Re: [MBZ] No Start, 240D

2013-04-05 Thread Craig
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:19:41 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Everything works electrically. The starter spins, the engine does not. The starter spins only when I jump across the terminals with a screwdriver. Turning the key does nothing... but all the dash lights come on correctly.

Re: [MBZ] No Start, 240D

2013-04-05 Thread Dieselhead
Not on an 80. Is there a safety switch that requires you to depress the clutch to start it? Randy On 05/04/2013 1:25 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It's a manual. Bob R On Apr 5, 2013 10:48 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Automatic transmission? Neutral safety switch! Might

Re: [MBZ] No Start, 240D

2013-04-05 Thread OK Don
Assuming the soleoid works, this is the senario that first cinspired us to wire a door bell button to start the '81 240D. Bad ignition switch, but easier to wire around that to fix it. The kids loved it, and eventually threw a fit when I announced I was going to replace the ignition switch after

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread clay monroe
The 14 tires are going way up in price. Either I pay $300-500 each or go with the lower S rated rubber. All so I can keep the car original. I am sure the hoopty wheels with 235 55 17 rubber bands will make the car drive like feces. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread clay monroe
less rubber and more rim sales for the tire shops. Most of the old cars with donut tires are headed to the junk yard to be crushed and our classic cars get expensive tires as an idiot tax for having old cars. New cars are plastic and disposable. The Al Gore movement to keep the economy

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread clay monroe
Long ago it was a speed rating, but is now used more for structural needs of a tire to meet usage requirements. Too many people were getting hung up on the speed part and allow cars to be undershod because buyers were buying a lesser tire for lower cash, thinking they did not drive all that

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread Rich Thomas
A coupla years ago I got a set of tires for the 300SD at Costco, the guy there was very knowledgeable, made me sign a waiver because the tires he had did not meet the rating for the car, which he said was due more to weight than speed -- the Hun had specified that rating to support vigorous

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread clay monroe
It depends Near me the local street crews are putting in traffic calming islands instead of fixing up the pot holes that will become much larger in coming months. I guess pretty obstacles are better than safe roads. Added to this, main streets are being torn up two years after being repaved,

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-17 Thread Allan Streib
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: Near me the local street crews are putting in traffic calming islands Happening here too, it is almost impossible to get from point A to point B without negotiating a variety of obstacles and impediments... you'd amost think the city council didn't like

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. It won't. I have Michelin Destiny tires on the kids car and Kumho Solus on the coupe. Happy with both. Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. It won't. Why not? It's primarily a matter of styling. The practical benefits (room for bigger

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. It won't. Why not? Profitability. My guess is bigger tires = more profit. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 16, 2012 10:32 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. It won't. Why not? Profitability. My guess is bigger tires = more profit.

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Dieselhead
On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away. It won't. Why not? It's primarily a matter of styling. The practical benefits (room for

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread clay monroe
Original interior with messed up console. A poor upgrade to the radio resulted in chopped opening that needs fix. Might have to replace the whole thing though, as the paint is chipping on the console. Carpet and package shelf were cleaned up when I got her. Had to remove it all when I did

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread clay monroe
Speed is not really the issue, it is the weight of the car that requires sturdy sidewalls, which a V rated tire has. clay On Oct 15, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Dieselhead wrote: IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell
On 16/10/2012 3:33 PM, clay monroe wrote: Original interior with messed up console. A poor upgrade to the radio resulted in chopped opening that needs fix. Might have to replace the whole thing though, as the paint is chipping on the console. Carpet and package shelf were cleaned up when I

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Max Dillon
I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which improves grip. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Craig
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:26:15 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which improves grip. Lower un-sprung weight does improve grip and handling, but lower profile tires mean larger wheels. It depends on which, tires or

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Dieselhead
Pray tell what is the meaning of the V rating by definition? Speed is not really the issue, it is the weight of the car that requires sturdy sidewalls, which a V rated tire has. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:26:15 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which improves grip. Lower un-sprung weight does improve grip and handling, but lower

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-16 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: If we ever hope to pay off our debt, roads will suffer more. Spending on roads is not why we are in debt; cutting spending on roads will not get us out of debt. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell
Different issue but how is the interior? Seats? Randy On 12/10/2012 5:25 PM, clay monroe wrote: That is a possibility. I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the car cover on

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-15 Thread John Reames
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Oct 12, 2012, at 18:25, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: That

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-15 Thread Dieselhead
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 I think that is the problem. the 107 supposedly goes faster. Not

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the wider 205/70 size. I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs the

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-15 Thread Dieselhead
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the wider 205/70 size. I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
Is it running really rich? Your fuel loss or consumpton and the black oil makes me wonder if it is dumping way too much fuel into the engine. Randy On 10/10/2012 6:59 PM, clay monroe wrote: One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks and drips while on

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-12 Thread clay monroe
That is a possibility. I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the car cover on for now. Will be sending her to the indy next spring for a full tune up and resolution of these

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-12 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I was thinking this too, Randy... especially with a D-jet car. Its interesting how a car can run with way too much fuel. Maybe just a stuck cold start valve? Could be lots of other things too... The issue is that its dangerous for the engine. Gas in the oil can ruin an engine pretty fast if

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-11 Thread Jim Cathey
Used be able to central lock, but now I have to lock each opening. Well, then fix that! You now have motivation to do so, right? :-) The fuel lock is only vacuum-operated. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-11 Thread clay monroe
It would be a good winter project, but she is getting put away for the rainy season. Locked away in a garage for five months. WIll give me time to gather the connectors and tubing so any broken parts are immediately dealt with clay On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Used be

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread Tim C
On Oct 9, 2012 9:26 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The odd thing is that a full tank, with 2 miles on it has lost 0.25 of the volume. My 123 gauge is usually incorrect for the top 10% of the level. It isn't always right or wrong in the same way, I assume there is some dirt or dead

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread Max Dillon
You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Will have to figure this one out. Got her to light off and ran her on the road for a few miles to see if I could burp the system of air. Idle was

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Pulled the dipstick yet?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch You lost a quarter

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread clay monroe
One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks and drips while on the creeper for two hours. Stuck a sheet of cardboard under the car where the fuel lines go to see if there are drips that end up on it. I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread clay monroe
Diesel preferred. From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere? -- Max

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread Allan Streib
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5 gallons of fuel. I remember when I was a kid, in the '70s energy crisis, that happened to my parents a couple of times. Park the car at work in the morning with a full tank, come

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread Jim Cathey
I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5 gallons of fuel Did you not lock the car? The filler hatch locks with the rest! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-10 Thread clay monroe
I am sure I have it locked, but vacuum may not be cooperating. Used be able to central lock, but now I have to lock each opening. Before, I had to run the motor for a few moments to get enough vac to allow the rest of the car to unlock. clay On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-09 Thread clay monroe
Will have to figure this one out. Got her to light off and ran her on the road for a few miles to see if I could burp the system of air. Idle was pretty rough and seemed to be missing. Hot idle was less rumbly, but I think the miss is still there. Will have to have indy tune. The odd thing

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-08 Thread clay monroe
Fresh fuel precipitated the issue. I have run a number of tanks this season, but might decide to drain and put fresh tank screens in. clay On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Glad you figured it out, hope your not looking at a fuel tank problem. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-08 Thread Max Dillon
Could you rig a filtering circuit, pump out all the fuel via a filter, routing the clean discharge back into the tank? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Fresh fuel precipitated the issue. I have run a number of tanks this season, but might

Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch

2012-10-07 Thread Max Dillon
Glad you figured it out, hope your not looking at a fuel tank problem. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I had previously ordered a bunch of stuff from Rusty when I got the car. Fuel filter was not installed at that time, but I figured now

Re: [MBZ] cold start valves

2012-01-15 Thread RELNGSON
As I said earlier, I replaced a temp sender on my Mum's 190E because it too was hard to start, hot or cold. Actually I got it to start better disconnecting the cold start valve, which meant that the valve was squirting fuel into the motor.. Which reminds me, lo these many years ago, I

Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D

2011-04-16 Thread Larry T
Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:46:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D 'Just looked it up.  It's behind (well, in front of, really, in relation to the car) the instrument cluster

Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D

2011-04-16 Thread WILTON
Disc 1; Elec. Trouble Shooting; Relays and Control Modules, page 8 Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D Hey Wilton

Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D

2011-04-15 Thread Craig
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:55:04 -0400 Robert Massmann rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: Most discussion on forums relates to the starter lock-out relay module (K38). I have not found it yet. Next place to check is behind the instrument cluster. Is this were it is. There really isn't very much room

Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D

2011-04-15 Thread WILTON
'Just looked it up. It's behind (well, in front of, really, in relation to the car) the instrument cluster. Remove instrument cluster. Sitting in driver's seat, K38 is behind upper left corner of inst. cluster; illustration shows small square box. Wilton - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D

2011-04-15 Thread WILTON
BTW, if you car has telescoping steering wheel, you can run it to the fully extended position, and you don't have to remove steering wheel to remove the cluster. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Massmann rmassm...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 116 start

2010-12-23 Thread Rusty Cullens
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 116 start relng...@aol.com wrote: I'd like to see a reference regarding your idea that there was a 1972 116. Hier dreht sich alles um die Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse der 70er Jahre (1972-1980

Re: [MBZ] 116 start

2010-12-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Rusty Cullens wrote: In Germany only. None were imported here. That was my original contention tha Woger disputed. I was going to admit he was right, as I also found it said somewhere that production began in September 1972 as a 1973 model. Are you saying I was correct in the first place?

Re: [MBZ] 116 start

2010-12-23 Thread Rusty Cullens
www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 116 start

Re: [MBZ] 116 start

2010-12-22 Thread RELNGSON
1972 elsewhere, 1973 here. I once drove way too far to look at three 1972 SEs and SELs. Turned out to be a W108 long, a W108 short, and a W114. Could have had all three for $500-600, and they were basically complete. Unfortunately, I needed W116 parts, and didn't have time/space to

Re: [MBZ] 116 start

2010-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
relng...@aol.com wrote: I'd like to see a reference regarding your idea that there was a 1972 116. Hier dreht sich alles um die Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse der 70er Jahre (1972-1980) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-21 Thread MG
, 20 Jun 2010 17:59:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Message-ID: Check with a diesel injection service -- I'm not familiar with this particular pump, but a failed pressure valve or a worn rotor will give

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-20 Thread MG
Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters. As noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the injection lines. I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-20 Thread Peter Frederick
had to be rebuilt for this reason. Peter -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Sent: Jun 20, 2010 5:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update The injection pump is a distributor type pump, the same one

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-19 Thread MG
: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:12:51 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot. When the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess resistance goes way up

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters. As noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the injection lines. I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm not familiar with that particular engine, does it have a distributor type

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
- problem is worse in warm months. Have I got it right? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Mike Esh
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Yes that is correct only the problem started about a year ago. Who is still looking for rusty lines and leaks

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Esh
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Dieselhead
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Esh
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread OK Don
One 115 chassis 300D I bought a long time ago was sold with a dis-assembled engine because it was hard to start. I transferred the factory re-man engine I had in a rusting out car to it, and surprise - it was suddenly hard to start! I found a small place where the steel fuel line had been rubbing

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Dieselhead
Well stated. I had the same experience with a small rust spot under a clamp. Not wet. Not much rust. but the car started fine after I cut it out. Michaels's observation that the fuel seems to flow to the filter as the air leaks in indicates the return line. One 115 chassis 300D I bought

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Frederick
You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot. When the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess resistance goes way up with temperature, so when you crank with a bad starter that is already hot, it won't turn the engine fast enough to start. 100 rpm

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-15 Thread MG
for me on the van. It's too hard to get to the injector lines to bleed them so I haven't tried that though I may do that some time just to see if that works on the 6.5 Manfred Mike Esh Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-15 Thread Mike Esh
that some time just to see if that works on the 6.5 Manfred Mike Esh Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Car runs great! Cruises at 75 mph easily. In-line has one small bubble in it, and it does not seem

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Car runs great! Cruises at 75 mph easily. In-line has one small bubble in it, and it does

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I had a similar problem with an S10 pickup, it was something in the ignition system but since your car is a diesel I guess it would not be a hot ignition module... You sure it is fuel related? Is the glow system working OK? Glow plug fuse? Relay? I replaced the relay on the 84 300SD with

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dieselhead
Change all the hoses including at the tank. check the primer pump. If it leaks when pumping, or does not pump, replace it. An easy test is: in the condition when you know it won't start right, use the primer pump to bring up fuel to the IP. If it is a quiet location, you can hear the

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dieselhead
Air leak in fuel lines. He said it is not delivering fuel to the nozzles when the condition exists. As an aside, Michael, you don't need to crack the injection lines. Just prime it with the hand pump, then crank it. I had a similar problem with an S10 pickup, it was something in the

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Mike Esh
Thanks for the input. No leaks at the pump and it is a newer style pump. Appears to to be pumping correctly however after manually pumping 30 times or more the vehicle will not start. After loosening the injector lines at the injectors I pumped manually about 20 times with no results

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dieselhead
Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. If you get air out at the filter,

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dieselhead
speeds? Watch the clear in-line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread John Reames
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Mike Esh
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread John Robbins
On 6/11/2010 1:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I only use OE or OEM radiator hoses. They are still noticeably better than any third party hoses. I only use OE (with the star on it, came from a dealership) coolant hoses. I have noticed the ones with the star on it are better than the OEM ones...

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread John Reames
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Mike Esh
speeds? Watch the clear in-line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

2010-06-11 Thread Dieselhead
: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. If you get

Re: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock

2008-11-12 Thread B Dike
fender but decided against it.  It was an incredible car, I hate to see it go.  Will keep the motor however to put in the 72 220D. Bruce --- On Tue, 11/4/08, TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock

2008-11-03 Thread TE
What's the deal with the 75 240? Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Dike Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:04 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock Hi, The 82 300CD starter problem has been

Re: [MBZ] no start

2008-06-16 Thread RELNGSON
..Daughters GL320 cdi SUV, which she has had 6 or 8 months, has been towed into the dealer three times because it wouldn't start.  Each time the dealer said it was a defective sensor.  If anyones cdi doesn't want to start, not much use in running the battery down trying.  Just call the

Re: [MBZ] cold start rpms

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Frederick
2k doesn't seem right for that sensor, usually they are much higher, but I don't have that information handy at the moment. I'll try to look it up in a bit (I'm looking for the receipt for my cashier's check for the new Benz). The one for the ACC is a two pole after 7/87, single pole before

Re: [MBZ] cold start rpms

2007-11-07 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold start rpms Check the temperature switch -- I don't remember if it's open cold or closed cold, (probably closed) -- if not working, you may not get enough

Re: [MBZ] cold start rpms

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the temperature switch -- I don't remember if it's open cold or closed cold, (probably closed) -- if not working, you may not get enough cold enrichment or the high idle. Double check the idle control valve and for vacuum leaks, too -- if you have enough leaks, the idle control valve

Re: [MBZ] Cold start wear

2007-02-02 Thread RELNGSON
I always do that with my freight trains! Doesn't seem applicable to my cars. Almost all automobile engine wear is cold start wear.. I have a Porsche 911 factory shop manual from 1968 that states that startup wear is equivalent to 200 miles at full throttle. Keeping in mind that all their

Re: [MBZ] Cold start wear

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
against this. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:55 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold start wear I always do

Re: [MBZ] Cold start wear

2007-02-02 Thread Marshall Booth
Tom Hargrave wrote: And Mobile 1 won't help a bit if the issue is gasoline wash down. The issue is not lack of oil pressure at start up. The issue is oil that's coating the cylinder walls being diluted with fuel condensate because the cylinder walls are cold at start up. No-one's oil (synthetic

Re: [MBZ] To start or to let slumber

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I let it sit undisturbed until I intend to actually drive it? And why would it be better? That is a relatively short time, if inside especially, for anything but the battery and the fuel tank. And you have those covered. I'm sure that'll be best

Re: [MBZ] To start or to let slumber

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I started it periodically? If so, how often? - or - Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I let it sit undisturbed until I intend to actually drive it? And why would it be better? I vote for undisturbed. Starting

Re: [MBZ] Cold start

2006-12-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: Since everybody else is posting about their recent cold starts... It got to 13F here last night, was about 19F when I went out this morning. Let the glow light cycle and then maybe 20 seconds more, 2 pumps on the throttle and hold at halfway, hit the key and it fired up

Re: [MBZ] Cold start

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Canfield
: Re: [MBZ] Cold start Curt Raymond wrote: Since everybody else is posting about their recent cold starts... It got to 13F here last night, was about 19F when I went out this morning. Let the glow light cycle and then maybe 20 seconds more, 2 pumps on the throttle and hold at halfway, hit

Re: [MBZ] Cold start

2006-12-06 Thread Jim Cathey
Just a theory here but...If your source of iron IS timing chain wear could it make any sense at all that the longer you run it the less it wears until the point of failure? No. The tension doesn't go down 'cause there is a tensioner in there. Wear _accelerates_, because the rollers no

Re: [MBZ] Cold start

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Canfield
Thanks JimJust a thought. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold start Just a theory here but...If your source of iron IS timing chain

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