. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
As I said, I missed several posts to this thread, so I'm probably repeating myself. Is the engine seized? Will it turn over when you crank it? If it turns, but won't catch, check for all the simple stuff first. Fuel ? Spark ? Could be as simple as a hunk of crud made its was to the fuel filter. Skip spark, it's a diesel, right. hee hee. If the engine sounds like it's turning, but not catching, have you checked the chains? Probably make a bit of a bang being chains when they let go, but when they, or belts go, the engine will often crank, but that's all it will do. If the engine seized while in motion, I would imagine some interesting things would have happened to the rear tires while going down the road. lol. Good luck, and as others have said, start with the simple stuff first, and don't right it off until you know the core cause of the problem. Ed 300E On 18 June 2010 11:44, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Don't assume the worst until you are able to prove it. An analogy if you will: We were riding down the lake in one of our boats a couple of years back. My younger son was driving. I said something to him and he did not hear me so he cut the throttle back to reduce noise and the engine - a 35HP Evinrude - stopped suddenly. We thought that a bit odd but just thought it had stalled. It would not turn over when he tried to start it. We assumed the battery was low but it would not turn over on the rope start either. Engine appeared to have seized. We managed to get home and have a look at it. Pulled the lower unit and that freed the engine. Dismantled the lower unit - prop shaft - and learned that a part of the shifter had broken. I assume, that it stayed in place until he cut back on the throttle, at which point it fell into the gears and locked the lower unit. That stalled the engine. About $400 worth of parts as I did not spend the time to look for a used pinion gear. The one gear was damaged and it was expensive - over $200 for it alone. Apart from that, we used the opportunity to replace some of the seals and bearings and of course the broken shifter link. Could be something similar. Look for something that will prevent the engine from turning before assuming it is actually a seized engine. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:48 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Water pump? Timing chain? -Curt Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Message-ID: aanlktimfhlhw2uafnllxfeoc_ktiycsqvx1u_ezfx...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand. It;s the engine I'm afraid. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of the road, she died. When I tried to start her it was as if the starter was locked. Didn't get time to mess with it yet. There was nothing leaking out, no James Bond smoke screen as it was losing power. What should I go after first? I'm going to check oil, see if it will turn over. It's not out of fuel fo sho... Bob R On Jun 17, 2010 6:41 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: Thought this was funny enough to pass on. EdB original link a href= http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html; http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html /a 32 mpg mercedes powered diesel f150 - $7500 (anderson) -- Date: 2010-06-15, 8:53PM EDT Reply to: sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org?subject=32%20mpg%20mercedes%20powered%20diesel%20f150%20-%20%247500%20(anderson)body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Findianapolis.craigslist.org%2Fcto%2F1794128919.html%0A [Errors when replying to ads?http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts ] -- What we have here is a 04 ford f150 4x4 that I put a Mercedes 5 cylinder 2.7 diesel in. the motor has about 25k on it so it has about 275k left to run. i did all the work myself. and can tell you anything that you'd like to know. It has the motor and the trans from a 03 dodge sprinter mounted with a divorced manual transfer case setup. the 4x4 works and I got around 20 running it around last winter. it will get around 32mpg per GPS on the highway, 22 city, again it's all how you drive it. all the functions of the ford work aside from the ac (it does not have a compressor but could be added for the right $$$) . The truck does have a salvage flood title as that is how I acquired the truck. it is not a powerhouse like a cummins but gets the mileage of a modern tdi. with 4x4. One of a kind. would be interested in trade for a nice, not rusted out powerstroke 95 and up or cummins or dmax. or CASH. Please post me a pick of your trade or intentions in your email. As you can imagine a lot of people are interested but have no money or trade. - Location: anderson - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests [image: image 1794128919-0][image: image 1794128919-1][image: image 1794128919-2] PostingID: 1794128919 -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
My first thought is clogged fuel filters, but the 'locked starter' bit is concerning. Dead starter or battery at the same time as a clogged fuel filter? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of the road, she died. When I tried to start her it was as if the starter was locked. Didn't get time to mess with it yet. There was nothing leaking out, no James Bond smoke screen as it was losing power. What should I go after first? I'm going to check oil, see if it will turn over. It's not out of fuel fo sho... Bob R On Jun 17, 2010 6:41 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: Thought this was funny enough to pass on. EdB original link a href= http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html; http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html /a 32 mpg mercedes powered diesel f150 - $7500 (anderson) -- Date: 2010-06-15, 8:53PM EDT Reply to: sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org?subject=32%20mpg%20mercedes%20power ed%20diesel%20f150%20-%20%247500%20(anderson)body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fin dianapolis.craigslist.org%2Fcto%2F1794128919.html%0A [Errors when replying to ads?http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts ] -- What we have here is a 04 ford f150 4x4 that I put a Mercedes 5 cylinder 2.7 diesel in. the motor has about 25k on it so it has about 275k left to run. i did all the work myself. and can tell you anything that you'd like to know. It has the motor and the trans from a 03 dodge sprinter mounted with a divorced manual transfer case setup. the 4x4 works and I got around 20 running it around last winter. it will get around 32mpg per GPS on the highway, 22 city, again it's all how you drive it. all the functions of the ford work aside from the ac (it does not have a compressor but could be added for the right $$$) . The truck does have a salvage flood title as that is how I acquired the truck. it is not a powerhouse like a cummins but gets the mileage of a modern tdi. with 4x4. One of a kind. would be interested in trade for a nice, not rusted out powerstroke 95 and up or cummins or dmax. or CASH. Please post me a pick of your trade or intentions in your email. As you can imagine a lot of people are interested but have no money or trade. - Location: anderson - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests [image: image 1794128919-0][image: image 1794128919-1][image: image 1794128919-2] PostingID: 1794128919 -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My first thought is clogged fuel filters, but the 'locked starter' bit is concerning. Dead starter or battery at the same time as a clogged fuel filter? I sure hope it isn't a seized engine at the same time as a seized engine. But that seems unlikely if the temp and oil pressure gauges were reading normally. If the starter failed to disengage, would you get 40 miles before it seized bad enough to stop the engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Did it make strange noises or just stop? One would think it the engine was seizing there might be some unusual noises. A friend had the engine oil pump give up in traffic on a bridge (in a 240D) and it essentially ruined the engine before he figured out what was happening and stopped but I don't think his engine actually seized. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My first thought is clogged fuel filters, but the 'locked starter' bit is concerning. Dead starter or battery at the same time as a clogged fuel filter? I sure hope it isn't a seized engine at the same time as a seized engine. But that seems unlikely if the temp and oil pressure gauges were reading normally. If the starter failed to disengage, would you get 40 miles before it seized bad enough to stop the engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
maybe the engine locked up, try turning it over with a breaker bar and see what it does. Bob Rentfro wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of the road, she died. When I tried to start her it was as if the starter was locked. Didn't get time to mess with it yet. There was nothing leaking out, no James Bond smoke screen as it was losing power. What should I go after first? I'm going to check oil, see if it will turn over. It's not out of fuel fo sho... Bob R On Jun 17, 2010 6:41 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: Thought this was funny enough to pass on. EdB original link a href= http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html; http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1794128919.html /a 32 mpg mercedes powered diesel f150 - $7500 (anderson) -- Date: 2010-06-15, 8:53PM EDT Reply to: sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org sale-wy9fq-1794128...@craigslist.org?subject=32%20mpg%20mercedes%20powered%20diesel%20f150%20-%20%247500%20(anderson)body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Findianapolis.craigslist.org%2Fcto%2F1794128919.html%0A [Errors when replying to ads?http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts ] -- What we have here is a 04 ford f150 4x4 that I put a Mercedes 5 cylinder 2.7 diesel in. the motor has about 25k on it so it has about 275k left to run. i did all the work myself. and can tell you anything that you'd like to know. It has the motor and the trans from a 03 dodge sprinter mounted with a divorced manual transfer case setup. the 4x4 works and I got around 20 running it around last winter. it will get around 32mpg per GPS on the highway, 22 city, again it's all how you drive it. all the functions of the ford work aside from the ac (it does not have a compressor but could be added for the right $$$) . The truck does have a salvage flood title as that is how I acquired the truck. it is not a powerhouse like a cummins but gets the mileage of a modern tdi. with 4x4. One of a kind. would be interested in trade for a nice, not rusted out powerstroke 95 and up or cummins or dmax. or CASH. Please post me a pick of your trade or intentions in your email. As you can imagine a lot of people are interested but have no money or trade. - Location: anderson - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests [image: image 1794128919-0][image: image 1794128919-1][image: image 1794128919-2] PostingID: 1794128919 -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket. On Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: maybe the engine locked up, try turning it over with a breaker bar and see what it does. Bob Rentfro wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley. Now it won't do that. Bob are My droid talks to text feature putting weird words sometimes On Jun 17, 2010 3:28 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket. On Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: maybe the engine l... Bob Rentfro wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old ... ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this was happening? You are going to have to remove the fan and put a 27mm socket on the crank and try it. If it does not do anything, its locked up. Bob Rentfro wrote: Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley. Now it won't do that. Bob are My droid talks to text feature putting weird words sometimes On Jun 17, 2010 3:28 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket. On Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: maybe the engine l... Bob Rentfro wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old ... ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2943 - Release Date: 06/17/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. On Jun 17, 2010 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this was happening? You are going to have to remove the fan and put a 27mm socket on the crank and try it. If it does not do anything, its locked up. Bob Rentfro wrote: Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley. Now it won't do th... For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2943 - Release Date: 06/17/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, ... http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archi... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
The good thing about Diesels is they will keep running as long as they are getting air and fuel. As far as it being locked up - if it had locked up when in gear you'd have noticed - it would have tried to slow you down *BIG* time. It likely would not have occurred slowly - an engine locking up generally will do so pretty quickly giving little warning - but the oil pressure and temperature would have would have moved away from Normal. You said you didn't check them but perhaps you glanced their way and didn't see anything strange so paid them no attention? Losing power? Could be a engine locking up - but I believe you'd have seen a rising temp if a bearing was seizing (BTDT) - and the battery would still turn it over unless it welded itself to the crank pretty quickly - requiring a bit of heat. When you were waiting for a ride to work you tried to restart it - did you notice the gauges being out of Normal at that point? They would still have had a pretty accurate reading at that point. The starter not disengaging as suggested sounds pretty good to me... Has the engine given any indication in the past that there might be a mechanical problem? Loud bearings (I know, hard to know on a diesel) ;-) running hot? Hard to start when hot (the bearings like to expand and squeeze the crank when hot, slowing the cranking speed)? Anything out of the ordinary? Good luck - I hope it's something silly. IMO it's not a locked engine - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. On Jun 17, 2010 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this was happening? You are going to have to remove the fan and put a 27mm socket on the crank and try it. If it does not do anything, its locked up. Bob Rentfro wrote: Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley. Now it won't do th... For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2943 - Release Date: 06/17/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, ... http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archi... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
The only thing out of the ordinary i noticed lately is over the last couple of weeks it seems like you was losing a little bit of power. I'm so ocd that i know i should be going a certain speed by a certain sign after getting on the freeway. Over the last 2 weeks or so, my speed have been slower when i got to those certain signs. My aggressive acceleration has always been the same ( read floored). It just suddenly lost power may go crazy noise and i never looked at the gauges when i tried to start it after pulling over. My bad. On Jun 17, 2010 4:04 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: The good thing about Diesels is they will keep running as long as they are getting air and fuel. As far as it being locked up - if it had locked up when in gear you'd have noticed - it would have tried to slow you down *BIG* time. It likely would not have occurred slowly - an engine locking up generally will do so pretty quickly giving little warning - but the oil pressure and temperature would have would have moved away from Normal. You said you didn't check them but perhaps you glanced their way and didn't see anything strange so paid them no attention? Losing power? Could be a engine locking up - but I believe you'd have seen a rising temp if a bearing was seizing (BTDT) - and the battery would still turn it over unless it welded itself to the crank pretty quickly - requiring a bit of heat. When you were waiting for a ride to work you tried to restart it - did you notice the gauges being out of Normal at that point? They would still have had a pretty accurate reading at that point. The starter not disengaging as suggested sounds pretty good to me... Has the engine given any indication in the past that there might be a mechanical problem? Loud bearings (I know, hard to know on a diesel) ;-) running hot? Hard to start when hot (the bearings like to expand and squeeze the crank when hot, slowing the cranking speed)? Anything out of the ordinary? Good luck - I hope it's something silly. IMO it's not a locked engine - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opt... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
---Original Message--- From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work Sent: 17 Jun '10 18:40 I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. Bob, Check for a seized accessory. A frozen alternator or waterpump (a/c or p/s pump too, I'm sure) coupled with a tight belt can stop the motor dead in its tracks just like you describe. The m103 is known for this when the alternator seizes. Had the same happen to a client with a '66 230sl a couple of months back. No warning, the car simply stalled at a traffic light and acted as if the motor were locked solid. Turned out to be a seized waterpump. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Could power steering pump, alternator or AC compressor seize in such a manner as to stall the engine. AC compressor and pulley on a '71 Chrysler did this to me at 75 MPH on I-80 in Iowa (or is it I-84?) on a Sunday afternoon in 1975. Suddenly, engine and everything quit; would not turn with starter, etc. 10-year-old son saw that belt tried to slip slightly on seized AC pulley when I tried starter; 'cut AC belt off with knife and drove 10 mi. to next town; new AC compressor, pulley, dryer next morning, and we were on the way again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this was happening? You are going to have to remove the fan and put a 27mm socket on the crank and try it. If it does not do anything, its locked up. Bob Rentfro wrote: Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley. Now it won't do that. Bob are My droid talks to text feature putting weird words sometimes On Jun 17, 2010 3:28 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket. On Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: maybe the engine l... Bob Rentfro wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old ... ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2943 - Release Date: 06/17/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I had a '69 220D engine act similarly a png time ago. It came out of a car that was in a garage fire. I drove it about 10k - 15k miles, then on the way to work one morning, it just acted like the throttle linkage came off, except that it died when I put it in neutral. Couldn't crank it at all. After sitting for about 20 minutes, it did start, had enough power to get the last 2 miles to work, then froze solid. The bearings were trashed. It had plenty of oil pressure, ans was not hot when it died. I attributed it to the fire. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of the road, she died. When I tried to start her it was as if the starter was locked. Didn't get time to mess with it yet. There was nothing leaking out, no James Bond smoke screen as it was losing power. What should I go after first? I'm going to check oil, see if it will turn over. It's not out of fuel fo sho... Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
When I spoke to my indy on the phone eariler he mentioned I may have wiped a bearing. On Jun 17, 2010 5:50 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I had a '69 220D engine act similarly a png time ago. It came out of a car that was in a garage fire. I drove it about 10k - 15k miles, then on the way to work one morning, it just acted like the throttle linkage came off, except that it died when I put it in neutral. Couldn't crank it at all. After sitting for about 20 minutes, it did start, had enough power to get the last 2 miles to work, then froze solid. The bearings were trashed. It had plenty of oil pressure, ans was not hot when it died. I attributed it to the fire. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: After driving 40 of th... -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.oki... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Did it make strange noises or just stop? One would think it the engine was seizing there might be some unusual noises. I was on the back of my brother's toilet-seat 90 when it seized. No unusual noises at all, it just started slowing down and then finally locked the rear wheel. Something is seized, probably. Let's hope it's not the engine proper! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
First thing you do whenever anything is 'odd' is to scan the gauges. Would have been good info to have now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a loss of compression, no locking up. Bob Rentfro wrote: I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
yes, that is possible as well although I would think the belt would be squeeling. WILTON wrote: Could power steering pump, alternator or AC compressor seize in such a manner as to stall the engine. AC compressor and pulley on a '71 Chrysler did this to me at 75 MPH on I-80 in Iowa (or is it I-84?) on a Sunday afternoon in 1975. Suddenly, engine and everything quit; would not turn with starter, etc. 10-year-old son saw that belt tried to slip slightly on seized AC pulley when I tried starter; 'cut AC belt off with knife and drove 10 mi. to next town; new AC compressor, pulley, dryer next morning, and we were on the way again. Wilton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a loss of compression, no locking up. Bob Rentfro wrote: I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Most likely. Shouldn't be too hard to find another engine --- On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
yep, you might be able to tear it down and rebuild it, but usually when the lock its best to just find a good used motor, or scrap the car. That would be a shame though. Bob Rentfro wrote: I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: yep, you might be able to tear it down and rebuild it, but usually when the lock its best to just find a good used motor, or scrap the car. That would be a shame though. Bob Rentfro wrote: I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the '80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D. What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns are too far away. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Park it in your front yard like Mao --- On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the '80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D. What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns are too far away. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
It does look nice. Mine will never rust like that, though. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:15 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Park it in your front yard like Mao --- On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the '80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D. What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns are too far away. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
Loosen the belt and see if the engine will turn. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a loss of compression, no locking up. Bob Rentfro wrote: I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
The belt on the alternator is loose enough that I can turn the alternator by hand. I cannot budge the engine. I'm sad. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Loosen the belt and see if the engine will turn. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP? Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a loss of compression, no locking up. Bob Rentfro wrote: I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just lost power and died the moment put it in neutral. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I'm betting/hoping it's a seized accessory. My first '78 300D had the AC compressor partially seize and the engine stalled while idling. It was hard to start since the AC clutch was still engaged, but it ran OK once it started and the ACC was turned off. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I have to decide where to draw the line The line may have been drawn, depending on how attached you are to it. How is the body and the interior besides the bad rear seatback? Most 300D's of similar age have tired front end components anyway. If you would be putting it in the shop for the engine and transmission RR, add that in as well. You may be able to find another 300D for the price of the engine, tranny and the RR. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon who really enjoyed the 3 '78 300D's also OCD about acceleration! (we should be at 65 MPH by the time we hit that bump hahaha! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:18:04 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: It does look nice. Mine will never rust like that, though. You can aid that process with a sprinkler and a little rock salt ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand. It;s the engine I'm afraid. Bob R On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
What's the body like, if it is good you may want to spend money but if the body is rough and has rust, shoot it and get another. Hendrik who is trying to work out he OK alcohol laws On Thu Jun 17 18:53 , Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com sent: The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it. It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at ONE with the crank forever. RIP. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
