Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Would you rather pay high prices without even knowing?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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  On August 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
  2.99 in Muskegon, MI. Two days ago. Refinery malfunction in Indiana.
 

 Now our Attorney General is taking a page from the Granholm playbook and
 sending threatening letters to gas stations about price increases.

 Does he know something I don't know, or are the stations just passing along
 wholesale price increases and he's being a jackass?

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
2.99 in Muskegon, MI. Two days ago. Refinery malfunction in Indiana. 

Michael Esh
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 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is the lowest price I've seen here, earlier this afternoon.  Just filled my 
 tank for an effective price of $1.84, 20% off $2.299 with a discount gas 
 card from local grocery chain.  North Charleston, Rivers near I526, if you're 
 looking.
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
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 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, the gas station market is imperfect.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Both no alcohol gas and Diesel were $2.35 this morning, saw another station
 with no alcohol gas at $2.90 however -

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  We're still a hair above $2.50.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Both no alcohol gas and Diesel were $2.35 this morning, saw another station
with no alcohol gas at $2.90 however -

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 We're still a hair above $2.50.




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OK Don

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 2.99 in Muskegon, MI. Two days ago. Refinery malfunction in Indiana. 
 

Now our Attorney General is taking a page from the Granholm playbook and
sending threatening letters to gas stations about price increases. 

Does he know something I don't know, or are the stations just passing along
wholesale price increases and he's being a jackass?

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We're still a hair above $2.50.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 2.99 in Muskegon, MI. Two days ago. Refinery malfunction in Indiana.

 Michael Esh
 231-894-5505


  On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Is the lowest price I've seen here, earlier this afternoon.  Just filled
 my tank for an effective price of $1.84, 20% off $2.299 with a discount
 gas card from local grocery chain.  North Charleston, Rivers near I526,
 if you're looking.
  --
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  Charleston SC
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  '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes




Is the lowest price I've seen here, earlier this 
afternoon.  Just filled my tank for an effective 
price of $1.84, 20% off $2.299 with a discount 
gas card from local grocery chain.  North 
Charleston, Rivers near I526, if you're looking.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


$2.01 to 2.07 reported in the gulf coast  Mobile-Gufpo't area.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Benzin is up 
15¢/gal here.  Presumably due to the political 
circus at the state fair and the universities 
about to crank up mean a fair number of people 
moving around.

$2.68 again.

An obvious ripoff.

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
GMANN sez:  World wide, crude oil prices 
continue to fall.. last price I saw was was

$44.++ per barrel... over two weeks ago.

Dollar value [the world exchange currency for oil purchase] has risen as
oil price has fallen..

The price of fuel tax remains the same or has risen

Demand is down, car owners are driving less due to bad economy and high
fuel prices..

Someone do the math on all that...


Ja, and here, they could not pass the 10¢ raise 
in gas/dissel tax, so the speaker (socialist=R) 
canned 2 people of the committee who rightly 
opposed the tax, put himself on the committee 
along with a yes man, passed the dead bill out of 
committee, rammed it through the (socialist) 
house, got a quick rubber stamp in the (marxist) 
senate, and the (socialist) goobernator's 
autograph all before anyone knew the legislature 
was open fer biz.  And not a normal bill, 
implemented the following July 1, but an 
emergency bill that went into effect within a 
week.   That's called a democratic process (in 
the USSR)


Any wunder folks is likin' donal?

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The local monopoly gas station chain jumped the prices of reg from 2.12 2 days 
ago to 2.45 today. Diesel still remains 2.08 to 2.18

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 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is the lowest price I've seen here, earlier this afternoon.  Just filled my 
 tank for an effective price of $1.84, 20% off $2.299 with a discount gas 
 card from local grocery chain.  North Charleston, Rivers near I526, if you're 
 looking.
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
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 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
World wide, crude oil prices continue to fall.. last price I saw was was
$44.++ per barrel... over two weeks ago.

Dollar value [the world exchange currency for oil purchase] has risen as
oil price has fallen..

The price of fuel tax remains the same or has risen

Demand is down, car owners are driving less due to bad economy and high
fuel prices..

Someone do the math on all that...

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:




 Is the lowest price I've seen here, earlier this afternoon.  Just filled
 my tank for an effective price of $1.84, 20% off $2.299 with a discount
 gas card from local grocery chain.  North Charleston, Rivers near I526,
 if you're looking.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300


 $2.01 to 2.07 reported in the gulf coast  Mobile-Gufpo't area.

 Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Benzin is up 15¢/gal here.  Presumably due
 to the political circus at the state fair and the universities about to
 crank up mean a fair number of people moving around.
 $2.68 again.

 An obvious ripoff.

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎G Mann sez:

World wide, crude oil prices continue to fall.. last price I saw was was
$44.++ per barrel... over two weeks ago.

Dollar value [the world exchange currency for oil purchase] has risen as
oil price has fallen..

The price of fuel tax remains the same or has risen

Demand is down, car owners are driving less due to bad economy and high
fuel prices..

Someone do the math on all that...

BP did the math. 
And here's their answer. 

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2015/08/13/BPs-Whiting-refinery-handicapped-for-several-weeks/4731439461249/

Better article 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-11/one-indiana-refinery-breakdown-ripples-through-u-s-oil-market

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
There you go. Problem solved. To much cheap oil, just shut down a refinery
for a few months...

EPA has not allowed a new refinery to be built in over 25 years anywhere in
the USA. Existing refinery capacity is limited by antiquated equipment
which has been patched together repeatedly while trying to meet ever more
stringent EPA regulations.

A new refinery, built from scratch would use more efficient component
parts, built to latest EPA standards, however, EPA will not permit new
construction, along with various environmental groups protesting.

Thus... we are refinery limited, which drives up the cost per gallon.

Better living through government regulation, yet again.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 ‎G Mann sez:

 World wide, crude oil prices continue to fall.. last price I saw was was
 $44.++ per barrel... over two weeks ago.

 Dollar value [the world exchange currency for oil purchase] has risen as
 oil price has fallen..

 The price of fuel tax remains the same or has risen

 Demand is down, car owners are driving less due to bad economy and high
 fuel prices..

 Someone do the math on all that...

 BP did the math.
 And here's their answer.


 http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2015/08/13/BPs-Whiting-refinery-handicapped-for-several-weeks/4731439461249/

 Better article


 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-11/one-indiana-refinery-breakdown-ripples-through-u-s-oil-market

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

A week ago, gas was about 2.33 here (87 octane gasahol).
Now it's 2.99, and 93 octane is 3.39-3.59.
It might as well be 2012 again. 

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Re: [MBZ] $2.239

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎G Mann writes:

EPA has not allowed a new refinery to be built in over 25 years anywhere in
the USA. Existing refinery capacity is limited by antiquated equipment
which has been patched together repeatedly while trying to meet ever more
stringent EPA regulations.


BP in Whiting, IN dumped a butt ton of money into their refinery a few years 
ago. I suspect this outage is because someone hit the wrong switch or 
something. 
Wink, Wink, nudge,nudge. 
‎
http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/press/press-releases/bp-starts-up-new-crude-unit-at-whiting-refinery.html

http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/bp-completes-construction-on-refinery-project/article_c8c57491-35ed-51c5-a6ac-a7139d84fac7.html

And yeah, the EPA does get in the way a bit. 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-17/news/chi-bp-pollution-archive-20131017_1_whiting-refinery-u-s-refinery-massive-refinery


Rick 
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