Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL

2006-07-17 Thread Loren Faeth

You lead a charmed life, indeed!




I HOPE the KLIMA is your problem. It was NEVER a problem on any of my
cars EVER.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL

2006-07-15 Thread Marshall Booth

Harry Watkins wrote:
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To: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL



Thanks Marshall

I started in the manual where it said clutch does not engage.  First was
lo pres sw (S31), then voltage to KLIMA(N6), then control voltage for comp
from S31 to N6, then the clutch, then voltage and resistance for the RPM
sensor and RPM signal from EDS.  When that passed the FSM said replace N6.

BTW, when I did the clutch and clutch wiring test, the AC engaged and
started cooling the car, I shut if off while it was still operating.


If you jump pins 5 and 7 of the KLIMA socket and the compressor clutch 
engages, then the compressor and clutch are FINE. If it cools while th3 
pins are jumped, then the refrigerant system is charged and is working. 
That leaves the serpentine belt saving circuit. That includes the 
pressure, temperature, engine and compressor speed sensors and the KLIMA 
relay that integrates the information and turns the clutch on and off. 
Each of the elements must be tested.


Marshall
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190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)




[MBZ] Fw: Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL

2006-07-14 Thread Harry Watkins

- Original Message - 
From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL


 Thanks Marshall

 I started in the manual where it said clutch does not engage.  First was
 lo pres sw (S31), then voltage to KLIMA(N6), then control voltage for comp
 from S31 to N6, then the clutch, then voltage and resistance for the RPM
 sensor and RPM signal from EDS.  When that passed the FSM said replace N6.

 BTW, when I did the clutch and clutch wiring test, the AC engaged and
 started cooling the car, I shut if off while it was still operating.

 I have my fingers crossed because I have failed to find a source for what
 the normal hi and lo pressure should be.  I have a request for that
 information on three websites and still looking.  I suspect mine is
 overcharged but have no idea what it should be.

 Any help on that from your files?

 Thanks

 Harry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL


  Harry Watkins wrote:
   Thanks Make, that makes me feel better because it means I'll be
 replacing a
   part that Cathey said could cause my problem.  We should know
tomorrow.
 
  Based on MY calculations, the KLIMA relay is the problem less than 10%
  of the time - but it's easy to replace!! There are about 11 other
  potential causes.
 
  Marshall
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Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
 der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84
  190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
 






Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I have my fingers crossed because I have failed to find a source for 
what

the normal hi and lo pressure should be.  I have a request for that
information on three websites and still looking.  I suspect mine is
overcharged but have no idea what it should be.


With R134a pressures are higher than with R12.  But if it's much over
300 PSI on the high side or 40 on the low I'd guess something is wrong.

-- Jim