Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
Curt wrote: Who was saying their wife wanted a Charger or 300? They seem like okay cars if you're into gun slits for windows but the advice I'll give is to go for the v8. A friend had a 300 for a rental and it was absolutely gutless. They claim the 2.7l v6 is 190hp but I suspect thats at 5000 rpm or some other crazy number. Its also got that stupid progressive throttle so it feels like it runs out of juice in the high end... Wait, I remember now this is Mrs. Snook isn't it? Has some of his car behavior rubbed off on her? I though the Expedition was a keeper forever... Yes, it was my wife. She loves the Expedition, but she has started traveling more for work and really hates the 16 mpg. Now, what I am about to say may shock many of you. I actually argued for her to keep the Expedition instead of getting another car. I know it sounds crazy. But, I remembered what a lot of people on here (and other places) had said about getting another car just to get better fuel mileage. It doesn't make sense. She has driven the Expedition for 3 years now and she still really likes it. But, she has decided that the smart thing to do when she has to go out of town is to DRIVE MY CAR! That really is okay with me because its not that often and its not that much of a sacrifice for me. The Expedition is a nice vehicle. I think driving my car some and the idea of getting better mileage planted a seed in her mind. Our realtor has a Dodge Charger (with the Hemi and the cool black graphics for the Daytona R/T package. She started really admiring it and thinks she really likes the Chargers and the 300. As far as the 300 goes, there is actually a third engine option. They have a larger V6. You are right the 2.7 is a complete dog. But, they have a 3.5 that really is pretty strong. I drove a friends Magnum wagon with the 3.5 and it has plenty of power. I think the Magnum is a 300 with the wagon rear end added on. I don't know if she is really serious. I will try to talk her out of it, but you know what they say: Happy Wife = Happy Life! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
Donald Snook wrote: Yes, it was my wife. She loves the Expedition, but she has started traveling more for work and really hates the 16 mpg. The 2011 V6 Mustang gets my attention with 31 EPA MPG on the HWY. (the manual tranny is rated 29mpg, and there should only be about a 20rpm difference at 60 mph in 6th gear, what's up with that?) Find out how much gas she burned in the last year. Now cut that in half. How many kilobucks are you willing to spend to achieve that savings? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: As far as the 300 goes, there is actually a third engine option. They have a larger V6. You are right the 2.7 is a complete dog. But, they have a 3.5 that really is pretty strong. I totally agree with the Snookman here. I can't say anything either way about the reliability of the Chrysler 3.5 V6 (although they've been making it for quite a while, since the cab-forward Concorde/Intrepid days, so you'd think they'd have worked out the bugs by now), but as for power it's got plenty. I remember thinking when I test-drove a Charger how much it felt like a 300E in terms of power delivery and controls. I believe it is rated at nearly 30 mpg highway, too, thanks to a tall rear end. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
Based on the fueleconomy.gov numbers I'd go for the 5.7l v8 if I were getting a charger, highway numbers are the same between the 2.7 and the 5.7, around town suffers 2mpg... If I were looking for that size car though I'd consider a Malibu or Impala. I had a Malibu for a rental some time ago and was well pleased with the power and fuel economy. The Fusion is also a fairly nice car. In any case you're looking at nearly 10mpg better on the highway than the Expedition which is enough that I don't think it'd take forever to pay off the difference, especially if you plan to buy and hold... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:35:33 -0500 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger Message-ID: a0121bfa28702c4fa69fc5d9ceb56d08a14d967...@mtsqhexc2.mtsqh.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt wrote: Who was saying their wife wanted a Charger or 300? They seem like okay cars if you're into gun slits for windows but the advice I'll give is to go for the v8. A friend had a 300 for a rental and it was absolutely gutless. They claim the 2.7l v6 is 190hp but I suspect thats at 5000 rpm or some other crazy number. Its also got that stupid progressive throttle so it feels like it runs out of juice in the high end... Wait, I remember now this is Mrs. Snook isn't it? Has some of his car behavior rubbed off on her? I though the Expedition was a keeper forever... Yes, it was my wife. She loves the Expedition, but she has started traveling more for work and really hates the 16 mpg. Now, what I am about to say may shock many of you. I actually argued for her to keep the Expedition instead of getting another car. I know it sounds crazy. But, I remembered what a lot of people on here (and other places) had said about getting another car just to get better fuel mileage. It doesn't make sense. She has driven the Expedition for 3 years now and she still really likes it. But, she has decided that the smart thing to do when she has to go out of town is to DRIVE MY CAR! That really is okay with me because its not that often and its not that much of a sacrifice for me. The Expedition is a nice vehicle. I think driving my car some and the idea of getting better mileage planted a seed in her mind. Our realtor has a Dodge Charger (with the Hemi and the cool black graphics for the Daytona R/T package. She started really admiring it and thinks she really likes the Chargers and the 300. As far as the 300 goes, there is actually a third engine option. They have a larger V6. You are right the 2.7 is a complete dog. But, they have a 3.5 that really is pretty strong. I drove a friends Magnum wagon with the 3.5 and it has plenty of power. I think the Magnum is a 300 with the wagon rear end added on. I don't know if she is really serious. I will try to talk her out of it, but you know what they say: Happy Wife = Happy Life! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
Drive a Sonta, very good value there is this size car. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2010 10:07:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger Based on the fueleconomy.gov numbers I'd go for the 5.7l v8 if I were getting a charger, highway numbers are the same between the 2.7 and the 5.7, around town suffers 2mpg... If I were looking for that size car though I'd consider a Malibu or Impala. I had a Malibu for a rental some time ago and was well pleased with the power and fuel economy. The Fusion is also a fairly nice car. In any case you're looking at nearly 10mpg better on the highway than the Expedition which is enough that I don't think it'd take forever to pay off the difference, especially if you plan to buy and hold... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:35:33 -0500 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger Message-ID: a0121bfa28702c4fa69fc5d9ceb56d08a14d967...@mtsqhexc2.mtsqh.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt wrote: Who was saying their wife wanted a Charger or 300? They seem like okay cars if you're into gun slits for windows but the advice I'll give is to go for the v8. A friend had a 300 for a rental and it was absolutely gutless. They claim the 2.7l v6 is 190hp but I suspect thats at 5000 rpm or some other crazy number. Its also got that stupid progressive throttle so it feels like it runs out of juice in the high end... Wait, I remember now this is Mrs. Snook isn't it? Has some of his car behavior rubbed off on her? I though the Expedition was a keeper forever... Yes, it was my wife. She loves the Expedition, but she has started traveling more for work and really hates the 16 mpg. Now, what I am about to say may shock many of you. I actually argued for her to keep the Expedition instead of getting another car. I know it sounds crazy. But, I remembered what a lot of people on here (and other places) had said about getting another car just to get better fuel mileage. It doesn't make sense. She has driven the Expedition for 3 years now and she still really likes it. But, she has decided that the smart thing to do when she has to go out of town is to DRIVE MY CAR! That really is okay with me because its not that often and its not that much of a sacrifice for me. The Expedition is a nice vehicle. I think driving my car some and the idea of getting better mileage planted a seed in her mind. Our realtor has a Dodge Charger (with the Hemi and the cool black graphics for the Daytona R/T package. She started really admiring it and thinks she really likes the Chargers and the 300. As far as the 300 goes, there is actually a third engine option. They have a larger V6. You are right the 2.7 is a complete dog. But, they have a 3.5 that really is pretty strong. I drove a friends Magnum wagon with the 3.5 and it has plenty of power. I think the Magnum is a 300 with the wagon rear end added on. I don't know if she is really serious. I will try to talk her out of it, but you know what they say: Happy Wife = Happy Life! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Dodge Charger
Who was saying their wife wanted a Charger or 300? They seem like okay cars if you're into gun slits for windows but the advice I'll give is to go for the v8. A friend had a 300 for a rental and it was absolutely gutless. They claim the 2.7l v6 is 190hp but I suspect thats at 5000 rpm or some other crazy number. Its also got that stupid progressive throttle so it feels like it runs out of juice in the high end... Wait, I remember now this is Mrs. Snook isn't it? Has some of his car behavior rubbed off on her? I though the Expedition was a keeper forever... Sorry for starting a new thread but I'm just back from vacation and it was hard moving from digest to write a new email on my blackberry. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
