Re: [MBZ] Electric transmission pole grounding

2015-05-21 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Those conductors ground the lightening arrester wire that runs along  
the top of the poles.  If enough of them are missing you can get power  
surges when lightening hits the main conductors.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Electric transmission pole grounding

2015-05-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The copper grounding conductor that runs the length of a utility pole isn’t 
connected to anything on the pole as far as live conductors but it is connected 
to the static wire (the line across the tops of the poles that doesn’t carry 
current.)

The grounding conductor is just that - it provides a path to ground on each 
pole from the static wire to Earth ground.  The static wire bleeds off 
lightning and voltage that can be induced from it that would otherwise build up 
on the main conductors and damage them or the connected systems.

It’s remotely possible that under the right (wrong for you) conditions a charge 
could build up on a transmission line or a secondary service drop (the line 
between the transformer on the pole and your service entrance) and affect the 
power coming into your home.  Because the lines are grounded regularly 
throughout the system I’m not sure I would be too concerned.  Of course you 
should make sure your grounding is correctly done and in good working order as 
well, as by providing a ground in your part of the system you’re less likely to 
encounter a problem.

I’m not sure I know what to tell you, other than I would document the missing 
ground wires as often as they disappear and contact your insurance agent so 
they know you have some potential exposure for a loss.

Dan



 On May 21, 2015, at 7:22 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Dan, I understand the importance of grounding for electrical systems in 
 general, residential grounding, etc., but how important are the grounding 
 conductors on the sides of transmission line poles along my residential 
 street?  I ask because nearly every one I see in my neighborhood is missing - 
 stolen, cut off at the ground and as high as a thief can reach and likely 
 sold as scrap copper.  I've called in the missing conductors several time to 
 the power company, but they get stolen nearly as fast as the power company 
 can replace them.  'Had not noticed for several years, but I noticed 
 yesterday that none of the poles across front and side of my lot has a 
 complete grounding conductor.  Power co. does not seem to be concerned - seem 
 to have given up to the thieves.  How important are these conductors?  I 
 think that, under the right/wrong set of conditions they could be extremely 
 important.  How 'bout it?
 
 Wilton  
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[MBZ] Electric transmission pole grounding

2015-05-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Dan, I understand the importance of grounding for electrical systems in 
general, residential grounding, etc., but how important are the grounding 
conductors on the sides of transmission line poles along my residential street? 
 I ask because nearly every one I see in my neighborhood is missing - stolen, 
cut off at the ground and as high as a thief can reach and likely sold as scrap 
copper.  I've called in the missing conductors several time to the power 
company, but they get stolen nearly as fast as the power company can replace 
them.  'Had not noticed for several years, but I noticed yesterday that none of 
the poles across front and side of my lot has a complete grounding conductor.  
Power co. does not seem to be concerned - seem to have given up to the thieves. 
 How important are these conductors?  I think that, under the right/wrong set 
of conditions they could be extremely important.  How 'bout it?

Wilton  
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Re: [MBZ] Electric transmission pole grounding

2015-05-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yeah, lightening arrester - I had forgotten that.  Thanks.

Wilton

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Those conductors ground the lightening arrester wire that runs along  
the top of the poles.  If enough of them are missing you can get power  
surges when lightening hits the main conductors.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Electric transmission pole grounding

2015-05-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Well then.. if that pole ground wire is definately NOT connected into the
grid ground, how about wiring a high energy fence charger to that ground
wire.. with a disconnect section hidden just above the actual ground?

Thus.. when the thieves come to steal the copper wire.. they get a few
thousand volts of love reward upon touching the ground wire they were going
to steal..

Use that body connection to be the switch that starts cameras rolling
[mounted high on the pole, out of access range] with remote WIFI capacity
to video recorder..

Sort of a back alley bait car .. If you will..

Just a thought.. All the wires on the poles on the house in town have been
stolen now twice in the past 14 months.. so thieves apparently learn ...

Time to play a good game of catch a thief.

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:05 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Yeah, lightening arrester - I had forgotten that.  Thanks.

 Wilton

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  Those conductors ground the lightening arrester wire that runs along  the
 top of the poles.  If enough of them are missing you can get power  surges
 when lightening hits the main conductors.

 Peter

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