Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-22 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I used a drawing. I also used 2 sets of feeler gauges and just adjusted whatever one was next up when I turned the cam. I discovered 2 things that I hope to remember for next time. The 2nd from the last valve - (exhaust on #5 I think) required that I use a different wrench. I have the special

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
I think that one went to his pay portal. clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec,

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-10 Thread Meade Dillon
Yes, that was why it caught my attention. I think it was in the video of a '79 300SD that he had tuned up by advancing the injection timing and I think he also advanced the camshaft timing with an offset key. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 10, 2014 12:08 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-10 Thread Rick Knoble
] adjusting valves Yes, that was why it caught my attention.  I think it was in the video of a '79 300SD that he had tuned up by advancing the injection timing and I think he also advanced the camshaft timing with an offset key. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-10 Thread Meade Dillon
Rick, thanks, that's the video I was thinking of. I had the author wrong, and down in the comments is one from the author about turning the valve spring retainer to adjust the valve clearance at the TIGHTEST (?) point. That didn't make sense to me, I would imagine that the retainer would trend

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
gauges. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
) gloves; Diesel oil stains. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're working with the same set

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
Clicker? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123 wagons at MBCA tech sessions, under supervision

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves on my 123

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That requires way too much effort IMO. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Fred Moir
Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve. Andrew DIesel

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
...@hotmail.com wrote: Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP lever tied down? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align properly when you've finished adjusting each valve

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Fred Moir
Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers) Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is disconnected there is nothing

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Ouch. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers) Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
E: All of the Above --R On 7/9/14 3:40 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Either you're making a strange joke or you're the strangest person I know. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
: [MBZ] adjusting valves That requires way too much effort IMO. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Meade Dillon
Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then double check by rotating that big nut around again. Max Dillon, Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-09 Thread Craig
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:47:27 -0400 Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then double

[MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-08 Thread Randy Bennell
I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket but have yet to do it. I was thinking about it this past weekend and did a bit of searching online. The advice offered was pretty loose. My past experience with gas

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-08 Thread Dan Penoff
If you're setting valves on a diesel, you want the cam lobe to be 180 degrees (opposite) the flat spot on the follower. That's not necessarily straight up. I eyeballed it for years and never had a problem. Straight up is not usually 180 degrees out. Dan On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Randy

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
normal set of wrenches although I did buy a nice big set of feeler gauges. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-08 Thread Scott Ritchey
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] adjusting valves I have been more than a bit negligent in terms of keeping the valves set on my old 300D. I bought the tools and the new gasket

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves - was: 240D success!

2013-07-14 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: Today I tried adjusting the valves, I'll not try that again until I get a proper set of wrenches... I use normal flat wrenches - except I have one ground thinner. I found the intakes all slightly loose (0.13mm) except for one that was perfect. Loose is good! Too loose and

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Mitch Haley
John W. Reames III wrote: for intake, add 0.05mm for extended ambient temps below -20C But if it's -10C when you adjust them, there's no reason to add more clearance. You will have a bit more clearance at -10 than at room temperature (+20C).

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread kevin kraly
But if it's -10C when you adjust them, THE ENGINE AND THE WRENCHES ARE TERRIBLY COLD TO THE TOUCH! bur! I'll be waiting until the temps climb a bit although it's probably 6oC or 42oF here, balmy compared to much of the country right now. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265k miles,

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no? No. You won't enjoy it. (Otherwise no problem.) I recommend you plug in the block heater for a couple of hours, your fingers will thank you. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:57:25 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no? No. You won't enjoy it. (Otherwise no problem.) I recommend you plug in the block heater for a couple of

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Werner Fehlauer
, you would want to warm the tools beforehand, also! Werner - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/18/2007 3:31:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no? I have not done the valves in 2 yrs and I don't have a heated garage. Absolutely

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:54:51 -0500 Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it safely, do the adjustment? Because that will have even worse temperature

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread jwreames
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Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Werner Fehlauer wrote: Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it safely, do the adjustment? That should allow doing it above the freezing temperatures of the day, and also have some mercy on the

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread John Robbins
Werner Fehlauer wrote: Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it safely, do the adjustment? That should allow doing it above the freezing temperatures of the day, and also have some mercy on the

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread Marshall Booth
John Robbins wrote: The plate on my car says if above a certain temp use xx values or if its below that temp use... etc. (I don't remember the values or temp, but know that I've always needed the 'cold' ones). IMO, its been two years since the valve adjustment was done the little itty

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-19 Thread jwreames
Thanks. I noticed a decided difference in engine running between stone cold (overnight sit) versus warm adjustments. I always wondered why, or if it was something that I was doing wrong. I've gotten to where I can adjust them on the street in 30 mins (It has gotten a question or three from the

[MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-18 Thread Roger Conlon
Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no? I have not done the valves in 2 yrs and I don't have a heated garage. _ Valentine’s Day -- Shop for gifts that spell

Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather

2007-01-18 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Roger Conlon wrote: Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no? I have not done the valves in 2 yrs and I don't have a heated garage. Intake is [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exhaust for NA is [EMAIL