[MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)
Thanks, Werner, for the info on the exhaust pieces! Did yours have soot all around the leaky section so that you knew exactly where it was? I do have a set of jackstands and ramps as well. Will either of these get the car high enough to do the job? I had to buy some ratchet extensions to remove a few exhaust pieces to replace the starter in my SIL's '95 Rodeo, and good old Dad has just about any tool at his place I would ever need including some longer ratchet extensions. My parents have new cars now, so the tools have mostly been used on my junkers. He's offered to give me the fully equipped toolbox when I can find the space in the garage to put it. He would be fine with a simple set of wrenches, sockets and screwdrivers along with different sized plyers and Vise Grips or similar to do most things around the house. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)
Kevin - I found that the crack didn't show hardly any soot, as the metal is smooth and the crack just a hairline. I had to remove the air filter and the filter mounting bracket. I used an offset 10mm to get leverage on the nuts, and a universal adapter for the hard to reach parts. I found that just ramps alone weren't high enough due to the long horizontal section under the floorboards. As I was working over dirt, I could dig out a bit under the pipe so that it fit, after I really raised the front with my floor jack and blocks. In my case, the pipe had to be rotated almost 70 degrees from normal to get it up past the firewall. I suppose with tall jackstands (be careful) it could be done. Now that I have an indoor lift, I wouldn't try it any other way! Werner - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD) Thanks, Werner, for the info on the exhaust pieces! Did yours have soot all around the leaky section so that you knew exactly where it was? I do have a set of jackstands and ramps as well. Will either of these get the car high enough to do the job? I had to buy some ratchet extensions to remove a few exhaust pieces to replace the starter in my SIL's '95 Rodeo, and good old Dad has just about any tool at his place I would ever need including some longer ratchet extensions. My parents have new cars now, so the tools have mostly been used on my junkers. He's offered to give me the fully equipped toolbox when I can find the space in the garage to put it. He would be fine with a simple set of wrenches, sockets and screwdrivers along with different sized plyers and Vise Grips or similar to do most things around the house. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)
Thanks again! Would it be best to get at the air filter nuts and the top flange fasteners with the car on the ground, and then go for the lower ones once it's raised? I don't have an garage with an indoor lift (the garage at our next house WILL be equipped with one), and it will be heated as well. If I'm lucky, it MAY just be one of the donuts leaking, but since Carl and Gottlieb aren't happy with my improper star...? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:53:38 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (the garage at our next house WILL be equipped with one), and it will be heated as well. Sounds like a plan! If I'm lucky, it MAY just be one of the donuts leaking, Unfortunately, you won't know until you get in there. but since Carl and Gottlieb aren't happy with my improper star...? It turns out there is some confusion about the spelling of Herr Benz's first name. The Gottlieb-Daimler- and Karl Benz-Foundation spells it with a K. http://www.daimler-benz-stiftung.de/home/en/start.html Mercedes-Benz USA spells it with a K. http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/karl-benz.do The translation of the German page (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benz) at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=deu=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benzsa=Xoi=translateresnum=8ct=resultprev=/search%3Fq%3Dcarl%2Bbenz%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG clears up the confusion (though it's a transliteration rather than a translation so it's not really good English), == Karl or Carl? The way of writing of the Benz first name also today still provides for confusion. Which city their Karl Benz place is, the neighbour municipality their Carl Benz school. The autopioneer provided for the orthographic confusion. In the birth register of Mühlburg it is located under 25 November 1844 as a Karl Friedrich Michael registered. He registered himself 1860 handwritten as a Karl Benz at the polytechnic institute in Karlsruhe. And on his first patent specification of 1880 stands: Karl Benz to Mannheim. End of the nineteenth century came the French way of writing of German names into mode, Karlsruhe was called now for the chice world Carlsruhe, and Karl Benz marked of now on mostly as Carl Benz. The next patent specification of 1882 is issued on Carl Benz in Mannheim. And its enterprise in shop castle firmierte under Carl Benz Sons KG. Both C and the K-parliamentary group among the language scholars supplied thus good reasons for both variants to Benz with; none of the two is correctly wrong. The DaimlerChrysler AG decided for the way of writing with K as the historically clearer. Also general national archives in Karlsruhe nevertheless recognize this version due to the entry in the baptismal register on. == In addition, there's an article regarding how important his wife, Bertha, was to the operation at http://www.autonews.com/files/euroauto/inductees/benz.htm Craig
Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)
Craig et al: The museum and original workshop in Manheim clearly has a large sign that has the name as Carl. Also, the lapel pins they sell in the gift shops all say C.Benzcie. Ergo, Herr Benz's fist name is Carl, not Karl, which would be the more usual German spelling. No such problem with Gottlieb Daimler! Werner - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD) On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:53:38 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (the garage at our next house WILL be equipped with one), and it will be heated as well. Sounds like a plan! If I'm lucky, it MAY just be one of the donuts leaking, Unfortunately, you won't know until you get in there. but since Carl and Gottlieb aren't happy with my improper star...? It turns out there is some confusion about the spelling of Herr Benz's first name. The Gottlieb-Daimler- and Karl Benz-Foundation spells it with a K. http://www.daimler-benz-stiftung.de/home/en/start.html Mercedes-Benz USA spells it with a K. http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/karl-benz.do The translation of the German page (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benz) at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=deu=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benzsa=Xoi=translateresnum=8ct=resultprev=/search%3Fq%3Dcarl%2Bbenz%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG clears up the confusion (though it's a transliteration rather than a translation so it's not really good English), == Karl or Carl? The way of writing of the Benz first name also today still provides for confusion. Which city their Karl Benz place is, the neighbour municipality their Carl Benz school. The autopioneer provided for the orthographic confusion. In the birth register of Mühlburg it is located under 25 November 1844 as a Karl Friedrich Michael registered. He registered himself 1860 handwritten as a Karl Benz at the polytechnic institute in Karlsruhe. And on his first patent specification of 1880 stands: Karl Benz to Mannheim. End of the nineteenth century came the French way of writing of German names into mode, Karlsruhe was called now for the chice world Carlsruhe, and Karl Benz marked of now on mostly as Carl Benz. The next patent specification of 1882 is issued on Carl Benz in Mannheim. And its enterprise in shop castle firmierte under Carl Benz Sons KG. Both C and the K-parliamentary group among the language scholars supplied thus good reasons for both variants to Benz with; none of the two is correctly wrong. The DaimlerChrysler AG decided for the way of writing with K as the historically clearer. Also general national archives in Karlsruhe nevertheless recognize this version due to the entry in the baptismal register on. == In addition, there's an article regarding how important his wife, Bertha, was to the operation at http://www.autonews.com/files/euroauto/inductees/benz.htm Craig
