Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeah, once the rivers run technicolor and catch fire and there is no water fit 
to drink.They've already shrouded themselves in a nearly unbreathable cloud...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Once they realize that poisoning their environment is not sustainable they
will clean up their act.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 A recent Washington Post
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
 
 article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
 as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
 European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic
 pollution
 in Chinese villages and farmlands.

 The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
 polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to
 the
 lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents.
 http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650


 NIMBY

 but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, so
 it HAS to be GOOD!

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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Once they realize that poisoning their environment is not sustainable they
will clean up their act.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 A recent Washington Post
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
 
 article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
 as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
 European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic
 pollution
 in Chinese villages and farmlands.

 The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
 polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to
 the
 lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents.
 http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650


 NIMBY

 but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, so
 it HAS to be GOOD!

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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

A recent Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic pollution
in Chinese villages and farmlands.

The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to the
lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents.
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650


NIMBY

but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, 
so it HAS to be GOOD!


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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
With Elijah Cummings involved I am sure this will work out even better 
than imagined!  We should be spending even more money to help the 
lower-income communities save money!  I am all-in on this! Where can I 
contribute to this worthy endeavor?  Where can I get a contract to 
install these plants?


--R



On 7/7/15 5:11 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

White House to unveil solar panel program for poor areas

WASHINGTON, July 7 (UPI) -- The Obama administration will unveil a project 
Tuesday that will help low- and middle-income Americans obtain solar panels for 
energy production, taking another step in the president's goal of tackling 
climate change.

The administration said by 2020 it plans to triple the capacity of solar and other 
renewable energy systems in federally subsidized housing and make it easier for 
homeowners to borrow money for solar panels. The White House said the plan will 
help continue to scale up solar for all Americans, including those who are renters, 
lack the startup capital to invest in solar, or do not have adequate information on how 
to transition to solar energy.

We need to expand opportunities for more families to reap the benefits of using 
cleaner sources of energy that can also help households save money on their utility 
bills, Brian Deese, Obama's top energy adviser, said Monday.

Deese and Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., will travel to Baltimore Tuesday to roll 
out the program with a key component from the Energy Department to help build 
neighborhood solar farms that don't require panels to be installed on the roofs 
of homes and businesses. It's meant to make solar an option to renters who 
can't install solar panels on rooftops.

Deese said the Energy Department will provide low-cost financing, particularly to 
households, and improve our government lending programs to make them easier to utilize so 
that it's easier for individuals to take advantage of this benefit.

Deese said the program includes commitments totaling about $520 million from 
investors, charities, states and cities to pay for solar and energy-efficient 
projects for lower-income communities. The program will not only help the 
planet but also help local residents, Cummings said.

The difference in a monthly bill of $10 or $15 means a lot to the people who live 
on my block, Cummings said.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/07/07/White-House-to-unveil-solar-panel-program-for-poor-areas/7101436275343/?spt=secor=tn

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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-07 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
[image: The lake of toxic waste at Baotou, China, which as been dumped by
the rare earth processing plants in the background]

The lake of toxic waste at Baotou, China, which as been dumped by the rare
earth processing plants in the background

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:56 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com
wrote:

 A recent Washington Post
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
 article, however, has revealed that China’s booming solar industry is not
 as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
 European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic pollution
 in Chinese villages and farmlands.

 The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
 polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to the
 lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents.
 http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650



 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:11 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 White House to unveil solar panel program for poor areas

 WASHINGTON, July 7 (UPI) -- The Obama administration will unveil a
 project Tuesday that will help low- and middle-income Americans obtain
 solar panels for energy production, taking another step in the president's
 goal of tackling climate change.

 The administration said by 2020 it plans to triple the capacity of solar
 and other renewable energy systems in federally subsidized housing and make
 it easier for homeowners to borrow money for solar panels. The White House
 said the plan will help continue to scale up solar for all Americans,
 including those who are renters, lack the startup capital to invest in
 solar, or do not have adequate information on how to transition to solar
 energy.

 We need to expand opportunities for more families to reap the benefits
 of using cleaner sources of energy that can also help households save money
 on their utility bills, Brian Deese, Obama's top energy adviser, said
 Monday.

 Deese and Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., will travel to Baltimore Tuesday
 to roll out the program with a key component from the Energy Department to
 help build neighborhood solar farms that don't require panels to be
 installed on the roofs of homes and businesses. It's meant to make solar an
 option to renters who can't install solar panels on rooftops.

 Deese said the Energy Department will provide low-cost financing,
 particularly to households, and improve our government lending programs to
 make them easier to utilize so that it's easier for individuals to take
 advantage of this benefit.

 Deese said the program includes commitments totaling about $520 million
 from investors, charities, states and cities to pay for solar and
 energy-efficient projects for lower-income communities. The program will
 not only help the planet but also help local residents, Cummings said.

 The difference in a monthly bill of $10 or $15 means a lot to the people
 who live on my block, Cummings said.


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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

2015-07-07 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
A recent Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
article, however, has revealed that China’s booming solar industry is not
as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic pollution
in Chinese villages and farmlands.

The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to the
lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents.
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650



On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:11 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 White House to unveil solar panel program for poor areas

 WASHINGTON, July 7 (UPI) -- The Obama administration will unveil a project
 Tuesday that will help low- and middle-income Americans obtain solar panels
 for energy production, taking another step in the president's goal of
 tackling climate change.

 The administration said by 2020 it plans to triple the capacity of solar
 and other renewable energy systems in federally subsidized housing and make
 it easier for homeowners to borrow money for solar panels. The White House
 said the plan will help continue to scale up solar for all Americans,
 including those who are renters, lack the startup capital to invest in
 solar, or do not have adequate information on how to transition to solar
 energy.

 We need to expand opportunities for more families to reap the benefits of
 using cleaner sources of energy that can also help households save money on
 their utility bills, Brian Deese, Obama's top energy adviser, said Monday.

 Deese and Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., will travel to Baltimore Tuesday to
 roll out the program with a key component from the Energy Department to
 help build neighborhood solar farms that don't require panels to be
 installed on the roofs of homes and businesses. It's meant to make solar an
 option to renters who can't install solar panels on rooftops.

 Deese said the Energy Department will provide low-cost financing,
 particularly to households, and improve our government lending programs to
 make them easier to utilize so that it's easier for individuals to take
 advantage of this benefit.

 Deese said the program includes commitments totaling about $520 million
 from investors, charities, states and cities to pay for solar and
 energy-efficient projects for lower-income communities. The program will
 not only help the planet but also help local residents, Cummings said.

 The difference in a monthly bill of $10 or $15 means a lot to the people
 who live on my block, Cummings said.


 http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/07/07/White-House-to-unveil-solar-panel-program-for-poor-areas/7101436275343/?spt=secor=tn

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