Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
4Matic isn't a necessity here, but I'm wondering if it would be a liability? 
Any issues with 4Matic on these?

Dan

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 On July 17, 2015 at 5:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Guess it would help to include the link:
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html
 
 2002 is the last/best year for the W210.
 S210 was made in small quantity for 2003 model year. 
 The facelifted 2000-2003 models are all about the same though. 
 If you want to talk safety, BAC became standard in 98 or 99, 
 ESP in 2000.
 Chassis is lowered an inch or more from the 1996-1999 cars, so
 that is a small advantage to my 1999 in Michigan winters  rough
 roads and a small advantage to the newer 210s on clear pavement.  
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That is the transmission with the really soft shifts

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On 7/17/15 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Guess it would help to include the link:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html 
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html

Dan



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Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.

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Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….

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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No they are very reliable 

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 4Matic isn't a necessity here, but I'm wondering if it would be a liability? 
 Any issues with 4Matic on these?
 
 Dan
 
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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On July 17, 2015 at 5:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Guess it would help to include the link:
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html
 
 2002 is the last/best year for the W210.
 S210 was made in small quantity for 2003 model year. 
 The facelifted 2000-2003 models are all about the same though. 
 If you want to talk safety, BAC became standard in 98 or 99, 
 ESP in 2000.
 Chassis is lowered an inch or more from the 1996-1999 cars, so
 that is a small advantage to my 1999 in Michigan winters  rough
 roads and a small advantage to the newer 210s on clear pavement.  
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That one looks decent. I think 27mpg might be optimistic in a 4matic though but 
maybe possible. It appears to be well optioned though but not really sure you 
need 4matic and heated seats in Florida 

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 Guess it would help to include the link:
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html
 
 Dan 
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.
 
 rim shot
 
 Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Guess it would help to include the link:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html 
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html

Dan 


 On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.
 
 rim shot
 
 Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 17, 2015 at 5:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Guess it would help to include the link:
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html 

2002 is the last/best year for the W210.
S210 was made in small quantity for 2003 model year. 
The facelifted 2000-2003 models are all about the same though. 
If you want to talk safety, BAC became standard in 98 or 99, 
ESP in 2000.
Chassis is lowered an inch or more from the 1996-1999 cars, so
that is a small advantage to my 1999 in Michigan winters  rough
roads and a small advantage to the newer 210s on clear pavement.  

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Early 4-matics had problems according to someone on the list.
Daughter has 2006 4-matic, 175K, and no problems.
Gerry

 That is the transmission with the really soft shifts
 
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 On 7/17/15 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
  Guess it would help to include the link:
 
  http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html 
  http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5112939376.html
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.
 
  rim shot
 
  Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….
 
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Early 4-matics had problems according to someone on the list.
Daughter has 2006 4-matic, 175K, and no problems.


Using the existing brakes makes for a much more reliable system
than the electronically variable fluid coupled limited slip
differentials.

The W124 system was complex and needed frequent repair.

The W210 system consisted of three free spool differentials
instead of the usual one free spool found in a 2wd car.
In normal driving, the traction loss lamp starts blinking and the
back end gets a bit 'happy', without any detectable attempt on the
car's part to control the spinning rear wheels. Then I back off the
throttle and things go back to normal.

The one time I got exasperated enough at the stuck car to floor it
in the snow, the electronics took control of the throttle and braked
the spinning wheels. I still didn't go anywhere, the underlying problem
was that the snow packed in front of and under the car outweighed the
car. Took me a couple of hours to dig it out and get it back in its
parking spot. This is what happens when you try to drive the car
with 15-18 of snow in the driveway and 'all season' tires, it only goes
about 50'.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

2015-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.

rim shot

Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….

Dan
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