Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Alert Emails

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:58:20 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Just a reminder, folks, if you try to send something to the list and
> you get an alert email telling you it was too big or something to that
> effect, drop me a note and I’ll approve it. Otherwise this stuff sits
> in the byte bucket and ends up coming through well after it was sent.
> 
> Thank you!

You can also make sure your outgoing email is less than 1040 kB. More
than once I have had an outgoing email larger than that and got the alert
email. Cancelling the alert, editing the email, and resending took care
of the problem. (Besides fmiser doesn't have the high-speed Internet
others of us do.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Alert Emails

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

thanks Dan

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 7:59 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just a reminder, folks, if you try to send something to the list and you
> get an alert email telling you it was too big or something to that effect,
> drop me a note and I’ll approve it. Otherwise this stuff sits in the byte
> bucket and ends up coming through well after it was sent.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Dan/ListMom
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ditto to exponent infinity.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 1:28 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Second that !
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all your work over the years Kaleb. If you would like help
> with
> > expenses just put out the word.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not allowed on
> > > the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day long
> > > but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is fine.  It
> > > is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
> > > problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new list
> > > for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
> > > there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY intended
> to
> > > be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
> > > have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
> > > comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc.  I thought
> > > we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
> > > conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
> > > opposite effect.
> > >
> > > I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own pocket.
> > > If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just shut the
> > > whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to act
> like
> > > a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
> > >
> > > -The list owner AKA Big Hitler
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Second that !

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all your work over the years Kaleb. If you would like help with
> expenses just put out the word.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not allowed on
> > the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day long
> > but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is fine.  It
> > is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
> > problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new list
> > for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
> > there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY intended to
> > be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
> > have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
> > comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc.  I thought
> > we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
> > conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
> > opposite effect.
> >
> > I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own pocket.
> > If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just shut the
> > whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to act like
> > a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
> >
> > -The list owner AKA Big Hitler
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Thanks for all your work over the years Kaleb. If you would like help with
expenses just put out the word.





On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not allowed on
> the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day long
> but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is fine.  It
> is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
> problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new list
> for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
> there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY intended to
> be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
> have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
> comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc.  I thought
> we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
> conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
> opposite effect.
>
> I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own pocket.
> If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just shut the
> whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to act like
> a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
>
> -The list owner AKA Big Hitler
>
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

We are all somewhat uptight about coronavirus whether we admit it or not. We 
might say things and do things that irritate other members as a result. When 
controversies arise, we should keep that in mind.
Gerry...my 2 cents 

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not allowed on 
> the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day long 
> but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is fine.  It 
> is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant 
> problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new list 
> for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that, 
> there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY intended to 
> be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some 
> have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide 
> comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc.  I thought 
> we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal 
> conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the 
> opposite effect.
> 
> I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own pocket.  
> If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just shut the 
> whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to act like 
> a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
> 
> -The list owner AKA Big Hitler
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

That too is a survival skill.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> fmiser via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 2:57 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: fmiser 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner
> 
> > Scott wrote:
> 
> > Concerning the pandemic, it is telling us a lot about what works and
> > what doesn't.  That may sound cold but I was trained as a mishap
> > investigator (among other things).
> 
> Will we learn from it?  So that if there is something that is actually 
> dangerous
> and contagious we might respond correctly?
> 
> Sadly, history of humans suggests the answer is "no".
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Scott wrote:

> Concerning the pandemic, it is telling us a lot about what works
> and what doesn't.  That may sound cold but I was trained as a
> mishap investigator (among other things).

Will we learn from it?  So that if there is something that is
actually dangerous and contagious we might respond correctly?

Sadly, history of humans suggests the answer is "no".

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

OT messages are fine with me.  Otherwise I would have little interest in this 
list because most posts address cars much newer (or older) than my 82 SD.  I 
would plead for descriptive subject lines when able.

Concerning the pandemic, it is telling us a lot about what works and what 
doesn't.  That may sound cold but I was trained as a mishap investigator (among 
other things).

> -Original Message-
> From:  Andrew Strasfogel 
> 
> I posted that off topic article only to let people know about the spread of
> coronavirus into areas where some list members live.. That being said, I am
> pretty shocked that the pandemic has been so politicized. It's in all of our
> interests to know who is getting sick and where, so we can protect ourselves
> and our families.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It's political because people are getting very hurt economically by
layoffs and losing businesses, watching their retirement savings
evaporate, wondering if they are going to lose their house, and all the
while and listening to hysterical reporting and statements by people who
have no medical or epidemiological training and don't seem to have any
perspective.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> I posted that off topic article only to let people know about the spread of
> coronavirus into areas where some list members live.. That being said, I am
> pretty shocked that the pandemic has been so politicized. It's in all of
> our interests to know who is getting sick and where, so we can protect
> ourselves and our families.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 10:27 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> That's racisss!
>>
>> Mar 27, 2020 9:54:46 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :
>>
>> > Kaleb typed, “titty babies”.
>> >
>> > Bob R
>> >
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I posted that off topic article only to let people know about the spread of
coronavirus into areas where some list members live.. That being said, I am
pretty shocked that the pandemic has been so politicized. It's in all of
our interests to know who is getting sick and where, so we can protect
ourselves and our families.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 10:27 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's racisss!
>
> Mar 27, 2020 9:54:46 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :
>
> > Kaleb typed, “titty babies”.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's racisss!

Mar 27, 2020 9:54:46 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :

> Kaleb typed, “titty babies”.
>
> Bob R
>

Max Dillon
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Kaleb typed, “titty babies”. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> With strictly MB only topics the list will die.  Politics is such a hot 
> topic now days is such a hot topic and nobody can agree on everything.  It is 
> just best to keep the harmony and keep it off the list.
> 
>> On 3/27/2020 8:34 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Kaleb,
>> I so  appreciate your support of the lists,over the years. It is no secret 
>> that since i joined in 2002 i have argued for a MB only list. I am willing 
>> to expand to other automotive topics  but not spring break in FL or politics.
>> My $0.02
>> Dwight
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 2005 E320 4matic
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not
>>allowed on
>>the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day
>>long
>>but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is
>>fine.  It
>>is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
>>problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new
>>list
>>for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
>>there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY
>>intended to
>>be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
>>have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
>>comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc. I
>>thought
>>we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
>>conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
>>opposite effect.
>> 
>>I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own
>>pocket.
>>If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just
>>shut the
>>whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to
>>act like
>>a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
>> 
>>-The list owner AKA Big Hitler
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

With strictly MB only topics the list will die.  Politics is such a hot 
topic now days is such a hot topic and nobody can agree on everything.  
It is just best to keep the harmony and keep it off the list.


On 3/27/2020 8:34 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Kaleb,
I so  appreciate your support of the lists,over the years. It is no 
secret that since i joined in 2002 i have argued for a MB only list. I 
am willing to expand to other automotive topics  but not spring break 
in FL or politics.

My $0.02
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not
allowed on
the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day
long
but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is
fine.  It
is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new
list
for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY
intended to
be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc. I
thought
we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
opposite effect.

I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own
pocket.
If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just
shut the
whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to
act like
a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.

-The list owner AKA Big Hitler


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN message from the owner

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
I so  appreciate your support of the lists,over the years. It is no secret
that since i joined in 2002 i have argued for a MB only list. I am willing
to expand to other automotive topics  but not spring break in FL or
politics.
My $0.02
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let me clear up a few things here.  Political topics are not allowed on
> the MB list.  I would love to talk about my love for Trump all day long
> but it is not happening here.  Just about any other topic is fine.  It
> is NOT a MB only talk list, never has been.  Due to the constant
> problems with political posts coming up, I decided to create a new list
> for those sorts of conversations.  We used to have a list like that,
> there was no traffic so I deleted it.  Okietalk is in NO WAY intended to
> be a replacement for the MB list.  It seems for some reason that some
> have the idea that this is the case.  I am disgusted with the snide
> comments as of late about MB being a cabinets only list etc.  I thought
> we were bigger than this.  I thought this new list would allow normal
> conversation to return to the MB list but it appears to be having the
> opposite effect.
>
> I have hosted these lists for about 15 years now out of my own pocket.
> If it is going to resort to this sort of behavior, I will just shut the
> whole thing down and move on.  If everyone wants to continue to act like
> a bunch of titty babies that is exactly what I will do.
>
> -The list owner AKA Big Hitler
>
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, announcing Okie Talk

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, is Kaleb giving lessons over on this new list on "how to talk like 
an Okie"?


RB

On 22/03/2020 4:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
In the interest of keeping this list free of politics and other 
subjects that might not be in line with our mission of discussion all 
things Mercedes, I have created a separate list for these subjects. It 
is strictly an off topic list with no MB content. This is no way means 
that off topics posts are no longer allowed here.  Quite the contrary, 
business will proceed as usual here. This new list is a place where we 
can talk about politics, guns, viruses, etc.  The only rule for this 
new list is no vulgarity, and respect your fellow list members.  So 
basically, the same rules as here except politics are allowed.  If a 
topic spirals out of control and you do not want to read it, scroll 
on.  Feel free to sign up at the link below and enjoy the new list.


http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/okietalk_okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So did we (get your message).

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:21:29 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > So hopefully people that were not seeing mail before is seeing it now.
> > If this is you, and you get this message, please let us know.
>
> I got this message.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:21:29 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> So hopefully people that were not seeing mail before is seeing it now.
> If this is you, and you get this message, please let us know.

I got this message.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m replying directly to you also to see if it bounces back 

Sent from my iPhone



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> On Jun 22, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks like my feed got shut off again some time in the night. 
> Whoever keeps putting the list on the ban list just puts it back on after 
> Kaleb disputes it off. 
> Did some moron hit the "Spam" button instead of unsubscribing, and did his 
> ISP pass the word around to all the other ISPs?
> I'm thinking of telling 1and1 that I pay them to deliver my mail, not run it 
> through broken filters and throw it away. 
> If you have a bounce message from me, can you forward it to me?
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On June 21, 2018 at 6:21 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A bunch of people were bouncing mail back to us because various (or 
>> maybe just one) ISP had us blacklisted.  I am not sure if it is fixed or 
>> not, but I just went thru the list and turned mail delivery back on for 
>> a bunch of people who had their mail delivery turned off by the system 
>> due to those bounces.
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Looks like my feed got shut off again some time in the night. 
Whoever keeps putting the list on the ban list just puts it back on after Kaleb 
disputes it off. 
Did some moron hit the "Spam" button instead of unsubscribing, and did his ISP 
pass the word around to all the other ISPs?
I'm thinking of telling 1and1 that I pay them to deliver my mail, not run it 
through broken filters and throw it away. 
If you have a bounce message from me, can you forward it to me?
Mitch. 

> On June 21, 2018 at 6:21 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A bunch of people were bouncing mail back to us because various (or 
> maybe just one) ISP had us blacklisted.  I am not sure if it is fixed or 
> not, but I just went thru the list and turned mail delivery back on for 
> a bunch of people who had their mail delivery turned off by the system 
> due to those bounces.

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Here! Strangely I've had no problems...

Curt

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  On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   A bunch of people were bouncing mail 
back to us because various (or 
maybe just one) ISP had us blacklisted.  I am not sure if it is fixed or 
not, but I just went thru the list and turned mail delivery back on for 
a bunch of people who had their mail delivery turned off by the system 
due to those bounces.  So hopefully people that were not seeing mail 
before is seeing it now.  If this is you, and you get this message, 
please let us know.


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Been five-by-five all along, just quiet.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
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> I'm getting messages again.  No idea why this happened.
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I'm getting messages again.  No idea why this happened.


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I received nothing Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday but am back on line now,

Greg 

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:21 PM
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

A bunch of people were bouncing mail back to us because various (or 
maybe just one) ISP had us blacklisted.  I am not sure if it is fixed or 
not, but I just went thru the list and turned mail delivery back on for 
a bunch of people who had their mail delivery turned off by the system 
due to those bounces.  So hopefully people that were not seeing mail 
before is seeing it now.  If this is you, and you get this message, 
please let us know.


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN list messages

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

All good for now. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[as.thompson--- via Mercedes]

Well then obviously the overheating must be due to Global Warming.
A

 

On Feb 26, 2018, Andrew wrote: 
(in answer to the question as to how the new Cab is sorting out)

It is overheating.  He refilled with coal dust rather than wind pellets.


On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:
> Just when things were starting to "heat up". ;
> 
> Just kidding guys... Back to Mercedes... How is that new Cab sorting out 
> Kaleb?
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, and hid the car

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you hide the keys?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I drove the cab to town just a little while ago then parked it in the shop. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did you hide the keys?

-D


> On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I drove the cab to town just a little while ago then parked it in the shop. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I drove the cab to town just a little while ago then parked it in the shop. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 3:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just when things were starting to "heat up". ;
> 
> Just kidding guys... Back to Mercedes... How is that new Cab sorting out
> Kaleb?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The global warming conversation needs to end. No more posts about global
>> warming. Take it to banned.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It is overheating.  He refilled with coal dust rather than wind pellets.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Just when things were starting to "heat up". ;
>
> Just kidding guys... Back to Mercedes... How is that new Cab sorting out
> Kaleb?
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
> > The global warming conversation needs to end. No more posts about global
> > warming. Take it to banned.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, global warming

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just when things were starting to "heat up". ;

Just kidding guys... Back to Mercedes... How is that new Cab sorting out
Kaleb?

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The global warming conversation needs to end. No more posts about global
> warming. Take it to banned.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, the list

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> I think we owe Kaleb a huge debt of gratitude.  Or perhaps something a
> little more tangible...

Andrew chili jam?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Admin, the list

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I think we owe Kaleb a huge debt of gratitude.  Or perhaps something a
little more tangible...

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was able to clear out the admin requests so if you need to resend
> something you can do so now.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for getting it going again, was going through withdrawls.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As everyone has noticed the list has been off and on, mostly off, since
> >> this past weekend. Our host support had to escalate the issue as it was
> >> most likely due to a bug in the list software. Also a factor is a
> massive
> >> amount of admin requests in the que. I have not got an update on the
> ticket
> >> so I can only assume at this point mail coming thru could be interrupted
> >> again, but hopefully the issue is fixed. Up to now I have not been able
> to
> >> even log into the admin page, or purge the requests. I see I can log
> into
> >> the page and will now attempt to clear them out. If it lets me if you
> have
> >> sent anything to the list since this weekend that has needed to be
> >> approved, you will need to send it again. But do not send it again
> until I
> >> follow up with another email letting you know that I got them cleared
> out.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, the list

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I was able to clear out the admin requests so if you need to resend something 
you can do so now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for getting it going again, was going through withdrawls.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As everyone has noticed the list has been off and on, mostly off, since
>> this past weekend. Our host support had to escalate the issue as it was
>> most likely due to a bug in the list software. Also a factor is a massive
>> amount of admin requests in the que. I have not got an update on the ticket
>> so I can only assume at this point mail coming thru could be interrupted
>> again, but hopefully the issue is fixed. Up to now I have not been able to
>> even log into the admin page, or purge the requests. I see I can log into
>> the page and will now attempt to clear them out. If it lets me if you have
>> sent anything to the list since this weekend that has needed to be
>> approved, you will need to send it again. But do not send it again until I
>> follow up with another email letting you know that I got them cleared out.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, the list

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for getting it going again, was going through withdrawls.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As everyone has noticed the list has been off and on, mostly off, since
> this past weekend. Our host support had to escalate the issue as it was
> most likely due to a bug in the list software. Also a factor is a massive
> amount of admin requests in the que. I have not got an update on the ticket
> so I can only assume at this point mail coming thru could be interrupted
> again, but hopefully the issue is fixed. Up to now I have not been able to
> even log into the admin page, or purge the requests. I see I can log into
> the page and will now attempt to clear them out. If it lets me if you have
> sent anything to the list since this weekend that has needed to be
> approved, you will need to send it again. But do not send it again until I
> follow up with another email letting you know that I got them cleared out.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Admin, the mailing lists

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

This is one of the big reasons that trimming quotes is a good idea.  The
bulk of archives ends up spam, spam, spam, spam...

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[MG via Mercedes]

I wouldn't think it could work that way. A teleportation I would 
think would have to be a one to one thing. What comes out at the 
end would and should be exactly the same as what went in at the 
beginning, 100% the same 100% of the time. Otherwise you would 
end up with incremental errors that eventually end up killing the 
transportee due to too many errors to sustain life. This could 
even happen at any time depending on what error is made where if 
any deviation is allowed. Rewriting cancer cells with the same 
type of cells as are around the cancer may cause more problems 
then it cures. Then again maybe not. This is all conjecture and 
wishful thinking anyway.


Manfred

rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
I don't generally join the "what if" and "wishful thinking" discussion. But What if you could be teleported, taken apart and put back together. BUT...what if you have say cancer and the put back together is without the cancer cells? You'd be cured. I don't think time travel is good as too many negative things could happen, but to cure medical problems would seem an excellent cause. 
While we are thinking about possibles 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I would think it would be a forgone conclusion if we developed this technology 
we would have cured cancer by then. One would think anyway. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:44 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't generally join the "what if" and "wishful thinking" discussion. 
> But What if you could be teleported, taken apart and put back together. 
> BUT...what if you have say cancer and the put back together is without the 
> cancer cells? You'd be cured. I don't think time travel is good as too many 
> negative things could happen, but to cure medical problems would seem an 
> excellent cause. 
> While we are thinking about possibles 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

I don't generally join the "what if" and "wishful thinking" discussion. But 
What if you could be teleported, taken apart and put back together. BUT...what 
if you have say cancer and the put back together is without the cancer cells? 
You'd be cured. I don't think time travel is good as too many negative things 
could happen, but to cure medical problems would seem an excellent cause. 
While we are thinking about possibles 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Many years ago I saw a cartoon about teleportation a-la Star Trek. His idea was 
that the teleporter actually made a copy of you, sent the information to the 
remote site which made a new you there, then the original was destroyed.The 
cartoon was hilarious because, what would happen if the original wasn't 
destroyed? There would be two identical yous...
-Curt

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Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz
   
Climate change or the wizards?  

I know there is a bunch of top level science knowledge on this list, and I want 
to know what the heck would really happen with teleportation.  It seems like 
the movies just bypass the reality of what takes place and … Poof!, you get 
Scotty to beam you up.  Driving the W126 pushes a bunch of air.  #1 boy tells 
me that single use teleportation would have no impact.  ie. pulling a blade of 
grass from a lawn does not create a statistically significant change.  But the 
constant yanking of stalks of grass must do something.  A solution posited here 
was that you move in a container.  So, I am poofed in the SDL.  What takes its 
place from where I left, and what of where I land?  Do I need to drive to a 
teleportation station that will provide reciprocal matter transmission?  

Maybe I remove a tablespoon of power steering fluid and put it in the 
transmission.  Do I need to remove the same volume of ATF to put back in the 
steering pump?  The dang movies never show that!  Star Trek has fancy lights 
that shimmer when they teleport.  Is that the O2 in the Enterprise being sent 
to the dead Red shirt on the planet while Kirk and the other guys bring 
xenobacteria back?


OR!  Was it all just there in the beginning with the big bang and will still be 
there when the whole mess falls apart into the constituent sub atomic parts in 
absolute 0 Kelvin?  As it is, the SDL seems on an accelerated pace of entropy 
which I am fighting on a weekly basis.

clay


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just for clarification, subject matter like this that can be construed as 
> political, so it is not considered acceptable here.  Let’s keep it on cars 
> and related subjects.
> 
> If you’re unsure about a topic, run it by Kaleb or myself and we’ll let you 
> know.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -D/ListMom
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
>>> and sea levels are rising.
>> 
>> Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz?
>> Okay, so... not political - we buy that.
>> What can be accomplished?  Am I doing sufficient against what IS by
>> driving cars that have been on the planet for 30+ years as little as
>> possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
>> possible for purposes of commerce?
>> What else can be accomplished against what IS?
>> Seriously.  This is DIY okiebenz.
>> Thanks.
>> tin-man 

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So we are talking about beaming people into the future.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:33 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well 
> as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
> 
> In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a 
> single fate, even when they’re miles apart. 
> 
> Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, 
> called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
> 
> If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum 
> computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.
> 
> “You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the 
> middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University 
> of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
> 
> In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so 
> intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a 
> host of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the 
> other is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and 
> the other changes immediately.
> 
> Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in 
> uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help 
> transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using 
> only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.
> 
> In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and 
> Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same 
> tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the 
> past to the future.
> 
> The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
> intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the 
> other, this logically extends to time as well as space.
> 
> “If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] 
> moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. 
> “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with 
> ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”
> 
> Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam me up” 
> teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet with limited air 
> supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the transporter, awaiting 
> rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades later, Scotty steps out of the 
> machine without having aged a day.
> 
> “It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s like, 
> poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip the intervening 
> time.”
> 
> According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
> Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, it’s 
> “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.
> 
> “It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement is a 
> resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like quantum 
> teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to exploit this new 
> entanglement to do interesting things.”
> 
> One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black holes, 
> said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.
> 
> “They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to store a 
> lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that info from 
> other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have not been worked 
> out, but I can foresee that the ideas that these authors use could be adapted 
> to the black hole context.”
> 
> Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
> fundamentals of particle physics. In the 1970s, physicist Bill Unruh 
> predicted that, if a spaceship accelerates through the empty space of a 
> vacuum, particles should appear to pop out of the void. Particles carry 
> energy, so they would be, in effect, a warm bath. Wave a thermometer outside, 
> and it would record a positive temperature.
> 
> Called the Unruh effect, this is a solid prediction of quantum field theory. 
> It’s never been observed, however, as a spaceship would have to accelerate at 
> as-yet-unrealistic speeds to generate an effect large enough to be testable. 
> But because timelike entanglement also involves particles emerging from 
> vacuums, it could be used to conduct more convenient searches, relying on 
> time rather than space.
> 
> Finding the Unruh effect would provide support for quantum field theory. But 
> it might be even more exciting not to see the effect, Olson 

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

I know that Next Gen episode.  Scotty is trapped in a Dyson Sphere.

So, as it relates to my conundrum, it would not be like Kirk and Spock going 
back to save the Whales, or Picard and NCC 1701 E going back to save Zephram 
Cochran from the Borg.I would have to be entangled on a quantum level to 
teleport to anyplace.  I and the SDL would go POOF! in a manner that deletes 
the original and recreates it in the new location?Does this also satisfy 
the conservation of energy?  I am not really creating or destroying anything.  
It just works?  God is not rolling the dice with the universe?

If I am going to have to deal with wizards or aliens and their comings and 
goings, they are just as likely to be using the flue network as they are to be 
moving backward and returning along the timeline?  That must mean that the cost 
to go next door is much the same as it would be for me to get in the SDL and 
zip back to 1986.  Does the effect…?  Well, it must, if going down the street 
is the same as moving 30 years, I can just show up with the SDL in Dallas in 
1986 as I am to run into Marty McFly in his Delorean at prom with his parents.


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:33 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well 
> as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
> 
> In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a 
> single fate, even when they’re miles apart. 
> 
> Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, 
> called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
> 
> If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum 
> computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.
> 
> “You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the 
> middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University 
> of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
> 
> In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so 
> intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a 
> host of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the 
> other is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and 
> the other changes immediately.
> 
> Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in 
> uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help 
> transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using 
> only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.
> 
> In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and 
> Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same 
> tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the 
> past to the future.
> 
> The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are 
> intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the 
> other, this logically extends to time as well as space.
> 
> “If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] 
> moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. 
> “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with 
> ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”
> 
> Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam me up” 
> teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet with limited air 
> supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the transporter, awaiting 
> rescue. When the Enterprise arrives decades later, Scotty steps out of the 
> machine without having aged a day.
> 
> “It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s like, 
> poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip the intervening 
> time.”
> 
> According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of 
> Nottingham, who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, it’s 
> “one of the most interesting results” published in the last year.
> 
> “It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement is a 
> resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like quantum 
> teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to exploit this new 
> entanglement to do interesting things.”
> 
> One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black holes, 
> said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.
> 
> “They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to store a 
> lot of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that info from 
> other atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have not been worked 
> out, but I can foresee that 

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well 
as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time

In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a single 
fate, even when they’re miles apart. 

Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, 
called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.

If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum 
computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.

“You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the middle 
time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University of 
Queensland, lead author of the new study.

In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so 
intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a host 
of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the other 
is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and the other 
changes immediately.

Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in 
uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help 
transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using 
only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.

In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and 
Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same 
tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the 
past to the future.

The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are intuitive: 
If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the other, this 
logically extends to time as well as space.

“If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] moves 
in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. “There 
really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with ordinary 
entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”

Olson explained them with a Star Trek analogy. In one episode, “beam me up” 
teleportation expert Scotty is stranded on a distant planet with limited air 
supply. To survive, Scotty freezes himself in the transporter, awaiting rescue. 
When the Enterprise arrives decades later, Scotty steps out of the machine 
without having aged a day.

“It’s not time travel as you would ordinarily think of it, where it’s like, 
poof! You’re in the future,” Olson said. “But you get to skip the intervening 
time.”

According to quantum physicist Ivette Fuentes of the University of Nottingham, 
who saw Olson and Ralph present the work at a conference, it’s “one of the most 
interesting results” published in the last year.

“It stimulated our imaginations,” said Fuentes. “We know entanglement is a 
resource and we can do very interesting things with it, like quantum 
teleportation and quantum cryptography. We might be able to exploit this new 
entanglement to do interesting things.”

One such interesting thing could involve storing information in black holes, 
said physicist Jorma Louko, also of the University of Nottingham.

“They show that you can use the vacuum, that no-particle state, to store a lot 
of information in just a couple of atoms, and recover that info from other 
atoms later on,” Louko said. “The details of that have not been worked out, but 
I can foresee that the ideas that these authors use could be adapted to the 
black hole context.”

Entanglement in time could also be used to investigate as-yet-untested 
fundamentals of particle physics. In the 1970s, physicist Bill Unruh predicted 
that, if a spaceship accelerates through the empty space of a vacuum, particles 
should appear to pop out of the void. Particles carry energy, so they would be, 
in effect, a warm bath. Wave a thermometer outside, and it would record a 
positive temperature.

Called the Unruh effect, this is a solid prediction of quantum field theory. 
It’s never been observed, however, as a spaceship would have to accelerate at 
as-yet-unrealistic speeds to generate an effect large enough to be testable. 
But because timelike entanglement also involves particles emerging from 
vacuums, it could be used to conduct more convenient searches, relying on time 
rather than space.

Finding the Unruh effect would provide support for quantum field theory. But it 
might be even more exciting not to see the effect, Olson said.

“It would be more of a shocking result,” Olson said. “If you didn’t see it, 
something would be very wrong with our understanding.”

https://www.wired.com/2011/01/timelike-entanglement/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Quantum Teleportation
Quantum teleportation provides a mechanism of moving a qubit from one 
location to 

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

[clay via Mercedes]

Climate change or the wizards?  

I know there is a bunch of top level science knowledge on this list, and I want 
to know what the heck would really happen with teleportation.  It seems like 
the movies just bypass the reality of what takes place and … Poof!, you get 
Scotty to beam you up.  Driving the W126 pushes a bunch of air.  #1 boy tells 
me that single use teleportation would have no impact.  ie. pulling a blade of 
grass from a lawn does not create a statistically significant change.  But the 
constant yanking of stalks of grass must do something.  A solution posited here 
was that you move in a container.  So, I am poofed in the SDL.  What takes its 
place from where I left, and what of where I land?  Do I need to drive to a 
teleportation station that will provide reciprocal matter transmission?  

Maybe I remove a tablespoon of power steering fluid and put it in the 
transmission.  Do I need to remove the same volume of ATF to put back in the 
steering pump?  The dang movies never show that!  Star Trek has fancy lights 
that shimmer when they teleport.  Is that the O2 in the Enterprise being sent 
to the dead Red shirt on the planet while Kirk and the other guys bring 
xenobacteria back?


OR!  Was it all just there in the beginning with the big bang and will still be 
there when the whole mess falls apart into the constituent sub atomic parts in 
absolute 0 Kelvin?  As it is, the SDL seems on an accelerated pace of entropy 
which I am fighting on a weekly basis.

clay


> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just for clarification, subject matter like this that can be construed as 
> political, so it is not considered acceptable here.  Let’s keep it on cars 
> and related subjects.
> 
> If you’re unsure about a topic, run it by Kaleb or myself and we’ll let you 
> know.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -D/ListMom
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> You don't need "theories" - just look at the data.  The planet IS warming
>>> and sea levels are rising.
>> 
>> Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz?
>> Okay, so... not political - we buy that.
>> What can be accomplished?  Am I doing sufficient against what IS by
>> driving cars that have been on the planet for 30+ years as little as
>> possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as
>> possible for purposes of commerce?
>> What else can be accomplished against what IS?
>> Seriously.  This is DIY okiebenz.
>> Thanks.
>> tin-man 

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Dan.  This is like turning on the lights and startling the
cockroaches.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > Enough.
>
> Me? - did I do dat?
> tin-man
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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:
> Enough.

Me? - did I do dat?
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] Admin, politics on the list

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Thanks.

On Jan 22, 2017 3:45 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The political discussions on the list have gotten out of hand lately. We
never minded them as long as people remained civil but as of late that is
not the case. From this point forward we are banning political discussions
on the list. If it continues folks will be issued a warning, and the next
violation will result in their posts being moderated. If it continues past
that point more drastic measure may be necessary.  Thank you for your
cooperation.

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Re: [MBZ] Admin spam filters

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thnks.

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The host has made adjustments so you should not get the bounced messages 
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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I tried but it bounced

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dwight wrote:
 Ok got it. I don't  pay a lot of attention  to them.

Where do you form your opinions or views?
mao

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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ok got it. I don't  pay a lot of attention  to them.
On Aug 26, 2015 9:05 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
  What's an MSM preacher?

 Main Stream Media = MSM
 preacher is one who speaks but does not listen
 Friends hear / listen and learn to each other.
 mao

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dwight wrote:
 I respectfully  decline your challenge...
...
 Do you still have your 240D?

Yes, I still drive my 240D 3-pedal '84 and our 240D slushbox '83.
I hope we will hear poltics that you might agree here.  I posit that
it is among friends that we learn stuff.  MSM preachers are mere head
bangers and hard to hear, like most preachers.
mao

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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I  miss both my 240D's- the 79 slushbox that went over 300k miles  my
78 stick  that is better known on this list as, the hot head mystery.
What's an MSM preacher?
On Aug 26, 2015 8:37 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
  I respectfully  decline your challenge...
 ...
  Do you still have your 240D?

 Yes, I still drive my 240D 3-pedal '84 and our 240D slushbox '83.
 I hope we will hear poltics that you might agree here.  I posit that
 it is among friends that we learn stuff.  MSM preachers are mere head
 bangers and hard to hear, like most preachers.
 mao

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
 During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
 to know the country pretty well.

That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
the most beautiful in the world...
mao

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dwight wrote:
 What's an MSM preacher?

Main Stream Media = MSM
preacher is one who speaks but does not listen
Friends hear / listen and learn to each other.
mao

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[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

And that history has repeated with the current administration.  Except this
time we surrendered after we won.  We left the vacuum that spawned ISIS. We
set up the Middle East for a nuclear arms race.  At the same time we created
a domestic welfare state with almost half the people living off the rest and
exploding the National debt.  That's not politics, its facts.

MBZ content:  Does anyone know if available 126 suspension rubber is any
good?  Should I replace the 1982 stuff or keep it?

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:56 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN
 
 I'll refine my inner Trump and try not to bend any ones feelings.
 In case I do, I have plenty of internet butt hurt forms so don't worry.
 
 I'm kidding of course. And Mao.. Carter was President when the current
 muslim republic of Iran was formed by the then exiled ayatollah Khomeini,
by
 driving the Shah out of power, who was a friend of America and we did a
lot of
 trade with Iran, under his rule.
 During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
to know
 the country pretty well. It was known then as a center of high fashion and
 culture. The Persian women are among the most beautiful in the world,
 [something I remember, being a young man at that time], who dressed in
 stunning ways in the latest European fashion.. not in hijab and burka like
now.
 
 The Ayatollah and his muslim minions took over the country, seized the
 United States Embassy and held all the occupants hostage for a very long
time.
 Mr Carter was not effective in recovering them, or setting the hostage
takers
 straight. An Embassy is Sovereign Soil, so seizing it is an act of war, by
all
 known rules.. yet nothing was done that made any difference and America
was
 made to appear a weak country, which set the stage for the current
 circumstances. The steps going forward would make a history thesis so I
will
 hold back on those, they are easily found as a matter of record. Terrorist
 demands were made and not dealt with by the office of President in a way
 that marked Mr. Carter forever as weak as a leader.
 
 Mr. Regan  was elected to replace him and announced his plan to recover
the
 hostages who had grown nearly gray while waiting to be rescued, and they
 were released within only a few days of him taking office...which further
 empathized how non preforming Mr. Carter had been.
 
 In the interest of list purity I submit this only to give closure to my
earlier
 comment.. so everyone stand at ease.. nothing further on the subject.
 
 I understand Mr. Carter is given very little chance of survival at this
point. We
 have a remarkable number of former presidents still living. More than ever
in
 history.
 
 On the Mercedes side, I just located TWO complete sets of 15 slot 15 inch
rims,
 while looking for a set for my new CD which is coming into restoration.
So I
 now have 10 each 15 slot, 15 inch rims.. and a bunch of Bundts [so many
I've
 lost count]...17 I think Wheels anyone?
 
 Grant...
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Dan wrote:
   Who woke up Mao? Things getting boring over on the Ritter list?
 
  No.
  I am pushing the edge there too.
  Not really.
  And not really pushing the edge here either.
  I just want us to take note of what we have before some members leave
  and blow this thing up.  Politics does not need to divide.  See the
  gov from OH - he seems to be reasonable and popular.  And Bernie - he
  could be sensible.  I don't like the season.  MSM is tweaking the
  masses.
  mao
 
  
   Dan
  
  
   On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   Dwight wrote:
   That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list
tone.
  
   Okay.
   Are you up for a slight challenge?
   Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
   interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did
   not pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things
   to like about his ways these days.
   I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant
   about Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until
 today.
   My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-***
   ways of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We
   want more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that
   took that
   AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more
   of that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why
   I like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You
   guys have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
   Thanks.
   mao
  
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Who woke up Mao? Things getting boring over on the Ritter list?

Dan


 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dwight wrote:
 That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.
 
 Okay.
 Are you up for a slight challenge?
 Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
 interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
 pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
 about his ways these days.
 I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
 Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
 My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
 of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
 more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
 AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
 that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
 like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
 have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:
 Who woke up Mao? Things getting boring over on the Ritter list?

No.
I am pushing the edge there too.
Not really.
And not really pushing the edge here either.
I just want us to take note of what we have before some members leave
and blow this thing up.  Politics does not need to divide.  See the
gov from OH - he seems to be reasonable and popular.  And Bernie - he
could be sensible.  I don't like the season.  MSM is tweaking the
masses.
mao


 Dan


 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
 That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.

 Okay.
 Are you up for a slight challenge?
 Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
 interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
 pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
 about his ways these days.
 I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
 Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
 My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
 of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
 more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
 AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
 that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
 like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
 have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
 Thanks.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Mao,
I respectfully  decline your challenge- i am not interested in discussing
Carter or any other  political  topic on this list. Do you still have your
240D?
On Aug 25, 2015 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
  That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.

 Okay.
 Are you up for a slight challenge?
 Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
 interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
 pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
 about his ways these days.
 I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
 Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
 My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
 of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
 more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
 AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
 that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
 like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
 have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
 Thanks.
 mao

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[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'll refine my inner Trump and try not to bend any ones feelings.
In case I do, I have plenty of internet butt hurt forms so don't worry.

I'm kidding of course. And Mao.. Carter was President when the current
muslim republic of Iran was formed by the then exiled ayatollah Khomeini,
by driving the Shah out of power, who was a friend of America and we did a
lot of trade with Iran, under his rule.
During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
to know the country pretty well. It was known then as a center of high
fashion and culture. The Persian women are among the most beautiful in the
world, [something I remember, being a young man at that time], who dressed
in stunning ways in the latest European fashion.. not in hijab and burka
like now.

The Ayatollah and his muslim minions took over the country, seized the
United States Embassy and held all the occupants hostage for a very long
time. Mr Carter was not effective in recovering them, or setting the
hostage takers straight. An Embassy is Sovereign Soil, so seizing it is an
act of war, by all known rules.. yet nothing was done that made any
difference and America was made to appear a weak country, which set the
stage for the current circumstances. The steps going forward would make a
history thesis so I will hold back on those, they are easily found as a
matter of record. Terrorist demands were made and not dealt with by the
office of President in a way that marked Mr. Carter forever as weak as a
leader.

Mr. Regan  was elected to replace him and announced his plan to recover the
hostages who had grown nearly gray while waiting to be rescued, and they
were released within only a few days of him taking office...which further
empathized how non preforming Mr. Carter had been.

In the interest of list purity I submit this only to give closure to my
earlier comment.. so everyone stand at ease.. nothing further on the
subject.

I understand Mr. Carter is given very little chance of survival at this
point. We have a remarkable number of former presidents still living. More
than ever in history.

On the Mercedes side, I just located TWO complete sets of 15 slot 15 inch
rims, while looking for a set for my new CD which is coming into
restoration. So I now have 10 each 15 slot, 15 inch rims.. and a bunch of
Bundts [so many I've lost count]...17 I think Wheels anyone?

Grant...


On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Dan wrote:
  Who woke up Mao? Things getting boring over on the Ritter list?

 No.
 I am pushing the edge there too.
 Not really.
 And not really pushing the edge here either.
 I just want us to take note of what we have before some members leave
 and blow this thing up.  Politics does not need to divide.  See the
 gov from OH - he seems to be reasonable and popular.  And Bernie - he
 could be sensible.  I don't like the season.  MSM is tweaking the
 masses.
 mao

 
  Dan
 
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Dwight wrote:
  That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.
 
  Okay.
  Are you up for a slight challenge?
  Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
  interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
  pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
  about his ways these days.
  I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
  Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
  My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
  of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
  more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
  AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
  that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
  like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
  have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
  Thanks.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dwight wrote:
 That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.

Okay.
Are you up for a slight challenge?
Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
about his ways these days.
I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Waving hand frantically - first one who spits on my hand is a rotten egg. 
;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN



OK folks, tone it down.

There has been a fair amount of political discussion here that has been 
civil and respectful.  That’s OK.  Tasteless comments about people, even 
politicians, are right out as are any direct attacks or disrespect to list 
members or anyone else, for that matter.


Yes, Dwight, I would agree.  The comment was more appropriate for Banned, 
however, sometimes we (myself included) tend to be a bit quick on the 
keyboard and are flippant about things better left for other venues.


Play nice, respect the individual (and office, if it applies) and carry 
on, please.


ListMom/Martha/whatever
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - REMINDER

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:13:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have no complaints, as I pretty much go in once a day and just dump
 everything.  I gave up trying to sift through it a while back, as it
 was an exercise in futility.
 
 I just found that if people give me a heads up that they got a hold
 notice I can go in and release their message easily because having a
 time stamp gives me a point of reference.

Just forward the hold notice to Dan ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - REMINDER

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan this is helpful.
On Jun 24, 2015 10:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Just a friendly reminder from the ListMom:

 If you get a hold notice because of an attachment, message being too big,
 etc., please drop me a note directly and let me know.

 I ask because the amount of spam we get hit with on a daily basis is
 staggering, and if something is in the queue from a subscriber there’s
 nothing that makes it stand out, meaning I have to sift through literally
 hundreds of messages about male enhancement, parts suppliers, Nigerian
 bankers, etc., etc., etc., before I can find your message and approve it.

 If you give me a heads up I’ll have a time stamp that’s relative close to
 the time you sent the message, giving me the ability to narrow down the
 location in the queue and cutting down on the amount of time it takes to
 find it.  Also, if I don’t know you have a message being held, there’s a
 good chance I’ll miss it and it will go into the bit bucket with the rest
 of the garbage.

 Thank you.

 Dan/Mom/Martha, whatever
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN -

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Just a friendly reminder from the ListMom:


Thanks Mom
Thanks Ma Kleb

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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The reason we have so much spam is because I had to turn down the spam filters 
because people were whining about their mail getting occasional caught by the 
filters, so the flood gates opened. It's a no win scenario 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just a friendly reminder from the ListMom:
 
 If you get a hold notice because of an attachment, message being too big, 
 etc., please drop me a note directly and let me know.
 
 I ask because the amount of spam we get hit with on a daily basis is 
 staggering, and if something is in the queue from a subscriber there’s 
 nothing that makes it stand out, meaning I have to sift through literally 
 hundreds of messages about male enhancement, parts suppliers, Nigerian 
 bankers, etc., etc., etc., before I can find your message and approve it.
 
 If you give me a heads up I’ll have a time stamp that’s relative close to the 
 time you sent the message, giving me the ability to narrow down the location 
 in the queue and cutting down on the amount of time it takes to find it.  
 Also, if I don’t know you have a message being held, there’s a good chance 
 I’ll miss it and it will go into the bit bucket with the rest of the garbage.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Dan/Mom/Martha, whatever
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have no complaints, as I pretty much go in once a day and just dump 
everything.  I gave up trying to sift through it a while back, as it was an 
exercise in futility.

I just found that if people give me a heads up that they got a hold notice I 
can go in and release their message easily because having a time stamp gives me 
a point of reference.  Otherwise, there’s nothing in the queue that 
distinguishes a member’s message from anything else.

Dan


 On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The reason we have so much spam is because I had to turn down the spam 
 filters because people were whining about their mail getting occasional 
 caught by the filters, so the flood gates opened. It's a no win scenario 
 
 Sent from my iPhone


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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm thinking about upping the size limit but the problem is it won't catch when 
somebody quotes the whole digest.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 24, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have no complaints, as I pretty much go in once a day and just dump 
 everything.  I gave up trying to sift through it a while back, as it was an 
 exercise in futility.
 
 I just found that if people give me a heads up that they got a hold notice I 
 can go in and release their message easily because having a time stamp gives 
 me a point of reference.  Otherwise, there’s nothing in the queue that 
 distinguishes a member’s message from anything else.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The reason we have so much spam is because I had to turn down the spam 
 filters because people were whining about their mail getting occasional 
 caught by the filters, so the flood gates opened. It's a no win scenario 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

[LarryT]

Yep - It's been happening for  few weeks now.   I assumed it was 
becoming SOP.  ;-)  OTOH, it is very easy to become re-instated - click 
the link, confirm and done.  For a day or 2 at least.


LarryT

On 4/5/2015 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Looks like Comcast is bouncing mail from Okiebenz for some reason.  I’ve 
alerted Kaleb, but be aware that if you use Comcast as an ISP your mail form 
the list may be spotty or sporadic.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

[Rich Thomas]

I got a bounce message this morning, or last night, it is not clear.  
Not sure why or if responding fixed it.


--R


On 4/6/15 9:07 AM, LarryT wrote:
Yep - It's been happening for  few weeks now.   I assumed it was 
becoming SOP.  ;-)  OTOH, it is very easy to become re-instated - 
click the link, confirm and done.  For a day or 2 at least.


LarryT

On 4/5/2015 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Looks like Comcast is bouncing mail from Okiebenz for some reason.  
I’ve alerted Kaleb, but be aware that if you use Comcast as an ISP 
your mail form the list may be spotty or sporadic.


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

[Meade Dillon]

Kaleb,

Just checked my online gmail spam folder, it had about 25 messages from the
list.  Looks like google still hates aol and hotmail and probably others,
need to go back to the double reply thing I think...

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Ted Cruz?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Ok Poos

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 29, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 We will keep it civil, folks.
 
 No name calling, please, either specific or generalized.
 
 Thank you,
 
 ListMom
 
 
 On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:39 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Troglodytes, teabaggers.. any other denigrating invectives you wish to
 throw out?
 
 Really, I urge you to keep it civil.  I thought we had grown past the use
 of such terminology with the constructive destruction of the KKK and
 implementation of civil rights. I am stunned at the continued use of such
 terms of derision by the very liberal progressive persons who so quickly
 use the term racist at the mere hint of anything less than political
 correctness.
 
 I would welcome constructive thoughts on how to do what is best for America.
 
 Besides.. I've thrown my full support to the Charlie Sheen / Paris Hilton
 ticket for 2016... Country is going to hell, may as well elect a team that
 knows the way.
 
 Grant...
 
 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I encourage all you troglodytes to maintain your high standards and BOYCOTT
 the 2016 election, thereby increasing the odds of our achieving a first
 female president.  :)
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hey Dan/Kaleb,
When it gets fixed can you use something like a tinyURL for the unsubscribe 
link at the bottom? Its so wide when I read the emails on my phone they're tiny 
since it wants to format that as one long string with no wrap. Means I have to 
double tap to zoom blah blah blah. Not a big thing sure but kinda annoying...
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 9:27 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN
   
Just so everyone is aware, the admin interface for the Okielist is borked 
again.  I believe Kaleb has a ticket in for it, but again, if you’ve got 
something in the approval queue it may be a while.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oh I didn't get that part...
-Curt
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN
   
As I said I changed it by accident, it will be fixed when I return from out of 
town

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Hey Dan/Kaleb,
 When it gets fixed can you use something like a tinyURL for the unsubscribe 
 link at the bottom? Its so wide when I read the emails on my phone they're 
 tiny since it wants to format that as one long string with no wrap. Means I 
 have to double tap to zoom blah blah blah. Not a big thing sure but kinda 
 annoying...
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 9:27 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN
 
 Just so everyone is aware, the admin interface for the Okielist is borked 
 again.  I believe Kaleb has a ticket in for it, but again, if you’ve got 
 something in the approval queue it may be a while.
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

As I said I changed it by accident, it will be fixed when I return from out of 
town

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Hey Dan/Kaleb,
 When it gets fixed can you use something like a tinyURL for the unsubscribe 
 link at the bottom? Its so wide when I read the emails on my phone they're 
 tiny since it wants to format that as one long string with no wrap. Means I 
 have to double tap to zoom blah blah blah. Not a big thing sure but kinda 
 annoying...
 -Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 9:27 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN
 
 Just so everyone is aware, the admin interface for the Okielist is borked 
 again.  I believe Kaleb has a ticket in for it, but again, if you’ve got 
 something in the approval queue it may be a while.
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 06/10/2014 4:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

AST wrote:

I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the 
Ritter/Easley List?


Alive, thriving.
mercedeslist.com
I believe this response will not make it to okiebenz - I am probably
being moderated...
ma

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RB

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Without dragging this on any further, just let me say that Kalebs method of 
running a list which assumed that list members were mature adults who could use 
their delete key if they disliked a submission, and your method which requires 
that each member must avoid any subject that he guesses might upset another 
member; are quite different. As far as I knew, the only banned subject was 
politics, and what I wrote was not about politics; it was about the freedom of 
communication on the world-wide-web; something that millions of internet users 
are highly concerned about.

As far as this being a Mercedes list we both know anything and everything 
gets discussed here.

In short, am I going to try and censor myself?  No.
If I submit something which you don't think is suitable for this list, then 
censor it; I probably won't even notice that you have. If you so desire, remove 
me from the list; you're the moderator.

Gerrywho has been on this list since it was based in Canada.
...
Dan Penoff wrote:
 Gerry,
 First of all, if you had questions about filtering, you should have addressed 
 them to either myself or Kaleb privately. Attempting to post something you 
 expect to create dissent or of a highly contentious nature to see if there 
 were filters for such issues is simply wrong.
 
 Had you bothered to contact myself or Kaleb we would have gladly explained 
 that there are no content filters on this list and to my knowledge there 
 never have been. The list software isn't that smart.
 
 Using the list for social experiments is not acceptable. As for rules, 
 while there are few explicitly stated, we have had enough trouble with 
 contentious issues that any list member should have a solid grasp of what is 
 and what isn't acceptable subject matter.  If anyone has a question about 
 that, they can address it to myself or Kaleb.
 
 As to your concerns about the government's efforts to impose control, it 
 hasn't happened here. Your previous efforts to post such things have failed 
 due to their being addressed incorrectly, and as a result the list software 
 rejected them. I have seen them in the approval queue, and considering the 
 content inappropriate for the list, rejected them.  Had you bothered to ask 
 me about this I would have gladly explained. I have neither the time nor 
 inclination to address every rejected submission to the list.  If someone's 
 subscription goes awry, that's one thing. Seeing a stream of forwarded 
 messages on an occasional basis does not merit a response.
 This is not the place for a social experiment. This is a list for Mercedes' 
 enthusiasts. Let's keep it that way, please.
 Again, if anyone has questions, take it private.
 Dan
 
  Gerry wrote:
  I posted this to see if there were filters for such issues on the mercedes 
  list. 
  The existence of such filters on Yahoogroups is being investigated by 
  several members of a Yahoogroups list I belong to, and I had hoped to post 
  a failure to deliver notice here in the hopes that some of the computer 
  experts on this list could determine how and/or by whom the message was 
  blocked.
  
  The government has proposed laws to control the content of submissions on 
  the internet which are opposed by many, left wing and right wing. 
  
  It isn't surprising that most members objection to the posting is because 
  of its content rather than the fact that it is not about Mercedes.
  Personally, I have a wait and see attitude toward global warming; 
  especially since I remember that during the 1970s all the rage was about 
  global cooling which was why the government took away R-12 and have caused 
  us Mercedes owners all sorts of air conditioning troubles. (Mercedes 
  content.)
  Gerry...an observer, not a partisan or activist.
  
  Peter wrote:
  This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda.
  You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the
  internet before you do due diligence.
  ..
  Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am
  on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the
  mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is
  that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually
  happening.
  
  From a posting on that list,
  --
  
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There is no censoring on this list. If a user isn't moderated their posts go 
right to the list.

I totally agree with the we are all adults here, however, it was clear from 
the beginning that people were getting riled up on the subject. While we do a 
fairly good job of moderating ourselves, I stepped in in order to prevent this 
from going totally in the tank. I would rather err on the side of caution than 
have the list degrade into a verbal free for all.  Along these lines, I 
received many private messages expressing concern about the thread within 
minutes of it posting, which tells me the issue is contentious.

Dan, who was one of the original members of the mbz.org lists and a founding 
member of the Ritter list

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:53 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Without dragging this on any further, just let me say that Kalebs method of 
 running a list which assumed that list members were mature adults who could 
 use their delete key if they disliked a submission, and your method which 
 requires that each member must avoid any subject that he guesses might 
 upset another member; are quite different. As far as I knew, the only banned 
 subject was politics, and what I wrote was not about politics; it was about 
 the freedom of communication on the world-wide-web; something that millions 
 of internet users are highly concerned about.
 
 As far as this being a Mercedes list we both know anything and everything 
 gets discussed here.
 
 In short, am I going to try and censor myself?  No.
 If I submit something which you don't think is suitable for this list, then 
 censor it; I probably won't even notice that you have. If you so desire, 
 remove me from the list; you're the moderator.
 
 Gerrywho has been on this list since it was based in Canada.
 ...
 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Gerry,
 First of all, if you had questions about filtering, you should have 
 addressed them to either myself or Kaleb privately. Attempting to post 
 something you expect to create dissent or of a highly contentious nature to 
 see if there were filters for such issues is simply wrong.
 
 Had you bothered to contact myself or Kaleb we would have gladly explained 
 that there are no content filters on this list and to my knowledge there 
 never have been. The list software isn't that smart.
 
 Using the list for social experiments is not acceptable. As for rules, 
 while there are few explicitly stated, we have had enough trouble with 
 contentious issues that any list member should have a solid grasp of what is 
 and what isn't acceptable subject matter.  If anyone has a question about 
 that, they can address it to myself or Kaleb.
 
 As to your concerns about the government's efforts to impose control, it 
 hasn't happened here. Your previous efforts to post such things have failed 
 due to their being addressed incorrectly, and as a result the list software 
 rejected them. I have seen them in the approval queue, and considering the 
 content inappropriate for the list, rejected them.  Had you bothered to ask 
 me about this I would have gladly explained. I have neither the time nor 
 inclination to address every rejected submission to the list.  If someone's 
 subscription goes awry, that's one thing. Seeing a stream of forwarded 
 messages on an occasional basis does not merit a response.
 This is not the place for a social experiment. This is a list for Mercedes' 
 enthusiasts. Let's keep it that way, please.
 Again, if anyone has questions, take it private.
 Dan
 
 Gerry wrote:
 I posted this to see if there were filters for such issues on the mercedes 
 list. 
 The existence of such filters on Yahoogroups is being investigated by 
 several members of a Yahoogroups list I belong to, and I had hoped to post 
 a failure to deliver notice here in the hopes that some of the computer 
 experts on this list could determine how and/or by whom the message was 
 blocked.
 
 The government has proposed laws to control the content of submissions on 
 the internet which are opposed by many, left wing and right wing. 
 
 It isn't surprising that most members objection to the posting is because 
 of its content rather than the fact that it is not about Mercedes.
 Personally, I have a wait and see attitude toward global warming; 
 especially since I remember that during the 1970s all the rage was about 
 global cooling which was why the government took away R-12 and have caused 
 us Mercedes owners all sorts of air conditioning troubles. (Mercedes 
 content.)
 Gerry...an observer, not a partisan or activist.
 
 Peter wrote:
 This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda.
 You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the
 internet before you do due diligence.
 ..
 Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am
 on an email list of many leading scientists 

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the 
Ritter/Easley List?
AST
CL500
300E


From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content
Date: October 6, 2014 8:16:24 AM PDT
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com

snip
Dan, who was one of the original members of the mbz.org lists and a founding 
member of the Ritter list
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's all obama fault

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 AST wrote:
 I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the 
 Ritter/Easley List?
 
 Alive, thriving.
 mercedeslist.com
 I believe this response will not make it to okiebenz - I am probably
 being moderated...
 ma
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Hi Dan,
I have one suggestion and then I'll say no more:
Try to avoid scolding members with whom you disagree. (See your scold 
below.) One member wrote me that he was leaving the list because of your 
attitude; i.e. you apparently scolded him.  

Otherwise, perhaps you could get with the Ritter list management and combine 
the two lists.   Some of the long time members on this list know what I mean. 
(grin)

Gerrywho will still hang around because of all the fine members and their 
interesting submissions (including yours.) 
.. 

Dan wrote:
 There is no censoring on this list. If a user isn't moderated their posts go 
 right to the list.
 
 I totally agree with the we are all adults here, however, it was clear from 
 the beginning that people were getting riled up on the subject. While we do a 
 fairly good job of moderating ourselves, I stepped in in order to prevent 
 this from going totally in the tank. I would rather err on the side of 
 caution than have the list degrade into a verbal free for all.  Along these 
 lines, I received many private messages expressing concern about the thread 
 within minutes of it posting, which tells me the issue is contentious.
 
 Dan, who was one of the original members of the mbz.org lists and a founding 
 member of the Ritter list
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:53 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
  arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  
  
  Without dragging this on any further, just let me say that Kalebs method of 
  running a list which assumed that list members were mature adults who could 
  use their delete key if they disliked a submission, and your method which 
  requires that each member must avoid any subject that he guesses might 
  upset another member; are quite different. As far as I knew, the only 
  banned subject was politics, and what I wrote was not about politics; it 
  was about the freedom of communication on the world-wide-web; something 
  that millions of internet users are highly concerned about.
  
  As far as this being a Mercedes list we both know anything and everything 
  gets discussed here.
  
  In short, am I going to try and censor myself?  No.
  If I submit something which you don't think is suitable for this list, then 
  censor it; I probably won't even notice that you have. If you so desire, 
  remove me from the list; you're the moderator.
  
  Gerrywho has been on this list since it was based in Canada.
  ...
  Dan Penoff wrote:
  Gerry,
  First of all, if you had questions about filtering, you should have 
  addressed them to either myself or Kaleb privately. Attempting to post 
  something you expect to create dissent or of a highly contentious nature 
  to see if there were filters for such issues is simply wrong.
  
  Had you bothered to contact myself or Kaleb we would have gladly explained 
  that there are no content filters on this list and to my knowledge there 
  never have been. The list software isn't that smart.
  
  Using the list for social experiments is not acceptable. As for rules, 
  while there are few explicitly stated, we have had enough trouble with 
  contentious issues that any list member should have a solid grasp of what 
  is and what isn't acceptable subject matter.  If anyone has a question 
  about that, they can address it to myself or Kaleb.
  
  As to your concerns about the government's efforts to impose control, it 
  hasn't happened here. Your previous efforts to post such things have 
  failed due to their being addressed incorrectly, and as a result the list 
  software rejected them. I have seen them in the approval queue, and 
  considering the content inappropriate for the list, rejected them.  Had 
  you bothered to ask me about this I would have gladly explained. I have 
  neither the time nor inclination to address every rejected submission to 
  the list.  If someone's subscription goes awry, that's one thing. Seeing a 
  stream of forwarded messages on an occasional basis does not merit a 
  response.
  This is not the place for a social experiment. This is a list for 
  Mercedes' enthusiasts. Let's keep it that way, please.
  Again, if anyone has questions, take it private.
  Dan
  
  Gerry wrote:
  I posted this to see if there were filters for such issues on the 
  mercedes list. 
  The existence of such filters on Yahoogroups is being investigated by 
  several members of a Yahoogroups list I belong to, and I had hoped to 
  post a failure to deliver notice here in the hopes that some of the 
  computer experts on this list could determine how and/or by whom the 
  message was blocked.
  
  The government has proposed laws to control the content of submissions on 
  the internet which are opposed by many, left wing and right wing. 
  
  It isn't surprising that most members objection to the posting is because 
  of its content rather than the fact that it is not about Mercedes.
  Personally, I have a wait 

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Close the thread and drop the subject matter, folks. Final warning.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Similar to: scared old men sending brave young men to die
 In the good old days the boss would go out with the troops and fight but 
 nowadays those that decide the time has come to fight do not go out and 
 participate.
 Would the head honchos be so keen to start something  if they had to go out 
 and stick their necks out?
 Anyway on a related note, it's all go over here with all sorts of crazies 
 running amok 
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-19/afp-to-take-over-parliament-house-security/5754718
  not sure if there is anything to it or just a bit of a beat up to justify 
 sending troops to Iraq?
 My question is, what do these terrorists hope to achieve by doing these sort 
 of bad things?
 Do they all expect us to roll over and surrender and convert to Islam?
 Far as I can see all they are doing is creating a bigger divide between 
 Muslims and non Muslims and that ain't a good thing.
 I like to think that I am reasonably intelligent and do think that it is a 
 small minority of Muslims who are hardline nut jobs and the vast majority 
 just want to get along in life, however with every senseless terror attack, 
 that belief becomes a little eroded. Plus there are plenty of not so bright 
 people out there that think every Muslim is out to create mayhem.
 Nazi Germany is a good example of how people can be brainwashed into 
 believing that a particular group of people are bad and need to be gotten rid 
 of.
 
 Hendrik
 who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, in 
 case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet
 
 On 19/09/14 05:02, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 Chairman Mao:
 
 What was the context of that clever remark?
 
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 henifay wrote:
 Pitting the pawns against one another to keep
 the King safe.
 NICE!!
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

henifay wrote:
 Pitting the pawns against one another to keep
 the King safe.

NICE!!
mao

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Chairman Mao:

What was the context of that clever remark?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 henifay wrote:
  Pitting the pawns against one another to keep
  the King safe.

 NICE!!
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes]

Similar to: scared old men sending brave young men to die
In the good old days the boss would go out with the troops and fight but 
nowadays those that decide the time has come to fight do not go out and 
participate.
Would the head honchos be so keen to start something  if they had to go 
out and stick their necks out?
Anyway on a related note, it's all go over here with all sorts of 
crazies running amok 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-19/afp-to-take-over-parliament-house-security/5754718 
not sure if there is anything to it or just a bit of a beat up to 
justify sending troops to Iraq?
My question is, what do these terrorists hope to achieve by doing these 
sort of bad things?

Do they all expect us to roll over and surrender and convert to Islam?
Far as I can see all they are doing is creating a bigger divide between 
Muslims and non Muslims and that ain't a good thing.
I like to think that I am reasonably intelligent and do think that it is 
a small minority of Muslims who are hardline nut jobs and the vast 
majority just want to get along in life, however with every senseless 
terror attack, that belief becomes a little eroded. Plus there are 
plenty of not so bright people out there that think every Muslim is out 
to create mayhem.
Nazi Germany is a good example of how people can be brainwashed into 
believing that a particular group of people are bad and need to be 
gotten rid of.


Hendrik
who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, 
in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet


On 19/09/14 05:02, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Chairman Mao:

What was the context of that clever remark?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


henifay wrote:

Pitting the pawns against one another to keep
the King safe.

NICE!!
mao


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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hendrik
who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, in
case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet

Hendrik, did you ever notice that alien space ships only fly at night, and
only after bars all close... and only pick people up for rectal exams?  Why
is that?

Inquiring minds want to know... ;))

I can't think of a single case of alien abduction that involved a Mercedes
driver.. thus .. Mercedes protects against aliens..

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Similar to: scared old men sending brave young men to die
 In the good old days the boss would go out with the troops and fight but
 nowadays those that decide the time has come to fight do not go out and
 participate.
 Would the head honchos be so keen to start something  if they had to go
 out and stick their necks out?
 Anyway on a related note, it's all go over here with all sorts of crazies
 running amok http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-19/afp-to-take-over-
 parliament-house-security/5754718 not sure if there is anything to it or
 just a bit of a beat up to justify sending troops to Iraq?
 My question is, what do these terrorists hope to achieve by doing these
 sort of bad things?
 Do they all expect us to roll over and surrender and convert to Islam?
 Far as I can see all they are doing is creating a bigger divide between
 Muslims and non Muslims and that ain't a good thing.
 I like to think that I am reasonably intelligent and do think that it is a
 small minority of Muslims who are hardline nut jobs and the vast majority
 just want to get along in life, however with every senseless terror attack,
 that belief becomes a little eroded. Plus there are plenty of not so bright
 people out there that think every Muslim is out to create mayhem.
 Nazi Germany is a good example of how people can be brainwashed into
 believing that a particular group of people are bad and need to be gotten
 rid of.

 Hendrik
 who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed,
 in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet

 On 19/09/14 05:02, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 Chairman Mao:

 What was the context of that clever remark?

 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  henifay wrote:

 Pitting the pawns against one another to keep
 the King safe.

 NICE!!
 mao


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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Alien Politics

[Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes]

Actually speaking of which, I swear I saw something in the sky while I 
was driving in Arizona.
Driving along in a rental SUV (not a merc) in the middle of nowhere I 
looked to my 9 oclock and saw a shiny ball way off in the distance, 
looked at the road and looked back and it was gone.
Anyway I don't particularly like those TV shows where people claim to 
have seem this or that, just more crap to fill the airwaves with.
Given the proliferation of camera equipped phones, we should be seeing 
some footage of space ships any time soon but then with alien tech they 
can make themselves invisible to cameras.


Hendrik
who has his phone charged and ready to take pics

On 19/09/14 10:38, G Mann wrote:

Hendrik
who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags 
packed, in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet


Hendrik, did you ever notice that alien space ships only fly at night, 
and only after bars all close... and only pick people up for rectal 
exams?  Why is that?


Inquiring minds want to know... ;))

I can't think of a single case of alien abduction that involved a 
Mercedes driver.. thus .. Mercedes protects against aliens..




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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Alien Politics

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I was out practicing night operations tonight in the Cessna. I wonder is
any of the locals reported me - flying low with all those flashing lights,
in a semi-rural area at night??? We saw one UFO - but it seemed to be
heading to Will Rogers airport - - - just because I couldn't identify it,
doesn't mean it was piloted by aliens. I was too pre-occupied keeping the
runway lights turned on on our 2500 ft. grass strip to take a picture of
the UFO :-)

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Actually speaking of which, I swear I saw something in the sky while I was
 driving in Arizona.
 Driving along in a rental SUV (not a merc) in the middle of nowhere I
 looked to my 9 oclock and saw a shiny ball way off in the distance, looked
 at the road and looked back and it was gone.
 Anyway I don't particularly like those TV shows where people claim to have
 seem this or that, just more crap to fill the airwaves with.
 Given the proliferation of camera equipped phones, we should be seeing
 some footage of space ships any time soon but then with alien tech they can
 make themselves invisible to cameras.

 Hendrik
 who has his phone charged and ready to take pics



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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Alien Politics

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:48:53 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I was too pre-occupied keeping the runway lights turned on on our 2500
 ft. grass strip to take a picture of the UFO :-)

Runway lights? Bah, humbug! Who needs those?!  :-)

Don't you just double-click your mike and they come on? How long is their
timeout set to?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:
 Best to put it to bed now and find other, more appropriate subject matter.  
 No more replies or responses to the subject, please.


Diversity?
What is the correct opinion?
On one hand we are adults with delete key, on the other hand we need
to be told what to do?
Yes, I am idiot - I try the same thing again, expecting different result.
...off to banned...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What subject? I have not been
Paying attention. Do I need to get the pooferator out?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, folks, I let this thread run its course and it's started to degrade into 
 areas where we have agreed not to go.
 
 Best to put it to bed now and find other, more appropriate subject matter.  
 No more replies or responses to the subject, please.
 
 Thank you for your cooperation.
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics

[Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes]

Yeah I am not sure but yeah there is a bit of finger pointing and blame 
laying being done.
It just seems we cannot discuss world affairs without someone getting 
politically emotional about it.
However it does not matter, as no one is listening and the powers that 
be will do the same old stuff. Pitting the pawns against one another to 
keep the King safe.


Hendrik
who will ask a Merc question  in a minute

On 18/09/14 10:51, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

What subject? I have not been
Paying attention. Do I need to get the pooferator out?

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

OK, folks, I let this thread run its course and it's started to degrade into 
areas where we have agreed not to go.

Best to put it to bed now and find other, more appropriate subject matter.  No 
more replies or responses to the subject, please.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: pooferator?

[Mountain Man]

Dan wrote:
 ListMom hat on

 OK guys, this thread has been right on the edge of unacceptable subject 
 matter.

 Let's keep it on topic.  That is, the subject topic...

WOW!!
This forum is becoming kinder and gentler?
Quite soon, Stu/Hank/Richard will be joining okiebenz.
This is the topic, hence, anyone can comment about the apparent pooferator here.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

[Mountain Man]

--R wrote:
 I vote for Lois Lerner

Great!
No more archives.
That would certainly foil the NSA/FBI/CIA mining efforts.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: pooferator?

[Dan Penoff]

Wrong.

No crispy pancakes, Packards, or lawnmower repairs going on here.

Dan


On Jun 21, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 WOW!!
 This forum is becoming kinder and gentler?
 Quite soon, Stu/Hank/Richard will be joining okiebenz.
 This is the topic, hence, anyone can comment about the apparent pooferator 
 here.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

--R wrote:
 I vote for Lois Lerner

Great!
No more archives.
That would certainly foil the NSA/FBI/CIA mining efforts.

They‎'ve got their own archives, I'm sure. 

Rick 
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

[G Mann]

Lost emails?  Isn't that what we have the new NSA facility in Utah for?

Mercedes content: How do I access that data base to recover discussions
about Mercedes mechanical issues in the past?  Seems that would be a
valuable public use of such a data base.


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 --R wrote:
  I vote for Lois Lerner

 Great!
 No more archives.
 That would certainly foil the NSA/FBI/CIA mining efforts.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You see the bottom of each email

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 21, 2014, at 12:58 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lost emails?  Isn't that what we have the new NSA facility in Utah for?
 
 Mercedes content: How do I access that data base to recover discussions
 about Mercedes mechanical issues in the past?  Seems that would be a
 valuable public use of such a data base.
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 
 --R wrote:
 I vote for Lois Lerner
 
 Great!
 No more archives.
 That would certainly foil the NSA/FBI/CIA mining efforts.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

[OK Don]

No, they have your email before you get it - -


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:


 Great!
 No more archives.
 That would certainly foil the NSA/FBI/CIA mining efforts.
 mao




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Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] Re: shipping for my W124 Radiator (and fuel cost)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Would it be ok if I go ahead and continue to throw fuel on the fire?

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 OK guys, this thread has been right on the edge of unacceptable subject 
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 Let's keep it on topic.  That is, the subject topic...
 
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