Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
Assuming you are talking about the bolts from the axle to the Diff. Those are not hex head. They take a special socket. If you are committed to using new bolts, (not a bad idea) then put 7 to 10 inch vicegrips on them and get them started. BTDT! I had some that had evidently been out and then put back with permanent loctite. I ended up beating on the vicegrips to get them out. I think they are like the OM 60x headbolts only opposite. I think that was called a triple square head. You CAN do it yourself! no need to wimp out. At 02:13 PM 11/16/2008, you wrote: I didn't pick up the axe, I picked up (with not a small amount of trepidation) the chainsaw... I doubt it, the 190D axles bolt to a flange that then runs into the diff. I don't think any appreciable amount of heat builds up at the axle bolts. I thought about applying some heat but its tough as the CV is right there and I don't want to damage the boot. Its also no fun lying on your back in the driveway with a torch... I will spec NEW hardware for reassembly. -Curt --- On Sun, 11/16/08, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 3:07 PM After a morning like that, you were brave to pick up an axe. hee hee. If the 190 is on the road, I wonder if driving it a bit, and allowing some heat sink in the diff would make getting those bolts out any easier? Ed 300E 2008/11/16 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
It's a reverse triple square? You can find those at most auto zoos. I have a set. I think they fell under GM tools. Had to have them for my VW Bug (don't remember why particularly). -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: Assuming you are talking about the bolts from the axle to the Diff. Those are not hex head. They take a special socket. If you are committed to using new bolts, (not a bad idea) then put 7 to 10 inch vicegrips on them and get them started. BTDT! I had some that had evidently been out and then put back with permanent loctite. I ended up beating on the vicegrips to get them out. I think they are like the OM 60x headbolts only opposite. I think that was called a triple square head. You CAN do it yourself! no need to wimp out. At 02:13 PM 11/16/2008, you wrote: I didn't pick up the axe, I picked up (with not a small amount of trepidation) the chainsaw... I doubt it, the 190D axles bolt to a flange that then runs into the diff. I don't think any appreciable amount of heat builds up at the axle bolts. I thought about applying some heat but its tough as the CV is right there and I don't want to damage the boot. Its also no fun lying on your back in the driveway with a torch... I will spec NEW hardware for reassembly. -Curt --- On Sun, 11/16/08, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 3:07 PM After a morning like that, you were brave to pick up an axe. hee hee. If the 190 is on the road, I wonder if driving it a bit, and allowing some heat sink in the diff would make getting those bolts out any easier? Ed 300E 2008/11/16 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
They are normal hex heads, I promise, I wasn't even drinking when I tried 'em. Triple square are inset like allen bolts these are NOT inset, they're normal hex head but they're already chewed up. I tried vice grips on them already, the problem I had was getting enough of the vice grip on to bite but not tearing up the CV boot at the same time. Theres not any extra space there... I don't have time now to work on it and its dark by the time I get home, cold too, 22F this morning. Too cold to lie on my back in the driveway... -Curt --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:36 PM Assuming you are talking about the bolts from the axle to the Diff. Those are not hex head. They take a special socket. If you are committed to using new bolts, (not a bad idea) then put 7 to 10 inch vicegrips on them and get them started. BTDT! I had some that had evidently been out and then put back with permanent loctite. I ended up beating on the vicegrips to get them out. I think they are like the OM 60x headbolts only opposite. I think that was called a triple square head. You CAN do it yourself! no need to wimp out. At 02:13 PM 11/16/2008, you wrote: I didn't pick up the axe, I picked up (with not a small amount of trepidation) the chainsaw... I doubt it, the 190D axles bolt to a flange that then runs into the diff. I don't think any appreciable amount of heat builds up at the axle bolts. I thought about applying some heat but its tough as the CV is right there and I don't want to damage the boot. Its also no fun lying on your back in the driveway with a torch... I will spec NEW hardware for reassembly. -Curt --- On Sun, 11/16/08, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 3:07 PM After a morning like that, you were brave to pick up an axe. hee hee. If the 190 is on the road, I wonder if driving it a bit, and allowing some heat sink in the diff would make getting those bolts out any easier? Ed 300E 2008/11/16 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
Is there such a thing? I think the one I stripped might have been, the two I loosened definately were normal hex head. I spent a long time (5+ minutes) under there just staring at them... Then I cleaned a couple good with a toothbrush. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:06:53 -0500 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's a reverse triple square? You can find those at most auto zoos. I have a set. I think they fell under GM tools. Had to have them for my VW Bug (don't remember why particularly). -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sheesh
You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
After a morning like that, you were brave to pick up an axe. hee hee. If the 190 is on the road, I wonder if driving it a bit, and allowing some heat sink in the diff would make getting those bolts out any easier? Ed 300E 2008/11/16 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheesh
I didn't pick up the axe, I picked up (with not a small amount of trepidation) the chainsaw... I doubt it, the 190D axles bolt to a flange that then runs into the diff. I don't think any appreciable amount of heat builds up at the axle bolts. I thought about applying some heat but its tough as the CV is right there and I don't want to damage the boot. Its also no fun lying on your back in the driveway with a torch... I will spec NEW hardware for reassembly. -Curt --- On Sun, 11/16/08, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheesh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 3:07 PM After a morning like that, you were brave to pick up an axe. hee hee. If the 190 is on the road, I wonder if driving it a bit, and allowing some heat sink in the diff would make getting those bolts out any easier? Ed 300E 2008/11/16 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get those days you were better off staying in bed? Went out to breakfast and then figured I'd hit the ground running on the 190D since the rain quit. Turns out the bolts are just 10mm heads. Stripped the first one pretty good right off the bat. Tried pounding a 9mm socket on and just split the socket. Got two others started and found somebody had already stripped one on the other side. Figured maybe I'd try pulling the diff first, see if I could get the axles off out of the car. Thats when I found out my metric wrench set doesn't have 15mm so getting the driveshaft off is going to be big fun. Okay screw that job, let my Indy have it. Pick everything up, clean the water out of two of my studded snows (why did 2 have water and the other two didn't? I dunno, all were bagged, no tears in the bags.) toss all 4 in the trunk of the 240D, off to Wal-Mart. Kid says its a 2 1/2 hour wait, theres only 2 guys working. Great... So I came home and cut some wood and now I'm gonna take a nap. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sheesh
A couple months ago when I went to Iowa I left the lights on on my 190D. 2 days later you can imagine how dead the battery was. Yesterday when I returned from Burbank I realized I'd left the dome light on. As my grandfather would have said Jumpin Jesus, bald headed Christ. So now I know that the battery in my 190D is good enough to leave the dome light on for nearly 4 days and still start the car. Not with any extra mind you but the car did indeed start. Yeah battery life is definately shortened I'm sure. Worst part is the battery isn't even a year old. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sheesh
If its not one thing its another. Got my new roll of wire, fed the dog, fed myself. Spent some time with the dog. Got back out to the garage, put the new wire in, got it fed through the gun correctly, made a few welds, beat the metal to a better shape (I did a better job on the other side. The seam needs to be under the car not at the middle of the bend under the car, I didn't know that before. Now its raining... Productivity grinds to a halt... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
