Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed
Larry wrote: Are the 305/350 engines derivitives of the 283 that Chevy released in the mid 50s? I don't know. Most of GM's engines use pretty old pushrod technology, but they do seem to have improved it to a point where everything falls apart before the engine. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed
Originaly the 265 Cu/in V8. Very early ones had bad cranks, evolved in one of the most widly used engines in our time. They have been made up to 400 cu/in, and very stout! Pete -- Original message -- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry wrote: Are the 305/350 engines derivitives of the 283 that Chevy released in the mid 50s? I don't know. Most of GM's engines use pretty old pushrod technology, but they do seem to have improved it to a point where everything falls apart before the engine. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originaly the 265 Cu/in V8. Very early ones had bad cranks, evolved in one of the most widly used engines in our time. They have been made up to 400 cu/in, and very stout! So my dad's Chevy Kingswood wagon with '400' badges on the fenders had a small block? My sister had the same car with a 327. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed
What was the old joke, they upped the performance by boring them out and thus saving weight? hee hee Ed 300E On 13/02/2008, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originaly the 265 Cu/in V8. Very early ones had bad cranks, evolved in one of the most widly used engines in our time. They have been made up to 400 cu/in, and very stout! So my dad's Chevy Kingswood wagon with '400' badges on the fenders had a small block? My sister had the same car with a 327. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed
It seems than at Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:42:37 -0600, Donald wrote: Larry wrote: Are the 305/350 engines derivitives of the 283 that Chevy released in the mid 50s? I don't know. Most of GM's engines use pretty old pushrod technology, but they do seem to have improved it to a point where everything falls apart before the engine. Donald H. Snook Yes. All of the GM small-block engines are descendants of that engine. Somewhere along about 1990 they changed the rear crankshaft seal. I'm not sure what has broken compatibility since about 1995 'cause I don't have one - but things like the intake manifold, distributor, water pump, etc from a late '80 will bolt onto an 1955 engine. Obviously the crank and pistons are not the same 'cause the displacement isn't the same. -- Philip, with 4 of them, none stock. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed -
Same engine bored and/or stroked. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/12/08 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed - Hi Donald, Are the 305/350 engines derivitives of the 283 that Chevy released in the mid 50s? I always heard good things about that engine. As I wrote earlier, the 305 in my 78 Malibu was an awesome engine that was embarassed by its (multiple) autmatic transmissions. The dealer put 2 replacement Jasper ATs in under warranty (I'm *so* happy * bought the used car warranty!) and both failed early IMO - even though I maintained it as per the manual. When the AT was working properly it was an awesome car - very quiet, smooth and responsive. Of course, when compared to my 69 280S there was little difference in the feeling of having a proper ride. The MB did something I've only seen in MBs (all my MBs) - at about 80mph they seem to hunker down and the suspension become supple and firm at the same time. Expansion strips in the interstate disappear and wind noise even reduces. I guess it's the sweet spot - The Chevy's shortcomings were the interior trim which seemed to be made as cheap as humanly possible.Even things like the fasteners holding wiring and plumbing in place were cheap and as such failed to stay *tightly* connected. Little things like that turned me off the Chevy although I would like to try a mid 90s Impala SS, a new Impala, Ford Crown Vic or better yet, one of the Mustang Bullit specials. I predict some people will put them away for 20 or 30 years then put them up for auction at Barrett Jackson and make a bundle. Personally, I'd rather enjoy it. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges Alex C. wrote: So if the old small-block was so good, how come they dumped it and moved to the Vortec engine family for the trucks? Fuel economy and/or emissions concerns, or something else? The old small block was a workhorse, but the newer balanced engines were for superior for fuel injection, the use of and harmonic balancing. The newer engines also developed more power with better fuel economy. Now, the 350 that was fuel injected in 87 is an awesome engine. But, 1988 represented a watershed year for GM becuasue of the development of the newer engines. Until the design of the 3800 V6, the 307 (Y code) engine and the 305 (made by chevy) was, in my opinion the best engines GM made UNTIL the design of the 3800 V6. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 5:28 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 MB at speed -
Hi Donald, Are the 305/350 engines derivitives of the 283 that Chevy released in the mid 50s? I always heard good things about that engine. As I wrote earlier, the 305 in my 78 Malibu was an awesome engine that was embarassed by its (multiple) autmatic transmissions. The dealer put 2 replacement Jasper ATs in under warranty (I'm *so* happy * bought the used car warranty!) and both failed early IMO - even though I maintained it as per the manual. When the AT was working properly it was an awesome car - very quiet, smooth and responsive. Of course, when compared to my 69 280S there was little difference in the feeling of having a proper ride. The MB did something I've only seen in MBs (all my MBs) - at about 80mph they seem to hunker down and the suspension become supple and firm at the same time. Expansion strips in the interstate disappear and wind noise even reduces. I guess it's the sweet spot - The Chevy's shortcomings were the interior trim which seemed to be made as cheap as humanly possible.Even things like the fasteners holding wiring and plumbing in place were cheap and as such failed to stay *tightly* connected. Little things like that turned me off the Chevy although I would like to try a mid 90s Impala SS, a new Impala, Ford Crown Vic or better yet, one of the Mustang Bullit specials. I predict some people will put them away for 20 or 30 years then put them up for auction at Barrett Jackson and make a bundle. Personally, I'd rather enjoy it. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHevy 305/350 WAS- High mileage badges Alex C. wrote: So if the old small-block was so good, how come they dumped it and moved to the Vortec engine family for the trucks? Fuel economy and/or emissions concerns, or something else? The old small block was a workhorse, but the newer balanced engines were for superior for fuel injection, the use of and harmonic balancing. The newer engines also developed more power with better fuel economy. Now, the 350 that was fuel injected in 87 is an awesome engine. But, 1988 represented a watershed year for GM becuasue of the development of the newer engines. Until the design of the 3800 V6, the 307 (Y code) engine and the 305 (made by chevy) was, in my opinion the best engines GM made UNTIL the design of the 3800 V6. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
