Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A complete car but no photos.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL oil cooler lines

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Take a set off one of yer junkers, cut the ferrules, and replace the 
hoses with new hose.  Then replace.  It will probably cost you all of 
$20 or $30.


Alternatively, you could by enough hose (probably 6 ft or so) and 8 
clamps and do the job on the car.   That way you don't have to disturb 
the nuts at the oil cooler or at the oil filter.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I think I probably need to replace the oil cooler lines sooner rather 
than later on the SDL. I do not see them on any of the sites and it 
looks like dealer lines are close to $500.  What is the source for these?



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL oil cooler lines

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was thinking the same thing. Get that AC line done at the same time.
Curt

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  On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:33 AM, Meade Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Your local hydraulic shop to put new 
lines on the old fittings?

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> I think I probably need to replace the oil cooler lines sooner rather than
> later on the SDL. I do not see them on any of the sites and it looks like
> dealer lines are close to $500.  What is the source for these?
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL oil cooler lines

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Your local hydraulic shop to put new lines on the old fittings?

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> I think I probably need to replace the oil cooler lines sooner rather than
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> dealer lines are close to $500.  What is the source for these?
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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Yes it does.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On May 19, 2018 11:08 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" 
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> It looks reel purty
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> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
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> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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> > Here are some quick photos. It’s also going to need a belt tensioner as
> it rattles and belt squeals. Drivers seat not working, both drivers side
> windows are not working, car has very little power, will just barely more
> into the shop with the pedal floored. It’s going to need some serious tlc.
> The dude said it was drivable back to Tulsa. Glad I decided to take the
> trailer. No way would I have attempted to drive it.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

It looks reel purty


clay 

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> On May 19, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Here are some quick photos. It’s also going to need a belt tensioner as it 
> rattles and belt squeals. Drivers seat not working, both drivers side windows 
> are not working, car has very little power, will just barely more into the 
> shop with the pedal floored. It’s going to need some serious tlc. The dude 
> said it was drivable back to Tulsa. Glad I decided to take the trailer. No 
> way would I have attempted to drive it. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Head crack, one cylinder hydro locks... bends rod
Regardless of which engine, water does not compress something has to
give...

All the monkey work trying to get it to run, had to have a reason to
start...
Just a theory. Park it closer to the computer so I can get a good look
at it... ;))

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 7:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> Nope, cracked 14 head.
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> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 9:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
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> > Bent rod
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> > Place your bets... evidence of water in oil at some time Any takers?
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> > > It’s in the shop because the back window will not roll up after it got
> > > rolled down
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Nope, cracked 14 head.

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 9:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> Bent rod
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> Place your bets... evidence of water in oil at some time Any takers?
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> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Bad head gasket most likely.  

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The 3.0 does not bend rods that I have heard of

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> On May 19, 2018, at 9:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Bent rod
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> Place your bets... evidence of water in oil at some time Any takers?
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> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> It’s in the shop because the back window will not roll up after it got
>> rolled down
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 Anyone want to start a pool on when it will >be on the back 40?
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Bent rod

Place your bets... evidence of water in oil at some time Any takers?

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> It’s in the shop because the back window will not roll up after it got
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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It’s in the shop because the back window will not roll up after it got rolled 
down

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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>Anyone want to start a pool on when it will >be on the back 40?

Already is...

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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Well maybe but it’s going to need a ton of work. 

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> On May 19, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
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> On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:59:59 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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>>> There’s $800 worth of parts there…
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:59:59 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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> They had it listed at $1800.
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> > On May 19, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> > There’s $800 worth of parts there…

That's some good wheeling and dealing!


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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They had it listed at $1800.

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> On May 19, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> There’s $800 worth of parts there…
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> That radiator is worth a bunch.
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> Anyone want to start a pool on when it will be on the back 40?
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> -D
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>> On May 19, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> Here are some quick photos. It’s also going to need a belt tensioner as it 
>> rattles and belt squeals. Drivers seat not working, both drivers side 
>> windows are not working, car has very little power, will just barely more 
>> into the shop with the pedal floored. It’s going to need some serious tlc. 
>> The dude said it was drivable back to Tulsa. Glad I decided to take the 
>> trailer. No way would I have attempted to drive it. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

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On May 19, 2018 4:59:54 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Here are some quick photos. It’s also going to need a belt tensioner as
>it rattles and belt squeals. Drivers seat not working, both drivers
>side windows are not working, car has very little power, will just
>barely more into the shop with the pedal floored. It’s going to need
>some serious tlc. The dude said it was drivable back to Tulsa. Glad I
>decided to take the trailer. No way would I have attempted to drive it.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project photos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There’s $800 worth of parts there…

That radiator is worth a bunch.

Anyone want to start a pool on when it will be on the back 40?

-D


> On May 19, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here are some quick photos. It’s also going to need a belt tensioner as it 
> rattles and belt squeals. Drivers seat not working, both drivers side windows 
> are not working, car has very little power, will just barely more into the 
> shop with the pedal floored. It’s going to need some serious tlc. The dude 
> said it was drivable back to Tulsa. Glad I decided to take the trailer. No 
> way would I have attempted to drive it. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

$800

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> On May 19, 2018, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> What did it set you back for the SDL?
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> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Don’t get too excited about the ortho seats.  I guarantee the bladders
>> are
>>> all bad and leak like sieves.  Replacements are NLA, which sucks.  Heck,
>>> even the bladders for the W140s are now NLA.
>>> 
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>> But if you want new fenders for your Gullwing,  no sweat.  ;-)
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What did it set you back for the SDL?

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Don’t get too excited about the ortho seats.  I guarantee the bladders
> are
> > all bad and leak like sieves.  Replacements are NLA, which sucks.  Heck,
> > even the bladders for the W140s are now NLA.
> >
>
> But if you want new fenders for your Gullwing,  no sweat.  ;-)
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On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don’t get too excited about the ortho seats.  I guarantee the bladders are
> all bad and leak like sieves.  Replacements are NLA, which sucks.  Heck,
> even the bladders for the W140s are now NLA.
>

But if you want new fenders for your Gullwing,  no sweat.  ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl project

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don’t get too excited about the ortho seats.  I guarantee the bladders are all 
bad and leak like sieves.  Replacements are NLA, which sucks.  Heck, even the 
bladders for the W140s are now NLA.

-D


> On May 19, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just loaded up another 300 sdl on my trailer in Arkansas. It looked good in 
> the pics so I came over to look at it. It’s dark blue with blue interior. 
> Paint is actually in really good shape. Front seat covers will need to be 
> replaced. Car has the front ortho seats. I have never seen this in person on 
> a 126, much less a sdl.  Very rare option. I am surprised it does not also 
> have the rare reclining back seat. Engine compartment looks clean but I see 
> evidence of oil in the coolant at some point. Has a new radiator which is one 
> of those custom aluminum deals. Car runs and sounds like hell. Somebody did 
> some work on the delivery valves. They serrated edges is chewed off in spots 
> so they used the wrong tool. The holding clamps are missing, and they are 
> pissing fuel out of them.  I will get some photos when I get home. Worse case 
> I have to pull the head or just swap the engine. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nuffin


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
March 27, 2017 at 2:31 PM
I don't own such a tool. What can't I do?




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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I don't own such a tool. What can't I do?

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have a set of Harbor Freight ones, they're okay. Won't remove the ring
>> that holds the jack on the trailer though, they won't open (close? I
>> forget) far enough...
>> -Curt
>>
>
> Any of the ones with interchangeable pin/tips are suspect.
> Some of the solid sheet metal ones are good, some are as strong as
> Campbell's soup can metal.
> Haven't seen a bad one that was forged like a set of needle nose pliers.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

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Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I have a set of Harbor Freight ones, they're okay. Won't remove the ring that 
holds the jack on the trailer though, they won't open (close? I forget) far 
enough...
-Curt


Any of the ones with interchangeable pin/tips are suspect.
Some of the solid sheet metal ones are good, some are as strong as Campbell's 
soup can metal.

Haven't seen a bad one that was forged like a set of needle nose pliers.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I have a set of Harbor Freight ones, they're okay. Won't remove the ring that 
holds the jack on the trailer though, they won't open (close? I forget) far 
enough...
-Curt


  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor
   
I used some the other day, might have been a HF set, I don't know.  They 
were in my tool box and I use them maybe once or twice a year for 
something and they "just work."  It's kinda hard to get the things 
wrong, I'm not sure what the issue is unless you are just a bunch of 
whinning loosers.

--FT


On 3/26/17 3:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Agreed.  Although I would love to have a set of Hazet snap ring pliers. I bet 
> they would work good and feel good, too. ("THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!")
>
> -D
>
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had cheap 
>> taiwan, cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all are crap 
>> and the best of the bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 years ago when 
>> the cheap tools were from taiwan..  For years, I worked them out with 
>> screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears flat screwdrivers and a machinists 
>> scribe.  I always had them along.  They work on internal and external.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The clamp that is supposed to hold the pins in.doesn't.  
cheapchineechit or snappy, they are all the same and don't work if you 
encounter a stiff snap ring.


Maybe somebody sold ya some gooduns when ya lived up dere in massashoosets.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
March 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM
I used some the other day, might have been a HF set, I don't know.  
They were in my tool box and I use them maybe once or twice a year for 
something and they "just work."  It's kinda hard to get the things 
wrong, I'm not sure what the issue is unless you are just a bunch of 
whinning loosers.


--FT



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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

CORRECTION:  "whinning loosers"

--FT


On 3/26/17 3:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

This list is full of nothing but whining losers.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I used some the other day, might have been a HF set, I don't know.  They were in my tool 
box and I use them maybe once or twice a year for something and they "just 
work."  It's kinda hard to get the things wrong, I'm not sure what the issue is 
unless you are just a bunch of whinning loosers.

--FT



On 3/26/17 3:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Agreed.  Although I would love to have a set of Hazet snap ring pliers. I bet they would 
work good and feel good, too. ("THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!")

-D


On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had cheap taiwan, 
cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all are crap and the best of the 
bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 years ago when the cheap tools were from taiwan..  
For years, I worked them out with screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears 
flat screwdrivers and a machinists scribe.  I always had them along.  They work on 
internal and external.

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This list is full of nothing but whining losers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used some the other day, might have been a HF set, I don't know.  They were 
> in my tool box and I use them maybe once or twice a year for something and 
> they "just work."  It's kinda hard to get the things wrong, I'm not sure what 
> the issue is unless you are just a bunch of whinning loosers.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/26/17 3:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Agreed.  Although I would love to have a set of Hazet snap ring pliers. I 
>> bet they would work good and feel good, too. ("THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!")
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had 
>>> cheap taiwan, cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all are 
>>> crap and the best of the bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 years ago 
>>> when the cheap tools were from taiwan..  For years, I worked them out with 
>>> screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears flat screwdrivers and a 
>>> machinists scribe.  I always had them along.  They work on internal and 
>>> external.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good. 


Honda has/had some good ones.
They were about $8-10 a pair in the 1980s.
I should drop by a motorcycle dealer and ask to look at the catalog some time.
Wonder if the auto parts book has the same tools in it?

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I used some the other day, might have been a HF set, I don't know.  They 
were in my tool box and I use them maybe once or twice a year for 
something and they "just work."  It's kinda hard to get the things 
wrong, I'm not sure what the issue is unless you are just a bunch of 
whinning loosers.


--FT


On 3/26/17 3:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed.  Although I would love to have a set of Hazet snap ring pliers. I bet they would 
work good and feel good, too. ("THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!")

-D


On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had cheap taiwan, 
cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all are crap and the best of the 
bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 years ago when the cheap tools were from taiwan..  
For years, I worked them out with screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears 
flat screwdrivers and a machinists scribe.  I always had them along.  They work on 
internal and external.


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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.  Although I would love to have a set of Hazet snap ring pliers. I bet 
they would work good and feel good, too.

-D

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had cheap 
> taiwan, cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all are crap 
> and the best of the bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 years ago when the 
> cheap tools were from taiwan..  For years, I worked them out with 
> screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears flat screwdrivers and a machinists 
> scribe.  I always had them along.  They work on internal and external.


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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is hard to find any snap ring pliers that are any good.  I have had 
cheap taiwan, cheepchinee, name brand, like lisle and snappy.  They all 
are crap and the best of the bunch was the cheap taiwan set from 30 
years ago when the cheap tools were from taiwan..  For years, I worked 
them out with screwdrivers, 1/8" snears and 1/4" snears flat 
screwdrivers and a machinists scribe.  I always had them along.  They 
work on internal and external.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
March 26, 2017 at 12:13 PM
I was able to take mine apart without any special tools other than 
snap ring pliers.


It's really, really easy to reseal these.

And shame on you, Kaleb - how can you have all that stuff and not have 
at least one pair of snap ring pliers??


-D


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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dang kids.

-D


> On Mar 26, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have several pairs but they seem to be missing 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was able to take mine apart without any special tools other than snap ring 
>> pliers.
>> 
>> It's really, really easy to reseal these.
>> 
>> And shame on you, Kaleb - how can you have all that stuff and not have at 
>> least one pair of snap ring pliers??
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad


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I have several pairs but they seem to be missing 

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> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was able to take mine apart without any special tools other than snap ring 
> pliers.
> 
> It's really, really easy to reseal these.
> 
> And shame on you, Kaleb - how can you have all that stuff and not have at 
> least one pair of snap ring pliers??
> 
> -D
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a clutch holding tool but need to locate or go get some snap ring 
>> pliers. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just do the seals (front, rear, and top), they are easy once you get past
>>> the clutch.  If you've got the clutch tool, this is a no-brainer.
>>> 
>>> I'm going on something like ten years on the compressor I put new seals in.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 So I removed the compressor from the sdl with the intentions of replacing
 it with a new one I had on the shelf. I pulled the top like attachment
 plate and it's got the 4 individual ports where as the new one has the
 single large rectangle plate. I did around a bit and all the used
 compressors I have on the shelf have the 4 port deal. I have replaced many
 compressors with the rectangle plate. I found one that was still mounted to
 the engine and it does have the correct top plate but just to make are I
 decided to test mount the compressor. Nope, it ain't right, mounting holes
 are too far apart. Crap, so I am shut down for the moment. I can either
 just put in a used one and hope it works to get I done today, order the
 seal kit like poos does and reseal one of the used ones I have, or get a
 new/rebuilt one. Crap. I am sure poos would say get the seals and go that
 route but I am scared.
 
 
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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I was able to take mine apart without any special tools other than snap ring 
pliers.

It's really, really easy to reseal these.

And shame on you, Kaleb - how can you have all that stuff and not have at least 
one pair of snap ring pliers??

-D

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a clutch holding tool but need to locate or go get some snap ring 
> pliers. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just do the seals (front, rear, and top), they are easy once you get past
>> the clutch.  If you've got the clutch tool, this is a no-brainer.
>> 
>> I'm going on something like ten years on the compressor I put new seals in.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So I removed the compressor from the sdl with the intentions of replacing
>>> it with a new one I had on the shelf. I pulled the top like attachment
>>> plate and it's got the 4 individual ports where as the new one has the
>>> single large rectangle plate. I did around a bit and all the used
>>> compressors I have on the shelf have the 4 port deal. I have replaced many
>>> compressors with the rectangle plate. I found one that was still mounted to
>>> the engine and it does have the correct top plate but just to make are I
>>> decided to test mount the compressor. Nope, it ain't right, mounting holes
>>> are too far apart. Crap, so I am shut down for the moment. I can either
>>> just put in a used one and hope it works to get I done today, order the
>>> seal kit like poos does and reseal one of the used ones I have, or get a
>>> new/rebuilt one. Crap. I am sure poos would say get the seals and go that
>>> route but I am scared.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a clutch holding tool but need to locate or go get some snap ring 
pliers. 

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>  wrote:
> 
> Just do the seals (front, rear, and top), they are easy once you get past
> the clutch.  If you've got the clutch tool, this is a no-brainer.
> 
> I'm going on something like ten years on the compressor I put new seals in.
> 
> -
> Max
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> 
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
>> So I removed the compressor from the sdl with the intentions of replacing
>> it with a new one I had on the shelf. I pulled the top like attachment
>> plate and it's got the 4 individual ports where as the new one has the
>> single large rectangle plate. I did around a bit and all the used
>> compressors I have on the shelf have the 4 port deal. I have replaced many
>> compressors with the rectangle plate. I found one that was still mounted to
>> the engine and it does have the correct top plate but just to make are I
>> decided to test mount the compressor. Nope, it ain't right, mounting holes
>> are too far apart. Crap, so I am shut down for the moment. I can either
>> just put in a used one and hope it works to get I done today, order the
>> seal kit like poos does and reseal one of the used ones I have, or get a
>> new/rebuilt one. Crap. I am sure poos would say get the seals and go that
>> route but I am scared.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Just do the seals (front, rear, and top), they are easy once you get past
the clutch.  If you've got the clutch tool, this is a no-brainer.

I'm going on something like ten years on the compressor I put new seals in.

-
Max
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> So I removed the compressor from the sdl with the intentions of replacing
> it with a new one I had on the shelf. I pulled the top like attachment
> plate and it's got the 4 individual ports where as the new one has the
> single large rectangle plate. I did around a bit and all the used
> compressors I have on the shelf have the 4 port deal. I have replaced many
> compressors with the rectangle plate. I found one that was still mounted to
> the engine and it does have the correct top plate but just to make are I
> decided to test mount the compressor. Nope, it ain't right, mounting holes
> are too far apart. Crap, so I am shut down for the moment. I can either
> just put in a used one and hope it works to get I done today, order the
> seal kit like poos does and reseal one of the used ones I have, or get a
> new/rebuilt one. Crap. I am sure poos would say get the seals and go that
> route but I am scared.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl thoughts

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http://www.klimakit.com/product/parallel-flow-condenser-upgrade-kit-w126/

Only guys I know that sell them.  Nice guys, will ask you to send a picture of 
the fittings on your stock condenser to verify fitment.

-D

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Do you know of anybody that sells them?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl thoughts

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Do you know of anybody that sells them?

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> wrote:
> 
> Go for it!  I’ve been toying with the idea myself to see if it really makes a 
> difference….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So the sdl is apart swapping out the radiator. I figured while I had it out 
>> I would go ahead and replace the ac compressor with a new one I have on hand 
>> because the clutch is noisy and it seems to be leaking. The o rings and 
>> drier arrived yesterday from importec but now I got to thinking since the 
>> system is apart what about replacing the condenser with an upgraded parallel 
>> flow one? Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl thoughts

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Go for it!  I’ve been toying with the idea myself to see if it really makes a 
difference….

-D

 
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So the sdl is apart swapping out the radiator. I figured while I had it out I 
> would go ahead and replace the ac compressor with a new one I have on hand 
> because the clutch is noisy and it seems to be leaking. The o rings and drier 
> arrived yesterday from importec but now I got to thinking since the system is 
> apart what about replacing the condenser with an upgraded parallel flow one? 
> Thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Peter, like I said, 86 and later diesel 126s all used the same radiator...
confirmed in the EPC last night.  Plus I have a 91 350SDL in my driveway
with the downflow radiator!

Kaleb, I'd but this if I were you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Radiator-FOR-1986-1987-Mercedes-300SDL-/162377326319?hash=item25ce715eef:g:TVMAAOSwa~BYTtzn=mtr

They're hard to find anywhere in stock and the price is right.  They're
ugly, but they work.

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> The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the
> cross-flow was used.
>
> The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a
> rad for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line
> catalog, and if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of
> stock.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well mine has the tank in the top and hoses connect on top and bottlm not the 
sides like the 124

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> 
> The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the cross-flow 
> was used.
> 
> The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a rad 
> for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line catalog, 
> and if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of stock.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the cross-flow 
was used.

The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a rad 
for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line catalog, and 
if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of stock.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice!   Good find, Fred!


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
February 23, 2017 at 7:04 PM
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[http://www.brinsonco.com/store/media/ss_size2/1265005303.jpg]

Service Group 50 - Radiators
www.brinsonco.com
Radiator. This is a new, all aluminum radiator to replace the 
unobtainable original radiator for the 300SDL/350SD/SDL 1986-91. This 
is a direct replacement with no ...






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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Speaking of this, the 5303 part number comes up in the online dealer 
parts sites but says it also fits 300D and TD, which I know is not 
correct. I also see this part number pulling ebay listings with the 
cross flow radiator clearly pictured like would be used in the 124.  I 
am still in shock that there is not even an aftermarket version of 
this.  I did see this pop up


http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Radiator-FOR-1986-1987-Mercedes-300SDL-/162377326319?hash=item25ce715eef:g:TVMAAOSwa~BYTtzn=mtr



On 2/23/2017 7:21 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

126 500 27 03



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Let me dig thru my pile of radiators and see what I have. If not I will email 
you.

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> On Feb 23, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I needed one for my 350SDL over the summer.  I got lucky a found a NOS Behr
> on ebay by searching for the Behr part number.
> 
> I had previously placed an order with radiator express since I knew it was
> on its way out, it was back ordered for months.  I finally got a call in
> October or November that it had come in.  I told them I didn't want it and
> they said they still had a waiting list.  They couldn't get them fast
> enough.
> 
> I also have a good used one I got from a friend if you need one urgently.
> Its one of the updated Behrs with reinforced necks.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225
>> ia_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7m
>> mPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's one at Radiator
>> Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)
>> 
>> I searched for a 91 300SDL
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that
>>> runs about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still
>>> around.
>>> 
>>> A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper
>>> and lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.
>>> 
>>> My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom
>>> upper tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

86-87 300SDL and 90-91 350SDL radiators are the same.  Both use A 126 500
53 03 (which replaced A126 500 27 03).

Someone (incorrectly) told me that it was possible to install a cross flow
radiator ( from a diesel 124 A124 500 00 02).  I did some heavy research
into this (I bought one) and found that its simply impossible without major
modification to the car.  Its simply not practical.  Getting the right
hoses for the coolant and transmission cooler were possible with all MB
parts, but getting the radiator in place wasn't possible.  The lower mounts
are in a different place, requiring major modifications, but the radiator
also didn't fit in terms of width from what I remember.

I ended up returning all the parts and going with the NOS Behr I found.

Jaime




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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The 86 radiator is different than later ones, it's a downflow and not a
> crossflow.  They are only interchangeable if you change the radiator
> supports.
>
> And the available one is getting scarce
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The 86 radiator is different than later ones, it's a downflow and not a 
crossflow.  They are only interchangeable if you change the radiator supports.

And the available one is getting scarce


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

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http://www.brinsonco.com/store/page41.html

[http://www.brinsonco.com/store/media/ss_size2/1265005303.jpg]

Service Group 50 - Radiators
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Radiator. This is a new, all aluminum radiator to replace the unobtainable 
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replacement with no ...





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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

The SDL needs a new radiator. I probably have a used one around here somewhere 
but wanted to price new ones. I checked importec, fcp, and autohausaz and none 
have a radiator listed. Is this some sort of rare item now days? Seems odd.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I needed one for my 350SDL over the summer.  I got lucky a found a NOS Behr
on ebay by searching for the Behr part number.

I had previously placed an order with radiator express since I knew it was
on its way out, it was back ordered for months.  I finally got a call in
October or November that it had come in.  I told them I didn't want it and
they said they still had a waiting list.  They couldn't get them fast
enough.

I also have a good used one I got from a friend if you need one urgently.
Its one of the updated Behrs with reinforced necks.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225
> ia_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7m
> mPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's one at Radiator
> Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)
>
> I searched for a 91 300SDL
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that
>> runs about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still
>> around.
>>
>> A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper
>> and lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.
>>
>> My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom
>> upper tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.
>>
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7mmPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's 
one at Radiator Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)


I searched for a 91 300SDL

Larry


On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that runs 
about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still around.

A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper and 
lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.

My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom upper 
tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that runs 
about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still around.

A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper and 
lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.

My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom upper 
tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I'm going to drive it for a tank or 2 of fuel and see how it ends up 
afterwards. If it's the same I guess I will locate a different ip to try.

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> On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:47 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> YOu should have kept that POS SDL I sold you oh so long ago.  Engine was 
> fine, IP was trashed.
> 
> My vote at the moment is coked up intake valves or pre-chamber.  Have you 
> removed them and reamed the hell out of them?  Or, it could be the dang auto 
> adjust valve thingies are tired.
> 
> just my WAG
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried diesel purge?  Peter also had an idea - air leak on the lift 
>> pump intake side.  How about a clogged tank strainer?  Have you checked the 
>> timing chain stretch?  Injection pump timing?
>> 
>> Maybe the injection pump is bad?
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On February 2, 2017 8:44:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> It was the same before I did the delivery valves. I did the delivery 
>>> valves seeing if one was messed up.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/2/2017 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
 running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each
>>> injection
 line?
 
 -
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat
>>> shields, and
> delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and
>>> misses at
> times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a
>>> 10
> mile trip to town and back
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[clay via Mercedes]

YOu should have kept that POS SDL I sold you oh so long ago.  Engine was fine, 
IP was trashed.

My vote at the moment is coked up intake valves or pre-chamber.  Have you 
removed them and reamed the hell out of them?  Or, it could be the dang auto 
adjust valve thingies are tired.

just my WAG

clay


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> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried diesel purge?  Peter also had an idea - air leak on the lift 
> pump intake side.  How about a clogged tank strainer?  Have you checked the 
> timing chain stretch?  Injection pump timing?
> 
> Maybe the injection pump is bad?
> -- 
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> '95 E300
> 
> On February 2, 2017 8:44:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
>> It was the same before I did the delivery valves. I did the delivery 
>> valves seeing if one was messed up.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/2/2017 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
>>> running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each
>> injection
>>> line?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat
>> shields, and
 delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and
>> misses at
 times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a
>> 10
 mile trip to town and back
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Highly doubt it's got a plugged fuel tank strainer. Will check for air leaks. I 
have not checked timing or chain stretch but I can say car has plenty of power, 
just the miss at idle. 

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> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried diesel purge?  Peter also had an idea - air leak on the lift 
> pump intake side.  How about a clogged tank strainer?  Have you checked the 
> timing chain stretch?  Injection pump timing?
> 
> Maybe the injection pump is bad?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On February 2, 2017 8:44:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> It was the same before I did the delivery valves. I did the delivery 
>> valves seeing if one was messed up.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/2/2017 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
>>> running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each
>> injection
>>> line?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat
>> shields, and
 delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and
>> misses at
 times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a
>> 10
 mile trip to town and back
 
 https://youtu.be/WARh01q3BNI
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Have you tried diesel purge?  Peter also had an idea - air leak on the lift 
pump intake side.  How about a clogged tank strainer?  Have you checked the 
timing chain stretch?  Injection pump timing?

Maybe the injection pump is bad?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 2, 2017 8:44:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>It was the same before I did the delivery valves. I did the delivery 
>valves seeing if one was messed up.
>
>
>On 2/2/2017 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
>> running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each
>injection
>> line?
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat
>shields, and
>>> delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and
>misses at
>>> times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a
>10
>>> mile trip to town and back
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/WARh01q3BNI
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It was the same before I did the delivery valves. I did the delivery 
valves seeing if one was messed up.



On 2/2/2017 6:25 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each injection
line?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat shields, and
delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and misses at
times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a 10
mile trip to town and back

https://youtu.be/WARh01q3BNI

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

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Make sure you don't have an air leak in the suction side of the lift pump 
(plastic filter and fuel pre-heater).  Air getting in will cause all sorts of 
idle problems and eventually hard starts.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd say you messed up the delivery valves.  Can you isolate the rough
running to which valve(s) might be the culprit by cracking each injection
line?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have driven the car about 100 miles since new nozzles, heat shields, and
> delivery valve seals and it still runs like crap when cold and misses at
> times even after fully warm. This is how it was idling today after a 10
> mile trip to town and back
>
> https://youtu.be/WARh01q3BNI
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is why I have a stockpile of supposedly "good" used type 3 acc
pushbutton modules for my 123 wagon.

On Dec 8, 2016 1:11 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Ralph, et al.

Speaking of heater blower motors not working.

My blower motor went south during the trip to the ChowdahQ this year and I
just found out the cure.

The "0" button did not quite snap out to the rest position when any of the
other buttons were pressed.

When I finally noticed that error, a few cycles of the buttons worked their
magic, e viola! air movement!

Simple minded fix for the idiot in charge.

YMMV

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: 08 December 2016 06:33
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Ralph,'84TD
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;
should I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that
works mainly on European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that
gave me my latest input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment
needed, but he did determine that the wiring was done incorrectly and fixed
that for me first.I was advised that the compressor did have sufficient
refrigeration to actually run, but just wasn't, and that seems to fit into
the klima issue.  Thanks
Ralph '87 SDL
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Ralph, et al.

Speaking of heater blower motors not working.

My blower motor went south during the trip to the ChowdahQ this year and I just 
found out the cure.

The "0" button did not quite snap out to the rest position when any of the 
other buttons were pressed.

When I finally noticed that error, a few cycles of the buttons worked their 
magic, e viola! air movement!

Simple minded fix for the idiot in charge.

YMMV

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: 08 December 2016 06:33
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Cc: Ralph,'84TD
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;  should 
I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that works mainly on 
European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that gave me my latest 
input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment needed, but he did determine 
that the wiring was done incorrectly and fixed that for me first.I was advised 
that the compressor did have sufficient refrigeration to actually run, but just 
wasn't, and that seems to fit into the klima issue.  Thanks
Ralph '87 SDL
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ralph,

What you need is a shop that has the wiring diagrams for your car, and as
Dan said a DC Voltmeter, and then the skill to combine both in order to
perform some tests and determine the problem.

An MB (or European) specialist should be faster (less shop time, maybe less
$$$) because they already would be aware of KLIMA relay issues and how to
test the typical failure modes.



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Charleston SC

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;
>  should I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that
> works mainly on European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that
> gave me my latest input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment
> needed, but he did determine that the wiring was done incorrectly and fixed
> that for me first.I was advised that the compressor did have sufficient
> refrigeration to actually run, but just wasn't, and that seems to fit into
> the klima issue.  Thanks
> Ralph '87 SDL
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>  On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem
> > after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I
> > have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out,
> > but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I
> > have power at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is
> > sufficient pressure at the compressor to have it run, but it is not
> > receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C
> > specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this forum might have an
> > idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should go to a garage
> > that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300
> > CD
>
>
> Which car? Where?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There is nothing specialized about the system on this car that would require 
unique or unusual equipment. Any come tent AC shop can work on it if they are 
willing.

If this is for your SDL then there is no evaporator cutoff switch as I 
previously described - that would be present in your W123 or a Gen I W126.

As others have suggested, I'm betting your KLIMA relay is faulty, as this would 
be a pretty typical failure for a car of this vintage.  There are some readily 
available very simple diagnostic procedures to test for a faulty KLIMA that 
require nothing more than a DC voltmeter.

Dan

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> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;  
> should I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that works 
> mainly on European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that gave me 
> my latest input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment needed, but he 
> did determine that the wiring was done incorrectly and fixed that for me 
> first.I was advised that the compressor did have sufficient refrigeration to 
> actually run, but just wasn't, and that seems to fit into the klima issue.  
> Thanks
> Ralph '87 SDL 
> 
>On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem
>> after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I
>> have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out,
>> but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I
>> have power at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is
>> sufficient pressure at the compressor to have it run, but it is not
>> receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C
>> specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this forum might have an
>> idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should go to a garage
>> that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300
>> CD
> 
> 
> Which car? Where?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes]

It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;  should 
I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that works mainly on 
European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that gave me my latest 
input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment needed, but he did determine 
that the wiring was done incorrectly and fixed that for me first.I was advised 
that the compressor did have sufficient refrigeration to actually run, but just 
wasn't, and that seems to fit into the klima issue.  Thanks
Ralph '87 SDL 

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 

 On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem
> after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I
> have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out,
> but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I
> have power at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is
> sufficient pressure at the compressor to have it run, but it is not
> receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C
> specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this forum might have an
> idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should go to a garage
> that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300
> CD


Which car? Where?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Pretty easy, acutally.

Check for voltage at the low pressure switch and a ground on one side  
-- the PBCU grounds the signal from the Klima relay to switch the  
compressor on.


If you have voltage and a ground, the relay is bad (usually cracked  
solder on the actual relay) OR the low pressure switch is open.


If you have no voltage, the KLIMA has disconnected the compressor for  
some reason.


If you have voltage on one wire and a ground on the other, short the  
wires.  If the compressor engages, the low pressure switch is bad.


Pretty much sums it up, it's not that hard.  Problem today with shops  
is that everything is digital and no one knows how to troubleshoot a  
system that is not self-diagnostic.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a fool's errand to repair a blower motor in a W123.  Simply buy a used
one for $40 and swap it in.  Better yet, get two.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your
> blower motor is located, I would take a look at the compressor cut out
> switch that's located on the heater box. It's a thermal switch with a
> capillary tube that extends into the heater/evaporator box.
>
> If you look under the passenger side dash where your blower motor is
> located, just look to the left and you'll see a couple of wires going to
> what appears to be a block of fuzzy insulation like material.
>
> You can jumper or short these wires together to see if your compressor
> will engage. It's in series with the low pressure switch, I believe, so
> you'll need to be sure you have a fully charged system.
>
> Dan
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem
> after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have
> trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the
> garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power
> at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is sufficient pressure
> at the compressor to have it run, but it is not receiving any power.  This
> garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C specialist.  I thought that
> perhaps someone in this forum might have an idea on where to look for this
> problem.  I feel I should go to a garage that specializes in foreign cars
> like the M.B.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Ralph,

Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your 
blower motor is located, I would take a look at the compressor cut out switch 
that's located on the heater box. It's a thermal switch with a capillary tube 
that extends into the heater/evaporator box.

If you look under the passenger side dash where your blower motor is located, 
just look to the left and you'll see a couple of wires going to what appears to 
be a block of fuzzy insulation like material.

You can jumper or short these wires together to see if your compressor will 
engage. It's in series with the low pressure switch, I believe, so you'll need 
to be sure you have a fully charged system.

Dan

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> wrote:
> 
> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after the 
> wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have trouble with 
> my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the garage cannot find 
> what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power at the fuse, but 
> nothing at the compressor.  There is sufficient pressure at the compressor to 
> have it run, but it is not receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  
> Referred me to an A/C specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this 
> forum might have an idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should 
> go to a garage that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1  Max beat me to it, and said it well.  On my cars, KLIMA has always 
been the failure.  There is a place in FL who sells rebuilt Klima 
relays.  You can pull the klime and jump two terminals in the socket to 
test if this is the problem.  I use 12 ga solid copper house wire for 
making the jumper.


I've had 7 or so Klima equipped cars.  If the refrigerant has not leaked 
out, the problem has always been the KLIMA relay.  Herr Doktor never had 
a Klima fail.  Go figger!

Max Dillon via Mercedes 
December 7, 2016 at 1:56 PM
Assuming this is the SDL. Sounds like the serpentine belt saving 
feature, which cuts the compressor clutch power signal, is the issue.


In the KLIMA relay, the circuitry compares the compressor speed (from 
a sensor on the back of the compressor) to the engine speed, and if 
they are too far apart, no power is supplied to the compressor clutch.


Could be bad KLIMA relay, bad AC compressor speed sensor, bad 
tachometer speed sensor, bad wiring, bad fuse, bad HVAC push-button 
controller unit, bad engine control computer (tach signal goes through 
computer for distro to tachometer and KLIMA relay), bad clutch. All 
need to be tested and the problem(s) found and fixed.

Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes 
December 7, 2016 at 1:35 PM
I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem 
after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I 
have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, 
but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me 
I have power at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is 
sufficient pressure at the compressor to have it run, but it is not 
receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an 
A/C specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this forum might 
have an idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should go to 
a garage that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B.

Ralph '87 300SDL  '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Assuming this is the SDL.  Sounds like the serpentine belt saving feature, 
which cuts the compressor clutch power signal, is the issue.

In the KLIMA relay, the circuitry compares the compressor speed (from a sensor 
on the back of the compressor) to the engine speed, and if they are too far 
apart, no power is supplied to the compressor clutch.

Could be bad KLIMA relay, bad AC compressor speed sensor, bad tachometer speed 
sensor, bad wiring, bad fuse, bad HVAC push-button controller unit, bad engine 
control computer (tach signal goes through computer for distro to tachometer 
and KLIMA relay), bad clutch.  All need to be tested and the problem(s) found 
and fixed.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is a very specific ordered and detailed yet simple test for checking this 
in the manual. If your shop has no clue what the cause is then they have no 
clue. Is this the same shop that reversed the wiring?  To answer your question 
the problem is most likely the klima relay, could be the pbu, test will tell you

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> wrote: 
> 
> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after the 
> wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have trouble with 
> my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the garage cannot find 
> what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power at the fuse, but 
> nothing at the compressor.  There is sufficient pressure at the compressor to 
> have it run, but it is not receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  
> Referred me to an A/C specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this 
> forum might have an idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should 
> go to a garage that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Where are you  Ralph?  Let us find you a DECENT mechanic.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after
> the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have trouble
> with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the garage
> cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power at the
> fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is sufficient pressure at the
> compressor to have it run, but it is not receiving any power.  This garage
> cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C specialist.  I thought that perhaps
> someone in this forum might have an idea on where to look for this
> problem.  I feel I should go to a garage that specializes in foreign cars
> like the M.B.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem
> after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I
> have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out,
> but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I
> have power at the fuse, but nothing at the compressor.  There is
> sufficient pressure at the compressor to have it run, but it is not
> receiving any power.  This garage cannot fix it.  Referred me to an A/C
> specialist.  I thought that perhaps someone in this forum might have an
> idea on where to look for this problem.  I feel I should go to a garage
> that specializes in foreign cars like the M.B. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300
> CD


Which car? Where?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

At most sales like this, auctions, and the charity auction things they are 
usually frequented by people who know nothing about mb and they bid up the 
thing they are with all these 10s of thousands of dollars and they are not, so 
they think they get a good deal. I saw a 82 300sd with a bad transmission sell 
for over $4k several years ago for example. 

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> On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:59 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is definitely mold and not dust. Notice the mold on the "sides" of the 
> seats, dust would not hang there. Also, why say less than 110K when the 
> speedo shows 112K + miles? It's probably been stored under a tarp or cover 
> that caused it to collect moisture and thus the mold. It is humid here in the 
> ATL area and things do mold. I sent them an email about the car. They may 
> correct the ad. If this is really an estate sale, the first person to offer 
> them their price gets the car. If they let you buy it early, they aren't a 
> reputable estate sale firm. I've stood in line with others on several 
> occasions to get into estate sales. First come, first buys the item. I've 
> seen other MBs at estate sales and it's hard to predict whether they'll get a 
> good price or not. They tend to be overpriced as the estate sale is for an 
> old couple and "sympathy" raises the price. I've yet to see one I wanted. 
> Most of the time it's really old folks who have caused lots of nicks and 
> scrapes on the exterior an
 d haven't cared for the car mechanically. So, what works or doesn't is a good 
guess. As with estate sales as opposed to auctions, you don't get to "preview" 
the items in person to thoroughly check their condition...another reason I 
don't buy mechanical items at estate sales. 
> Just some thoughts... 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
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> 770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

This is definitely mold and not dust. Notice the mold on the "sides" of the 
seats, dust would not hang there. Also, why say less than 110K when the speedo 
shows 112K + miles? It's probably been stored under a tarp or cover that caused 
it to collect moisture and thus the mold. It is humid here in the ATL area and 
things do mold. I sent them an email about the car. They may correct the ad. If 
this is really an estate sale, the first person to offer them their price gets 
the car. If they let you buy it early, they aren't a reputable estate sale 
firm. I've stood in line with others on several occasions to get into estate 
sales. First come, first buys the item. I've seen other MBs at estate sales and 
it's hard to predict whether they'll get a good price or not. They tend to be 
overpriced as the estate sale is for an old couple and "sympathy" raises the 
price. I've yet to see one I wanted. Most of the time it's really old folks who 
have caused lots of nicks and scrapes on the exterior and 
 haven't cared for the car mechanically. So, what works or doesn't is a good 
guess. As with estate sales as opposed to auctions, you don't get to "preview" 
the items in person to thoroughly check their condition...another reason I 
don't buy mechanical items at estate sales. 
Just some thoughts... 
Roger 
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Monroe, Ga. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

White coating is probably dust..  I stored my 111 coupe in a friend's
garage where they were doing construction that involved wrecking concrete.
Despite it being under a cover the car was choked with dust everywhere.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I suspect no one is hiding anything, they’re just not well educated about
> it.
>
> Right along with the “bulletproof glass” statements you see about the W140
> laminated glass.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't like the looks of this car.  If they get the year wrong what else
> > are they hiding?
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I would be all over it if I was closer or had a way to buy it and go get
> >> it. Do they have online bidding or anything like that?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Its an 86 or 87.
> >>>
> >>> People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if
> they
> >>> have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only
> >> 100k
> >>> miles!
> >>>
> >>> Jaime
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>   wrote:
> 
> > I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
> 
>  It does, doesn't it?
> 
>  The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can
> it?
> 
>  Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
> 
> 
>  Craig
> 
> 
> >> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
> 
> >>
> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I suspect no one is hiding anything, they’re just not well educated about it.

Right along with the “bulletproof glass” statements you see about the W140 
laminated glass.

Dan


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't like the looks of this car.  If they get the year wrong what else
> are they hiding?
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would be all over it if I was closer or had a way to buy it and go get
>> it. Do they have online bidding or anything like that?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its an 86 or 87.
>>> 
>>> People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
>>> have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only
>> 100k
>>> miles!
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
 
 It does, doesn't it?
 
 The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?
 
 Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
 
 
 Craig
 
 
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
 
>> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:43:40 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Its an 86 or 87.
> 
> People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if
> they have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.
> Only 100k miles!

You're thinking the white stuff inside is mold?

It is on the outside, too, and some of the other items, like 26 and 54.


Craig



> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
> >
> > It does, doesn't it?
> >
> > The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can
> > it?
> >
> > Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > > On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
> > > >
> > https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I don't like the looks of this car.  If they get the year wrong what else
are they hiding?

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would be all over it if I was closer or had a way to buy it and go get
> it. Do they have online bidding or anything like that?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Its an 86 or 87.
> >
> > People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
> > have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only
> 100k
> > miles!
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
> >>
> >> It does, doesn't it?
> >>
> >> The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?
> >>
> >> Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>
>  On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
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>  Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I would be all over it if I was closer or had a way to buy it and go get it. Do 
they have online bidding or anything like that?

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> On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Its an 86 or 87.
> 
> People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
> have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only 100k
> miles!
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
>> 
>> It does, doesn't it?
>> 
>> The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?
>> 
>> Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
>> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

They all differ.  Most common seems to be just make an offer and they take
it.  Its essentially a garage/yard sale.  Some sales take bids on paper and
sell to the highest at the end.   I lost a 1996 Saab 2 stroke by about $50
with this process once:  Very frustrating.

I'd contact the sale people and try to see and buy in advance.

Jaime


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How does this sale work?  do they have prices on stuff, is it an auction
> or what?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 2/20/16 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Its an 86 or 87.
>>
>> People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
>> have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only
>> 100k
>> miles!
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.

>>> It does, doesn't it?
>>>
>>> The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?
>>>
>>> Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
>
>
>>> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

How does this sale work?  do they have prices on stuff, is it an auction 
or what?


--R

On 2/20/16 11:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Its an 86 or 87.

People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only 100k
miles!

Jaime


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.

It does, doesn't it?

The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?

Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.


Craig



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 wrote:

Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:


https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

This car appears to be covered in mold which is not good for the interior or 
the exterior underneath. Also, I thought the SDL was only made in 86 and 87 in 
the 300, then it went to the 350 later. Seems like there are unanswered 
questions about this car. If it's really badged correctly, then it's an 86 or 
87 and with only 112K miles, it's been sitting a lot which isn't good for 
diesels. Still...might make a good project car. 
Just sayin.. 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Its an 86 or 87.

People are generally terrified of cars that have sat.  Especially if they
have mold inside like this one.  I think it can be easily saved.  Only 100k
miles!

Jaime


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wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.
>
> It does, doesn't it?
>
> The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?
>
> Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > > On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
> > >
> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:03:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.

It does, doesn't it?

The page says the 300SDL is a 1983, but that cannot be possible, can it?

Besides, it's black like yours, Dan.


Craig

 
> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
> > https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in Atlanta

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t know… that toaster looks pretty cool, too.

Dan


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone in the area?  I'd be all over this:
> https://www.estatesales.net/GA/Atlanta/30344/1116510?highlight=MERCEDES+Mercedes
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[WILTON via Mercedes]

BS!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter


BTW yesterday on my FB feed I got an advert for URO parts for Mercedes.  
It was touting how great they were, etc.


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It turned out to be URO, no MB Star, I didn't buy it...



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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That show up once in a while on mine too. I almost left a nasty comment... next 
time I will.


Rick 
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BTW yesterday on my FB feed I got an advert for URO parts for Mercedes. 
It was touting how great they were, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I heard that URO wanted to be a sponsor on BenzWorld but some members got wind 
of it and threw a fit, so they told them "No".

Dan no URO is good URO

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> On Dec 16, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> That show up once in a while on mine too. I almost left a nasty comment... 
> next time I will.
> 
> 
> Rick 
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> BTW yesterday on my FB feed I got an advert for URO parts for Mercedes. 
> It was touting how great they were, etc.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In  30+ years of driving a variety of Mercedes diesels (listed below), I
have yet to replace a main radiator hose - upper or lower.  They simply
last FOREVER.

1976 W115 300D
1980 W123 300D
1983 300TD x 2
1985 300TD

The '85 has a hairline crack and slow coolant leak from the lower plastic
portion of the radiator.  My tech says not to take my spare used radiator
to a rad shop for testing, as they might somehow screw it up.  Opinions?

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Autohaus regularly lists parts they don't actually have. I waited a month
> for them to admit they didn't actually have and weren't going to get a
> radiator for my '84 190D.
> Rusty got me one the very next day.
> With Autohaus I always call and ask the person on the phone to actually
> put his or her hand on the item so I know they've really got it and it was
> made by who they said it was made by. They tried to sell me a "Genuine
> Mercedes" lower radiator hose for that same 190D. It turned out to be URO,
> no MB Star, I didn't buy it...
> -Curt
>   From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:04 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter
>
>
>
> > On December 15, 2015 at 10:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive
> tonight but
> > probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and make a 124
> radiator work
>
> That $729 custom all aluminum job looks like the bee's knees, but if he
> doesn't
> want to spend that much, it looks like the Nissens is available again.
> Here's the link Curly provided last week.
>
>
> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?partnumber=1265003503_source=google_medium=nonpaid_campaign=frooglePN_term=W0133-1599235=W0133-1599235=CMWLx7fD2ckCFUskgQod9g4BNA
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

BTW yesterday on my FB feed I got an advert for URO parts for Mercedes.  
It was touting how great they were, etc.


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It turned out to be URO, no MB Star, I didn't buy it...



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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Autohaus regularly lists parts they don't actually have. I waited a month for 
them to admit they didn't actually have and weren't going to get a radiator for 
my '84 190D. 
Rusty got me one the very next day.
With Autohaus I always call and ask the person on the phone to actually put his 
or her hand on the item so I know they've really got it and it was made by who 
they said it was made by. They tried to sell me a "Genuine Mercedes" lower 
radiator hose for that same 190D. It turned out to be URO, no MB Star, I didn't 
buy it...
-Curt
  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter
   


> On December 15, 2015 at 10:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive tonight but
> probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and make a 124 radiator work

That $729 custom all aluminum job looks like the bee's knees, but if he doesn't
want to spend that much, it looks like the Nissens is available again. 
Here's the link Curly provided last week. 

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?partnumber=1265003503_source=google_medium=nonpaid_campaign=frooglePN_term=W0133-1599235=W0133-1599235=CMWLx7fD2ckCFUskgQod9g4BNA

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have purchased from Autohaus a few times, but made sure the parts were what 
they specified brand-wise. I have seen a number of times over on the BenzWorld 
forums where they have done the URO swap and people were pissed. Seems like 
they are doing a better job identifying the source now.

My beef with Autohaus is their "in stock ships today (or no later than 
tomorrow)" claims. I had a couple of instances where they didn't ship until the 
next day on a part I needed ASAP and paid for expedited shipping.  The second 
time I did it I called and tried to pin them down. Seems that my part was at a 
"remote warehouse" and wouldn't ship until the next day.

This means they're probably using someone to drop ship stuff for them like 
everyone else.

I will say they do a good job with little fiddly stuff that MB rapes you on, 
like copper washers for valve cover bolts or oil tube O rings.

Dan

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> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Autohaus regularly lists parts they don't actually have. I waited a month for 
> them to admit they didn't actually have and weren't going to get a radiator 
> for my '84 190D. 
> Rusty got me one the very next day.
> With Autohaus I always call and ask the person on the phone to actually put 
> his or her hand on the item so I know they've really got it and it was made 
> by who they said it was made by. They tried to sell me a "Genuine Mercedes" 
> lower radiator hose for that same 190D. It turned out to be URO, no MB Star, 
> I didn't buy it...
> -Curt
>  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter
> 
> 
> 
>> On December 15, 2015 at 10:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive tonight 
>> but
>> probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and make a 124 radiator 
>> work
> 
> That $729 custom all aluminum job looks like the bee's knees, but if he 
> doesn't
> want to spend that much, it looks like the Nissens is available again. 
> Here's the link Curly provided last week. 
> 
> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?partnumber=1265003503_source=google_medium=nonpaid_campaign=frooglePN_term=W0133-1599235=W0133-1599235=CMWLx7fD2ckCFUskgQod9g4BNA
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive tonight but 
probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and make a 124 radiator work

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> On Dec 15, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> which w124 radiators can be made to fit the sdl ?  Only 88 or newer w124 300d 
> (only) ? Till what year?Why won't  1987 w124 with the same 6 cylinder diesel 
> motor work?   Thanks to all for your suggestions and advice.  Ron Courcy  
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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Ron:

I believe the later models used the same radiator as the 87 W124, but  
you have to change the lower radiator support and get the transmission  
cooler lines as it's a side flow, not a downflow.


There is an aftermarket radiator available (expensive), and and custom  
radiator shop can make one for you, also expensive, but you can get it  
to fit that way.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

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> On December 15, 2015 at 10:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive tonight but
> probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and make a 124 radiator work

That $729 custom all aluminum job looks like the bee's knees, but if he doesn't
want to spend that much, it looks like the Nissens is available again. 
Here's the link Curly provided last week. 

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?partnumber=1265003503_source=google_medium=nonpaid_campaign=frooglePN_term=W0133-1599235=W0133-1599235=CMWLx7fD2ckCFUskgQod9g4BNA

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

And I posted the link to the one at autohausaz.com

I sent a link the other day for the proper 126 part. Was expensive 
tonight but probably cheaper than buying all the parts to try and 
make a 124 radiator work


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 On Dec 15, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 which w124 radiators can be made to fit the sdl ?  Only 88 or 
newer w124 300d (only) ? Till what year?Why won't  1987 w124 with 
the same 6 cylinder diesel motor work?   Thanks to all for your 
suggestions and advice.  Ron Courcy

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

which w124 radiators can be made to fit the sdl ?  Only 88 or newer 
w124 300d (only) ? Till what year?Why won't  1987 w124 with the same 
6 cylinder diesel motor work?   Thanks to all for your suggestions 
and advice.  Ron Courcy			  


Just buy an SDL radiator.  Among others, autohauseaz.com has them for 
around $200.  If you want a used one, I can get you a used one.


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiators

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Must still be a decent demand for radiators for cars nearly 30 years  
old.


I still think the W126 is about the best car Benz ever made,  
especially the diesel.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiators

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep; 'was greatly disappointed when my '91 350SDL crapped out - the best 
driving, best riding car I've seen.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiators



Must still be a decent demand for radiators for cars nearly 30 years  old.

I still think the W126 is about the best car Benz ever made,  especially 
the diesel.


Peter

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