Re: [MBZ] As Traded?

2021-06-14 Thread Clay via Mercedes
GWN dealers are lazy as … well .. lazy.  When looking for cars since 2018, the 
dealers will take a trade and then toss it at the storage lot once they took a 
passel of pix.  The car languishes waiting for detail for weeks on end while 
they post it to CL or their site as being for sale.  If you ask to see a 
specific car, it is not available and waiting for detail.  I have run across 
this consistently no matter the dealer and the positing being live for a month. 
 Even when I made an appointment to see the car, it is not ready.

I did run across one or two cars that were posted for sale but had not made it 
to the “detail” lot.  Once I expressed interest in them it was hurry up and 
wait for it to go be serviced and then get malarky that the list price had gone 
up.  I really suspect that most of the used cars that go in on trade were just 
sitting on a dirt lot waiting to go to auction instead of actually hitting the 
used lot.

Most dealers were swamped with new iron that needed moving, so had little 
interest in used.  This year, I think there are not enough new to meet demand 
and people who would be buying used have been on the dole and can not afford.  
I am not currently tracking dealer inventories, since I have no space to store 
anything.


Clay


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> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am seeing more and more of the big car dealers around here advertising used 
> vehicles "as traded" meaning they won't include a current safety certificate 
> so that the buyer can get it licenced. Historically, one of the reasons many 
> folks went to a dealer is that it was an easy way to buy a vehicle. It came 
> ready to go. Now it appears that the cheap bas*ards want to add on the cost 
> of any required repairs to the sale price.
> 
> Are you folks seeing that sort of thing where you are?

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Re: [MBZ] As Traded

2021-06-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And the dealers will not give even a 30 day warranty if a car is beyond the
100,000 mile/ 6 year extended warranty.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 5:04 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It used to be here in Manitoba that the government would send out a
> notice requiring that an owner bring a vehicle to a temporary setup on a
> parking lot to have the vehicle inspected. They had technicians that
> would give it a quick once over to ensure that the brakes worked and the
> suspension parts were not worn out etc. If they found anything unsafe,
> one had to either have it repaired and bring it back or, if the body was
> bad enough, send it to the crusher.
>
> A few years back they did away with that. Now, a vehicle has to pass a
> pretty rigid inspection in order to be licenced. However, if you keep
> the vehicle, it never has to be tested again unless the police see it
> dog tracking down the road or something like that and require you to
> have it inspected and certified.
>
> The inspections on sale, as I said, have become much more of an issue in
> the past couple of years. If a vehicle has rust holes we can no longer
> just patch it to where it is sealed up. It literally has to be very well
> repaired to the point where most folks could not tell it had been
> repaired at all, or it does not pass. I guess it is the government's way
> of getting the junk off of the roads but it is creating some hardship
> for the poor as it is more difficult to find an inexpensive vehicle.
>
> I always thought the dealers had to certify a vehicle in order to sell
> it but that does not appear to be the case given the recent advertising
> of vehicles, essentially, "as is". Some that I have seen are late model
> trucks with an asking price of $40,000 so it just seems odd to me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] As Traded?

2021-06-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
The big dealers around here do not appear to keep any inexpensive 
vehicles. They want you to buy new so I think most of the traded 
vehicles do go to auction here too.



On 14/06/2021 3:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Every car I've traded in went to auction.




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Re: [MBZ] As Traded?

2021-06-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Every car I've traded in went to auction.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 3:51 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm not familiar with the "safety certificate" you speak of. It may be
> because Indiana requires no safety inspections at all for cars, except
> perhaps for a salvage title being changed to rebuilt.
>
> I once asked a local dealer what they do to the used cars they take in
> trade before they put them back out on the lot. He said other than
> cleaning the interior and washing the car, nothing.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I am seeing more and more of the big car dealers around here advertising
> > used vehicles "as traded" meaning they won't include a current safety
> > certificate so that the buyer can get it licenced. Historically, one of
> > the reasons many folks went to a dealer is that it was an easy way to
> > buy a vehicle. It came ready to go. Now it appears that the cheap
> > bas*ards want to add on the cost of any required repairs to the sale
> price.
> >
> > Are you folks seeing that sort of thing where you are?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] As Traded?

2021-06-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I'm not familiar with the "safety certificate" you speak of. It may be
because Indiana requires no safety inspections at all for cars, except
perhaps for a salvage title being changed to rebuilt.

I once asked a local dealer what they do to the used cars they take in
trade before they put them back out on the lot. He said other than
cleaning the interior and washing the car, nothing.

Allan


Randy Bennell via Mercedes  writes:

> I am seeing more and more of the big car dealers around here advertising 
> used vehicles "as traded" meaning they won't include a current safety 
> certificate so that the buyer can get it licenced. Historically, one of 
> the reasons many folks went to a dealer is that it was an easy way to 
> buy a vehicle. It came ready to go. Now it appears that the cheap 
> bas*ards want to add on the cost of any required repairs to the sale price.
>
> Are you folks seeing that sort of thing where you are?
>

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Re: [MBZ] As Traded?

2021-06-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Can't be done here, MA law states that any car for sale from a dealer must 
meet a state safety inspection. I'm sure there are weasel ways around it but 
the "good" dealers probably aren't trying it.
-Curt

On Monday, June 14, 2021, 4:16:01 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I am seeing more and more of the big car dealers around here advertising 
used vehicles "as traded" meaning they won't include a current safety 
certificate so that the buyer can get it licenced. Historically, one of 
the reasons many folks went to a dealer is that it was an easy way to 
buy a vehicle. It came ready to go. Now it appears that the cheap 
bas*ards want to add on the cost of any required repairs to the sale price.

Are you folks seeing that sort of thing where you are?


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