Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Could be useful --FT Sent from iFōn > On Oct 7, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/866118097938673/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Perfect for Mrs. Kleb for hauling her TastyKakes or whatever they are. -D > On Oct 7, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/866118097938673/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] I think I need to try to pick this up for a grand or less for parts, it has the seat I need for that coupe I just bought
That's the rare factory performance model, very few produced, highly-desirable --FT On 11/21/22 9:04 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I like the cold air intake in the right fender. Nice touch with the hood stack, along with the teal valve cover. -D On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:01 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1174903963115989/?mibextid=6ojiHh Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Passenger seat, yes it is the correct color Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 21, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > Which seat? Is it the correct color? > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 9:02 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1174903963115989/?mibextid=6ojiHh >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need to try to pick this up for a grand or less for parts, it has the seat I need for that coupe I just bought
I like the cold air intake in the right fender. Nice touch with the hood stack, along with the teal valve cover. -D > On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:01 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1174903963115989/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need to try to pick this up for a grand or less for parts, it has the seat I need for that coupe I just bought
Which seat? Is it the correct color? On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 9:02 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1174903963115989/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
Some of those "small items" he mentions are actually a pretty big deal if you want to restore this car properly. Cracks in the dash, for example. One speed blower. On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can buy it from Hoovie in a few months for $5k when he gets tired of it > > --FT > > On 5/19/21 4:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > Never had one before > > > > https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > . > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
You can buy it from Hoovie in a few months for $5k when he gets tired of it --FT On 5/19/21 4:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Never had one before https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com . -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
A few years ago my dad had one and sold it, I think he got about $3500. Had non-original wrong color seats, but was otherwise solid with no rust. This guy paid way too much, but he makes a good point, these are overall under valued. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 19, 2021 4:59:26 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > Never had one before > > https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
First MB that i drove to any extent. Loved that 4.5 Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, May 19, 2021, 4:59 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Never had one before > > https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
He thinks highly of anything pre-W140 Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > My recollection is that Pierre thinks highly of them. > > > >> On 19/05/2021 3:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Never had one before >> >> https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
My recollection is that Pierre thinks highly of them. On 19/05/2021 3:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Never had one before https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need a 108 at Okie acres
Those are too high class for Oklahoma! Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2021, at 4:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Never had one before > > https://youtu.be/UY6uKaehDyw > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nor are we... On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But I'm not entirely sure why > > https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-top-speed-of-a-mercedes- > unimogs-super-crawler-gear-1797869370 > > --R > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But I'm not entirely sure why https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-top-speed-of-a-mercedes-unimogs-super-crawler-gear-1797869370 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On their facebook posting the other day --R On 6/30/13 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. And -that- said, why not just use a compass and gyroscope? You've got initial location, speed, direction, seems like you could figure out elevation changes. Of course if you always know where you are then the GPS is just a check anyway. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Tim Crone wrote: That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Bingo! GPS and sun position are both line of sight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. Jaime On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
I always know where I am, sometimes just not in relation to some other place --R (wherever you go, there you are!) On 7/1/13 11:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. Jaime On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
--R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: --R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! You never know what it might be attached to... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
That's right; that's good DR'ing - ded reckoning; gives you Probable Position (PP); add a sun line to it and you get a Most Probable Position (MP - a little better than just DR), but still not a Fix (known position). Cross a sun line with a bearing from another object of known location (star or earth-bound object) and one can get a Fix (know position). Course, in an earth-bound vehicle, one can usually look out the window at a known object/address and get a Fix - sometimes not possible if ya don't recognize what you're seeing. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Yep; gyro makes course a little more accurate. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. And -that- said, why not just use a compass and gyroscope? You've got initial location, speed, direction, seems like you could figure out elevation changes. Of course if you always know where you are then the GPS is just a check anyway. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Course, in an earth-bound vehicle, one can usually look out the window at a known object/address and get a Fix - sometimes not possible if ya don't recognize what you're seeing. ;) Hence the fun of http://geoguessr.com/ ... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:06:47 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. PND? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
PND = Personal Navigation Device? OK Don, whose PND in the Cessna brought us from 120 miles out to ringt over the center of the home runway - we were impressed, given that it is one of the least expensive available. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. PND? Craig -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I think I need this
If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, I MEANT dead reckoning (DR). It really comes from deduction reckoning and should be ded reckoning, but everybody calls it dead, and, of course, it nearly is with all of the equipment these days carrying a running fix. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
'Can't get site to open. 'Wonder if I can find the app? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just downloaded sun surveyor lite (free), one of 22 apps -others up to $20, etc. Shows position of sun based on PP (present position). Easy for it to do inverse based on possible position - info since last fix (known position). Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this Well, I MEANT dead reckoning (DR). It really comes from deduction reckoning and should be ded reckoning, but everybody calls it dead, and, of course, it nearly is with all of the equipment these days carrying a running fix. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Um... no. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
