Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter
Check battery connections, battery, and starter. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:19 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wilton strickland wrote: I missed symptoms. What does it do now - automatically, that is? Original Post: I'm looking at a car in Atlanta that one day just decided it didn't want to start. When the key is turned nothing happens, no noises, etc. The owner tried starting it in neutral, and has cranked the engine over by hand. Now: I'm going to ask the guy to see if the lights dim when he tries to start it. If they don't the starter is probably not the problem and 'jumping' the starter might work. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
Lights stay bright = Electrical problem before the starter windings. Lights go very dim = Bad Connection, Starter is cooked, MOTOR IS SEIZED. Or weak battery Look before you jump... Pete -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
I'm looking at a car in Atlanta that one day just decided it didn't want to start. When the key is turned nothing happens, no noises, etc. The owner tried starting it in neutral, and has cranked the engine over by hand. What do you guys think is the problem? If I could make arrangements for a trailer I wouldn't be asking this, but I can't find someone with a truck that can pull a car trailer. I'm willing to take a chance that I can start it by either pull starting it or manually 'jumping' the starter. I know that there is a way to engage the starter by fiddling under the hood, but I'm not sure what needs to be done. I believe it involves the terminal block underneath the battery (on the W116 at least). Do I just need to apply 12V to the solenoid on the starter? How much current does it need to handle (ie, how big of a wire)? Is there a place on the rear of my W124 where I can safely attach a tow strap? Just for pull starting of course! Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
Find out what's wrong -- if the starter is locked up, jumpering it won't help! You short between the small wire and battery connection on the solenoid. Not too bad on a NA 61x, but hard to reach on the turbo models and impossible on a 60x. the starter it buried. You can jump it at the wire terminals over on the passenger side on a W123, but I've never done it. You have a tow hook on the rear somewhere on the W124. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
Peter Frederick wrote: Find out what's wrong -- if the starter is locked up, jumpering it won't help! I don't think the guy is willing to diagnose it much. If the starter was locked up, when going to start the car any lights that are on would dim correct? If it is an electrical problem elsewhere nothing would happen? That should be a pretty quick and straightforward test. You short between the small wire and battery connection on the solenoid. Not too bad on a NA 61x, but hard to reach on the turbo models and impossible on a 60x. the starter it buried. You can jump it at the wire terminals over on the passenger side on a W123, but I've never done it. Good info :) I might be able to look at my SD and see if I can't rig something for that terminal block (I think its under the battery). You have a tow hook on the rear somewhere on the W124. Hooray! :) I was really not looking forward to driving my pickup (waaay to small to tow a car) for 10 hours in a day. Much more comfy and cheaper to take the 2.5T Thanks for the info! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
My histroy says, Lights stay bright = Eledctrical problem before the starter windings. Lights go very dim = Bad Connection, Starter is cooked, MOTOR IS SIEZED. Look before you jump... Pete -- Original message -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Frederick wrote: Find out what's wrong -- if the starter is locked up, jumpering it won't help! I don't think the guy is willing to diagnose it much. If the starter was locked up, when going to start the car any lights that are on would dim correct? If it is an electrical problem elsewhere nothing would happen? That should be a pretty quick and straightforward test. You short between the small wire and battery connection on the solenoid. Not too bad on a NA 61x, but hard to reach on the turbo models and impossible on a 60x. the starter it buried. You can jump it at the wire terminals over on the passenger side on a W123, but I've never done it. Good info :) I might be able to look at my SD and see if I can't rig something for that terminal block (I think its under the battery). You have a tow hook on the rear somewhere on the W124. Hooray! :) I was really not looking forward to driving my pickup (waaay to small to tow a car) for 10 hours in a day. Much more comfy and cheaper to take the 2.5T Thanks for the info! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
Peter said You can jump it at the wire terminals over on the passenger side on a W123, but I've never done it. When I had my 300TD and before that the 240D, I hard wired in a remote start switch to those wire terminals. Worked like a champ. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Manually engaging starter
I missed symptoms. What does it do now - automatically, that is? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter
wilton strickland wrote: I missed symptoms. What does it do now - automatically, that is? Original Post: I'm looking at a car in Atlanta that one day just decided it didn't want to start. When the key is turned nothing happens, no noises, etc. The owner tried starting it in neutral, and has cranked the engine over by hand. Now: I'm going to ask the guy to see if the lights dim when he tries to start it. If they don't the starter is probably not the problem and 'jumping' the starter might work. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Manually engaging starter
Has anybody tried banking on the starter with a stick, etc., while turning the key? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter
wilton strickland wrote: Has anybody tried banking on the starter with a stick, etc., while turning the key? I'm in Starkville, MS and the car is in Atlanta, GA... I haven't done any banging, but not sure of the current owner has. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manually engaging starter on W116 300SD
You short between the small wire and battery connection on the solenoid. Not too bad on a NA 61x, but hard to reach on the turbo models and impossible on a 60x. the starter it buried. On diesels you can jump-start from the GP relay control connector. Jumper pins 1 or 2 to the fuse screw, whichever one it is that does it. Right out there in front on the fender. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
