[MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like that 
stuff used to be good

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Re: [MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I have just been slammed at both work and home the last few days, which has 
precluded me from any lengthy responses to your questions.  Before I pass out 
for the night, I'll tell you what I think:

You need both a polisher and a random orbital buffer. Harbor Freight stuff 
works fine for me and has served me well so far. dumping several hundred $$ 
into these tools that you might use a few times a year is a big waste in my 
opinion.   You also need a collection of pads and bonnets depending on the 
materials you choose and a spur for cleaning pads.  You'll spend between 
$150-$200 on compounds and chemical, however, you should have plenty left for 
future sessions, so the costs will be spread out over a number of vehicles.

You saw the highly oxidized finish on the S500, and the results I got after 
probably 20 hours of work. If you're willing to dig into the finish on your 
car, that's the sort of results that you can expect - BUT - you can't cut 
corners, half-ass it, or skip steps.

So let's start after you have wiped the finish down with some clean towels and 
IPA cut 50-50 with distilled water:

Step 1.) Ardex 1000 Plus applied using 1-1/2 wool pad on a 7 polisher. As 
with any detailing work, start from the top and work down. I like to divide the 
panels in halves and make sure I overlap. Work in areas no larger than 2 x 2. 
Use plenty of pressure and lighten up as the Ardex flashes off. When you're 
done with a panel wipe it down using a clean towel and IPA.

Step 2.) Ardex 1500 Plus applied using a Meguire's maroon wool pad and the same 
7 polisher. Use the same approach as Step 1. You should see the haze start to 
disappear at this point.

Step 3.) Now you're going to change over to the RA buffer with a yellow foam 
cutting pad and Meguire's M105 Ultra Cut compound. Continue with the same 
techniques as previously used.

Step 4.) Again with the RA using a black finishing pad and some Meguire's M205 
Finishing Polish.

Step 5.) Back to the polisher with a 3M Perfect-It blue polishing pad and 3M 
Perfect-It Ultrafine Polish.

Step 6.) Finish it up with some 3M Show Car Wax or my current favorite, 
Collinite 845 Insulator Wax.

This is for a really severe finish. You can start down the line a step or two 
if you think the finish isn't that bad and backtrack if you don't get the 
desired results.

Dan




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On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like that 
 stuff used to be good
 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
I've seen folks buff out a car with 3M Imperial Machine Glaze.  What is
that best for?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I have just been slammed at both work and home the last few days, which
 has precluded me from any lengthy responses to your questions.  Before I
 pass out for the night, I'll tell you what I think:

 You need both a polisher and a random orbital buffer. Harbor Freight stuff
 works fine for me and has served me well so far. dumping several hundred $$
 into these tools that you might use a few times a year is a big waste in my
 opinion.   You also need a collection of pads and bonnets depending on the
 materials you choose and a spur for cleaning pads.  You'll spend between
 $150-$200 on compounds and chemical, however, you should have plenty left
 for future sessions, so the costs will be spread out over a number of
 vehicles.

 You saw the highly oxidized finish on the S500, and the results I got
 after probably 20 hours of work. If you're willing to dig into the finish
 on your car, that's the sort of results that you can expect - BUT - you
 can't cut corners, half-ass it, or skip steps.

 So let's start after you have wiped the finish down with some clean towels
 and IPA cut 50-50 with distilled water:

 Step 1.) Ardex 1000 Plus applied using 1-1/2 wool pad on a 7 polisher.
 As with any detailing work, start from the top and work down. I like to
 divide the panels in halves and make sure I overlap. Work in areas no
 larger than 2 x 2. Use plenty of pressure and lighten up as the Ardex
 flashes off. When you're done with a panel wipe it down using a clean towel
 and IPA.

 Step 2.) Ardex 1500 Plus applied using a Meguire's maroon wool pad and the
 same 7 polisher. Use the same approach as Step 1. You should see the haze
 start to disappear at this point.

 Step 3.) Now you're going to change over to the RA buffer with a yellow
 foam cutting pad and Meguire's M105 Ultra Cut compound. Continue with the
 same techniques as previously used.

 Step 4.) Again with the RA using a black finishing pad and some Meguire's
 M205 Finishing Polish.

 Step 5.) Back to the polisher with a 3M Perfect-It blue polishing pad and
 3M Perfect-It Ultrafine Polish.

 Step 6.) Finish it up with some 3M Show Car Wax or my current favorite,
 Collinite 845 Insulator Wax.

 This is for a really severe finish. You can start down the line a step or
 two if you think the finish isn't that bad and backtrack if you don't get
 the desired results.

 Dan




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 wrote:

  I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like
 that stuff used to be good
 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Rich Thomas
You don't drink the IPA?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

I have just been slammed at both work and home the last few days, which has 
precluded me from any lengthy responses to your questions.  Before I pass out 
for the night, I'll tell you what I think:

You need both a polisher and a random orbital buffer. Harbor Freight stuff 
works fine for me and has served me well so far. dumping several hundred $$ 
into these tools that you might use a few times a year is a big waste in my 
opinion.   You also need a collection of pads and bonnets depending on the 
materials you choose and a spur for cleaning pads.  You'll spend between 
$150-$200 on compounds and chemical, however, you should have plenty left for 
future sessions, so the costs will be spread out over a number of vehicles.

You saw the highly oxidized finish on the S500, and the results I got after 
probably 20 hours of work. If you're willing to dig into the finish on your 
car, that's the sort of results that you can expect - BUT - you can't cut 
corners, half-ass it, or skip steps.

So let's start after you have wiped the finish down with some clean towels and 
IPA cut 50-50 with distilled water:

Step 1.) Ardex 1000 Plus applied using 1-1/2 wool pad on a 7 polisher. As 
with any detailing work, start from the top and work down. I like to divide the 
panels in halves and make sure I overlap. Work in areas no larger than 2 x 2. 
Use plenty of pressure and lighten up as the Ardex flashes off. When you're 
done with a panel wipe it down using a clean towel and IPA.

Step 2.) Ardex 1500 Plus applied using a Meguire's maroon wool pad and the same 
7 polisher. Use the same approach as Step 1. You should see the haze start to 
disappear at this point.

Step 3.) Now you're going to change over to the RA buffer with a yellow foam 
cutting pad and Meguire's M105 Ultra Cut compound. Continue with the same 
techniques as previously used.

Step 4.) Again with the RA using a black finishing pad and some Meguire's M205 
Finishing Polish.

Step 5.) Back to the polisher with a 3M Perfect-It blue polishing pad and 3M 
Perfect-It Ultrafine Polish.

Step 6.) Finish it up with some 3M Show Car Wax or my current favorite, 
Collinite 845 Insulator Wax.

This is for a really severe finish. You can start down the line a step or two 
if you think the finish isn't that bad and backtrack if you don't get the 
desired results.

Dan




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On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like that 
 stuff used to be good
 
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