Re: [MBZ] Trump card
When hell freezes over? On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Getting in the race is easy now. And, with name recognition you can win mby losing - land a lucrative broadcast TV gig, like Herman Cain, Huckerly, and Sarah Painin. Andew, why so one sided? You can only name 3? nearly everyone else in the media has worked for clintons, obummer or somebody else! GeoSnuflleuphagus? Unbiased? SUUre and when are you sending payment for that tropical resort in Maine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Great entertainment, dems are pretty boring right now. Bernie needs to come up with something big if he wants any press this week. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Huh? you mean there are others running? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
On July 22, 2015 at 10:29 AM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 'Better than SNL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEb_epsuLqA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
He called our Miss Lindsey an idiot yesterday and gave out Miss Lindsey's mobile number which promptly got flooded and Miss Lindsey has to get another number. Too funny. Miss Lindsey called The Donald stupid and a jackass. I love it. --R Miz Lindsey should pack up and go home. He is WAY out of his league. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
So, I have to wait till spring to see a Pit Bull fight between Trump and Hillary? Should I call Michael Vic and urge him to sign on as Hillarys' trainer? Ohhh.. wait.. she could be in jail by then... seems the congressional committee investigating her keep finding more law breaking... Popcorn anyone? The show is about to start.. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max, for once we agree. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think Hillary is just sitting back laughing right now, bidding her time. Neither Bernie nor Mallory are really a threat, so she's letting the R's tear each other up. R's have a problem, big part of the base loves Trump and his attacks on the old elephants. Hillary may wait until the time is ripe before she gets into full campaign mode, probably late in the winter or early spring. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I'm just amazed that all these little guys are getting into the race, especially when they have *got* to know they don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. Is it just to have bragging rights the I once ran for President? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I think Hillary is just sitting back laughing right now, bidding her time. Neither Bernie nor Mallory are really a threat, so she's letting the R's tear each other up. R's have a problem, big part of the base loves Trump and his attacks on the old elephants. Hillary may wait until the time is ripe before she gets into full campaign mode, probably late in the winter or early spring. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Max, for once we agree. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think Hillary is just sitting back laughing right now, bidding her time. Neither Bernie nor Mallory are really a threat, so she's letting the R's tear each other up. R's have a problem, big part of the base loves Trump and his attacks on the old elephants. Hillary may wait until the time is ripe before she gets into full campaign mode, probably late in the winter or early spring. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Great entertainment, dems are pretty boring right now. Bernie needs to come up with something big if he wants any press this week. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Huh? you mean there are others running? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
This is like Floriduhs last gubernatorial election. Scott, the former healthcare syndicate CEO who avoided prosecution, got back into office because Charlie Crist and others decided they wanted to play in the sandbox all at the same time. It split the dissenting vote into a bunch of little factions, all far too small to be a threat to Skeletor Scott. Right now, the Republicans have so many potential candidates that are all trying to appeal to various blocks of voters that if the election happened today they wouldn't have anything remotely approaching a majority. Not to mention that The Donald keeps dredging up topics none of the others want to address, keeping them miles away from any sort of meaningful public discussions. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 22, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think Hillary is just sitting back laughing right now, bidding her time. Neither Bernie nor Mallory are really a threat, so she's letting the R's tear each other up. R's have a problem, big part of the base loves Trump and his attacks on the old elephants. Hillary may wait until the time is ripe before she gets into full campaign mode, probably late in the winter or early spring. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Another way to look at it: R's get all the in-fighting out of their system now, by next spring there should be a clear winner or maybe just a couple, then plenty of time to get over the hurt feelings and get to work. Die-hard R's and D's can't be swayed, but independents sometimes wait until the last couple of months or even less before they start paying attention. I think Trump's polling numbers jumped, indicating approval for his so-called attack on McCain, which according to Flush Limbaugh means that the lamestream media's ability to influence voters has greatly declined. However, there is only one poll that counts, still about 15 months away... - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not to mention that The Donald keeps dredging up topics none of the others want to address, keeping them miles away from any sort of meaningful public discussions. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Dan wrote: I'm just amazed that all these little guys are getting into the race... One guy sez KochBros put Trump up to bashing Jeb, etc so they drop and then let Walker rule the field. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Well... Hope springs eternal. After all, we have now had 6 years of someone who was a complete unknown, who as a member of Congress was absent for nearly every vote, who has more UN-answered questions about his past than answered. Seems his anointed replacement is claiming to be broke, when she isn't... Why not make a run at it.. Strange things happen in elections.. I was nominated for President of a Sorority once... seems I was the most popular person sleeping at the Sorority house regularly.. As unlikely as it seemed at the time.. I lost the election... but it was fun running ;)) On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm just amazed that all these little guys are getting into the race, especially when they have *got* to know they don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. Is it just to have bragging rights the I once ran for President? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
He called our Miss Lindsey an idiot yesterday and gave out Miss Lindsey's mobile number which promptly got flooded and Miss Lindsey has to get another number. Too funny. Miss Lindsey called The Donald stupid and a jackass. I love it. --R On 7/22/15 8:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: As I have said before, I don't think trump is historically illiterate. His handler (donald Trump) should tell the candidate to lay out all this and back up his statement made last Sat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
Yes that's correct. It's body metal etc that is different as well as,feont seat bottoms' floor mats,etc. On Jul 22, 2015 12:13 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe Coupe and Sedan are same light housing and lens. I was hoping to score a full set of new ones to go into the restoration. I would like to make it as close to new as possible, and lights and trim are those little details that need to look fresh to look new. The Coupe is an Arizona car, so no rust, but major sun damage.. Plastic parts are turned to dust in AZ sun, as well as interiors.. this Coupe has received 33 years of relentless AZ sun. Schedule is for a full bare frame tear down to bare metal for repaint [AZ sun again]. Re-assembly will require all the rubber bits, glass, and interior, including recovering the dash pad. Martha will be moving in full time, it seems.. ha Grant... On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One side or both? I might have one in my pile. It'd be in good but probably not great shape. The coupes aren't special for those are they? -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I think Hillary is just sitting back laughing right now, bidding her time. Neither Bernie nor Mallory are really a threat, so she's letting the R's tear each other up. R's have a problem, big part of the base loves Trump and his attacks on the old elephants. Hillary may wait until the time is ripe before she gets into full campaign mode, probably late in the winter or early spring. - Max Charleston SC the witch is definitely sitting back on her ol fat white a**, watching the money roll in for the free willy campaign, and making verdamt sure no mere mortals can talk to her. Dunno about the rest ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Right? The media only has space for one candidate at a time. It amazes me how fast Hilary fell off the plate... Curt Pillory never wanted to run. It expected to be crowned. Bernweinie is kicking pillory out of the ring. I've gotta agree with Rich. THis is like a early 1800s campaign, but with instant communication. Very entertaining. Go Bernweinie Go Trump! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Getting in the race is easy now. And, with name recognition you can win mby losing - land a lucrative broadcast TV gig, like Herman Cain, Huckerly, and Sarah Painin. Andew, why so one sided? You can only name 3? nearly everyone else in the media has worked for clintons, obummer or somebody else! GeoSnuflleuphagus? Unbiased? SUUre and when are you sending payment for that tropical resort in Maine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
Well if you want original blinkers http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W123-turn-signal-light-Hella-OEM-NOS-200-300D-280CE-240TD-230E-CE-/321809226780?hash=item4aed531c1cvxp=mtr and if you wanted to take a chance on non original lenses http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-tail-light-taillight-lens-Mercedes-w123-new-NOT-ORIGINAL-PARTS-pair-w-123-/201093644816?hash=item2ed21d8210vxp=mtr Manfred From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Getting in the race is easy now. And, with name recognition you can win mby losing - land a lucrative broadcast TV gig, like Herman Cain, Huckerly, and Sarah Painin. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: I'm just amazed that all these little guys are getting into the race... One guy sez KochBros put Trump up to bashing Jeb, etc so they drop and then let Walker rule the field. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Actually on the whole I'm finding the whole deal pretty boring, its 2012 all over again but this time the Dems are killing each other as much as the Reps. Fratricide seems to be all the parties are really good at. -Curt From: Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Great entertainment, dems are pretty boring right now. Bernie needs to come up with something big if he wants any press this week. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 22, 2015 9:34:18 AM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He called our Miss Lindsey an idiot yesterday and gave out Miss Lindsey's mobile number which promptly got flooded and Miss Lindsey has to get another number. Too funny. Miss Lindsey called The Donald stupid and a jackass. I love it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
'Better than SNL. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card He called our Miss Lindsey an idiot yesterday and gave out Miss Lindsey's mobile number which promptly got flooded and Miss Lindsey has to get another number. Too funny. Miss Lindsey called The Donald stupid and a jackass. I love it. --R On 7/22/15 8:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: As I have said before, I don't think trump is historically illiterate. His handler (donald Trump) should tell the candidate to lay out all this and back up his statement made last Sat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Great entertainment, dems are pretty boring right now. Bernie needs to come up with something big if he wants any press this week. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 22, 2015 9:34:18 AM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He called our Miss Lindsey an idiot yesterday and gave out Miss Lindsey's mobile number which promptly got flooded and Miss Lindsey has to get another number. Too funny. Miss Lindsey called The Donald stupid and a jackass. I love it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/ The above link may lay out some of the un-resolved McCain issues. As a party of the other side of the isle, you may find it of interest. McCain is not a shoe in ever again after the past 2 yrs of failing to preform for his electorate. He has been effective at disguising the black cloud that follows him every were.. however, it has caught up with him again.. Censured by the Republican party in AZ... AND the National Republican Party as well... I was the primary care giver for the widow of one of the missing vets in Vietnam for the past 2 yrs while she died of cancer. One of her last requests was that I find the true and whole story of what actually happened to her husband, who was also a service friend of mine. He, and 9 men under his command all went MIA at the same time. As you will see from the link above, McCain has done his best to ensure that will not happen, along with John I write my own purple hearts Kerry. Upon reflection and review of the true facts.. Trump may have been both brutal and honest. Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... Stealership, fleabay, classic center Sir, Thank you once again for illuminating the facts. McLame is despicable IMHO, for many reasons, and you have just illuminated more. This coverup is what moved mclame in my mind from nauseating to despicable. He is maybe only one step above Kerry mcHeinz. There is nothing lower than kerry that I can think of. As I have said before, I don't think trump is historically illiterate. His handler (donald Trump) should tell the candidate to lay out all this and back up his statement made last Sat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/18/donald-trump-john-mccain-not-a-war-hero-vietnam-video/ I believe this video clip shows the actual words Trump said. However, even this is a clipped clip and it seems the news media is failing to post the full interview... Personally, I'm feeling manipulated. I'd like them to just give the full facts, I'll make my own choices and decisions. Regards comment above about rockets on USS Forestall. Here is the info I have. McCain was not a great pilot. He holds a record for destruction of American aircraft prior to being shot down. He was a big ego hotdog [so it is said] who practiced a full flame hot start that comes from deliberately over fueling on engine start to give a burst of fire and flame out the tail pipe on ignition. Story is, McCain did that in the fully armed fighter stack on the ship. That caused the plane next to and slightly behind him to cook off the under wing rockets in an UN-commanded rocket launch down the flight deck, which caught the ship on fire and caused the greatest loss of life of American sailors since WW2. Story continues that McCain [son of Admiral McCain] was Immediately flown off the ship, even before injured and burned crew members]. I was not there, so it's only second hand info.. from people who were there, so take it as that. There was an inquiry. That is documented record, but sealed details. He was given a free pass on the incident, and it did not set well with the other navy pilots or ship crew. He was re-assigned post incident, which in military speak says the brass were not that happy with the inquiry results, either. It was after that incident that he was conveniently shot down over North Vietnam. Speculation at the time, and remaining, is that it could have been friendly fire. We will never know for sure, Vietnam was happy to hold and charge him as a war criminal and the Navy pilot [if any] that cooked off a rocket up his tailpipe [if that happened] will never talk. Post release from North Vietnam, he was charged with aiding and abetting the enemy, and those complaints can be found in full with a bit of effort. He was given a Presidential Pardon which quashed those charges [again, skuttlebutt says Admiral fathers influence saved him from yet another embarrassment]. So, even though I know the man, voted for him, shook his hand on numerous occasions, and thanked him for his service to the country.. he does not like me because I always ask ego bruising questions about his present performance as Senator and head of the Armed Services Committee. Un-like Trump.. I ask for his resignation, which really pissed off his ego. Popcorn and drinks anyone... let us watch the show.. it should be entertaining for the next 12 months... Grant... Who has been busy in spare moments preparing his new 300CD Coupe for full restoration. It should be a beauty [in the eyes of the owner, at least]. PS: I note that Hillary's tell all book has for the past 32 weeks been outsold by the book on Colon Cleansing, however... Just saying.. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt at fragging aimed at little john. At any rate, he was NOT well liked in his squadron. Probably not on the float Anyone know for sure if the rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't. I have not researched it. I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat. In context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but rather a comment just about mclame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
In a sense, Trump was right - McCain and others would not have been so famous and considered so heroic if they had not been shot down and captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable. But for the Grace of God there was I. I'm not so sure I could have endured the many years of captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely thankful that I never had to try. Those of us lucky enough to have NOT been shot down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was willing to exchange places with a POW. I have great respect for every one them and what they endured. So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it like that - well, Trump, who dodged such service completely, can't (shouldn't), anyway. Wilton From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt at fragging aimed at little john. At any rate, he was NOT well liked in his squadron. Probably not on the float Anyone know for sure if the rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't. I have not researched it. I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat. In context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but rather a comment just about mclame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Doug_Neidermeyer Killed by his platoon in Vietnam. Dan The Stork Sent from my iPad On Jul 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/18/donald-trump-john-mccain-not-a-war-hero-vietnam-video/ I believe this video clip shows the actual words Trump said. However, even this is a clipped clip and it seems the news media is failing to post the full interview... Personally, I'm feeling manipulated. I'd like them to just give the full facts, I'll make my own choices and decisions. Regards comment above about rockets on USS Forestall. Here is the info I have. McCain was not a great pilot. He holds a record for destruction of American aircraft prior to being shot down. He was a big ego hotdog [so it is said] who practiced a full flame hot start that comes from deliberately over fueling on engine start to give a burst of fire and flame out the tail pipe on ignition. Story is, McCain did that in the fully armed fighter stack on the ship. That caused the plane next to and slightly behind him to cook off the under wing rockets in an UN-commanded rocket launch down the flight deck, which caught the ship on fire and caused the greatest loss of life of American sailors since WW2. Story continues that McCain [son of Admiral McCain] was Immediately flown off the ship, even before injured and burned crew members]. I was not there, so it's only second hand info.. from people who were there, so take it as that. There was an inquiry. That is documented record, but sealed details. He was given a free pass on the incident, and it did not set well with the other navy pilots or ship crew. He was re-assigned post incident, which in military speak says the brass were not that happy with the inquiry results, either. It was after that incident that he was conveniently shot down over North Vietnam. Speculation at the time, and remaining, is that it could have been friendly fire. We will never know for sure, Vietnam was happy to hold and charge him as a war criminal and the Navy pilot [if any] that cooked off a rocket up his tailpipe [if that happened] will never talk. Post release from North Vietnam, he was charged with aiding and abetting the enemy, and those complaints can be found in full with a bit of effort. He was given a Presidential Pardon which quashed those charges [again, skuttlebutt says Admiral fathers influence saved him from yet another embarrassment]. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Well said, Wilton. Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect. I know three John McCain The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited from and used to his advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low regard. The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having endured the endless torture and privation. The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little, who dumped and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the while he was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold that one in pretty low regard also. Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is smart and ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see an apology in the future. McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action. Trump, even if defeated will have left his mark before it's over in how DC elites do business. Frankly, it's the kind of hope and change much of America had in mind when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be interesting to watch them run away from it now. Question: If Germany had not made war on the civilized world, would we be driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been discovered in America? On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:01 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a sense, Trump was right - McCain and others would not have been so famous and considered so heroic if they had not been shot down and captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable. But for the Grace of God there was I. I'm not so sure I could have endured the many years of captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely thankful that I never had to try. Those of us lucky enough to have NOT been shot down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was willing to exchange places with a POW. I have great respect for every one them and what they endured. So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it like that - well, Trump, who dodged such service completely, can't (shouldn't), anyway. Wilton From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt at fragging aimed at little john. At any rate, he was NOT well liked in his squadron. Probably not on the float Anyone know for sure if the rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't. I have not researched it. I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat. In context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but rather a comment just about mclame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
We BUFF guys also held John Mc in low regard; his treatment of his wife sealed it for me. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Well said, Wilton. Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect. I know three John McCain The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited from and used to his advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low regard. The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having endured the endless torture and privation. The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little, who dumped and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the while he was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold that one in pretty low regard also. Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is smart and ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see an apology in the future. McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action. Trump, even if defeated will have left his mark before it's over in how DC elites do business. Frankly, it's the kind of hope and change much of America had in mind when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be interesting to watch them run away from it now. Question: If Germany had not made war on the civilized world, would we be driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been discovered in America? On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:01 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In a sense, Trump was right - McCain and others would not have been so famous and considered so heroic if they had not been shot down and captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable. But for the Grace of God there was I. I'm not so sure I could have endured the many years of captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely thankful that I never had to try. Those of us lucky enough to have NOT been shot down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was willing to exchange places with a POW. I have great respect for every one them and what they endured. So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it like that - well, Trump, who dodged such service completely, can't (shouldn't), anyway. Wilton From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt at fragging aimed at little john. At any rate, he was NOT well liked in his squadron. Probably not on the float Anyone know for sure if the rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't. I have not researched it. I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat. In context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but rather a comment just about mclame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
PS: I note that Hillary's tell all book has for the past 32 weeks been outsold by the book on Colon Cleansing, however... Just saying.. ] That is Hillarious! (pun intended or not) Thanks man, for the details! I don't believe trump is historically illiterate as I and the media are. He is a smart guy. I tend to forget the details, but I remembered there was a smoking gun of some sort. McLame is fishy. Trump said so. I can't fault a man for speaking the truth. It is so rare. I applaud anyone who speaks the truth. You are a great American! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
One side or both? I might have one in my pile. It'd be in good but probably not great shape. The coupes aren't special for those are they? -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
I believe Coupe and Sedan are same light housing and lens. I was hoping to score a full set of new ones to go into the restoration. I would like to make it as close to new as possible, and lights and trim are those little details that need to look fresh to look new. The Coupe is an Arizona car, so no rust, but major sun damage.. Plastic parts are turned to dust in AZ sun, as well as interiors.. this Coupe has received 33 years of relentless AZ sun. Schedule is for a full bare frame tear down to bare metal for repaint [AZ sun again]. Re-assembly will require all the rubber bits, glass, and interior, including recovering the dash pad. Martha will be moving in full time, it seems.. ha Grant... On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One side or both? I might have one in my pile. It'd be in good but probably not great shape. The coupes aren't special for those are they? -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
No coupes and wagons same as sedan. 123 coupes same as sedans overall from A pillar forward. Behind A pillar Coupe parts are PITA to find On Jul 21, 2015 9:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One side or both? I might have one in my pile. It'd be in good but probably not great shape. The coupes aren't special for those are they? -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
Thanks ! All the links work fine. Euro turn lens made in China? No new tail light assembly any were? I see one listed as new on Fleabay link. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:43 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I can't vote in AZ, unlike you. Well a whole lot of hatin' going on. If he is so despised how come he is a shoo-in to get renominated/reelected? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Well said, Wilton. Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect. I know three John McCain The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited from and used to his advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low regard. The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having endured the endless torture and privation. The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little, who dumped and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the while he was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold that one in pretty low regard also. Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is smart and ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see an apology in the future. McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action. Trump, even if defeated will have left his mark before it's over in how DC elites do business. Frankly, it's the kind of hope and change much of America had in mind when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be interesting to watch them run away from it now. Hear here! I respect # 2 for what he endured, But #s 1 and 3 are a$$holes. I will have to be convinced that trump meant anything less. And in trumps winner take all world, being captured is worse than being dead. particularly with his radio hanoi broadcasts. Question: If Germany had not made war on the civilized world, would we be driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been discovered in America? I'd guess the answers would still be yes and yes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card - tail lights
Grant -do you mean the plastic shrouds? I just bought one from Gary one on ebay for my 82 300CD. I think Gary has another Bosch pair. On Jul 21, 2015 6:44 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant try here http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1982/mercedes/300cd/body_electrical/headlight_frame.html and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w123-Turn-Signal-Light-assy-L-R-x2-URO-blinker-corner-parking-lamp-/351453075475?hash=item51d43c5813vxp=mtr and tail lights you have to pick from http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=82+mercedes+tail+light_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=m570.l1313_nkw=82+mercedes+w123+tail+light_sacat=0 Hope the links work. Manfred Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:26 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Mercedes question: Anyone know where I can buy new headlight surround assemblies for my new 82 300 CD Coupe? Also tailights.. and turn lights.. Hopefully not made in China? Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
Grant wrote: Votes or bullets... To date... except for Civil War... it's always been votes... It seems that the commie regime that has ruled here for at least a generation won't let vote be effective. Overboard capitalism = commie. viz Vlad today, overboard capitalism here. ...ooops... rule#1 don't use obvious names or NSA triggers engage... Thanks to Curly for teaching that. Real commie seems nice but there ain't no real place that has been tried. i.e. responsible individual freedom without central bank control, devoid of central bank currency, resulting in rule of diverse law. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt at fragging aimed at little john. At any rate, he was NOT well liked in his squadron. Probably not on the float Anyone know for sure if the rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't. I have not researched it. I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat. In context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but rather a comment just about mclame. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Think the Trump card is still on the table? He's done, again... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque Andrew... Being in the protected and isolated beltway of DC you likely don't realize that Soros and other like him are the real reason Trump has leaped to the leadership position in two weeks after filing to run for President. Trump stands up, speaks up, and won't shut up, because he is not intimidated by anyone. The rest of America west of the Potomac River are truly and well pissed at the District of Corruption, Soros, and the evil they represent. So, Yes, a little bio discourse on Soros ... and others.. is actually about Trump... who in plain words, without doing the PC Dance says what Americans have been saying for the past 30 yrs.. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this any more just about sums it up for most Americans, about now. Some correlation to the huge increase in sales of as sault rye fles and their expendables since the mos lem pre sident was elected and a continual stream of atrocities have been committed by the 9 okoles in black robes and the cons in gress. I'm just waiting for the mann to say it is time to go... Time to play the trump card? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Dissing McLame the insane is hardly a disqualifier. Media is hammering him because he is a threat to pillary machine. Real merkuns don't pay attention to the media. Even gramnesty the spineless tried to make points by bashing the trumpster. Think the Trump card is still on the table? He's done, again... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I did not hear his original comments but in reading an article this morning it seems that what is being reported was a very small snippet taken out of context, where he goes on to say several times he is a hero. The guy is a huckster and promoter, so he is going to huck and promote, anything to get his noise out there for free. --R (no particular love for the Don, or any others at this point, who would however love to see Carly and Hillary! have at in a cage match) On 7/20/15 2:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: He dissed every soldier that ever spent time in captivity. Mark my works, he's gonna pay for that one. It was a very stupid statement which will go right along with calling all Mexicans rapists. He's done, good ideas or not he'll never get elected. I hear very little about Hillary right now Bernie seems to be the new darling. Its less of Hilary as the presumed nominee which was a stupid statement anyway this far in advance and all Bernie this and Bernie that... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Dissing McLame the insane is hardly a disqualifier. Media is hammering him because he is a threat to pillary machine. Real merkuns don't pay attention to the media. Even gramnesty the spineless tried to make points by bashing the trumpster. Think the Trump card is still on the table? He's done, again... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
The way I see it, within the next few months Trump will have alienated all but a very small core group of Republicans, and at that point he'll become irrelevant. The guy does seem to be a bit of a train wreck in slow motion. Someone I was talking to this past weekend mentioned his handlers, and how they needed to get him on track. Handlers? What handlers? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He dissed every soldier that ever spent time in captivity. Mark my works, he's gonna pay for that one. It was a very stupid statement which will go right along with calling all Mexicans rapists. He's done, good ideas or not he'll never get elected. I hear very little about Hillary right now Bernie seems to be the new darling. Its less of Hilary as the presumed nominee which was a stupid statement anyway this far in advance and all Bernie this and Bernie that... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Dissing McLame the insane is hardly a disqualifier. Media is hammering him because he is a threat to pillary machine. Real merkuns don't pay attention to the media. Even gramnesty the spineless tried to make points by bashing the trumpster. Think the Trump card is still on the table? He's done, again... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
He dissed every soldier that ever spent time in captivity. Mark my works, he's gonna pay for that one. It was a very stupid statement which will go right along with calling all Mexicans rapists. He's done, good ideas or not he'll never get elected. I hear very little about Hillary right now Bernie seems to be the new darling. Its less of Hilary as the presumed nominee which was a stupid statement anyway this far in advance and all Bernie this and Bernie that... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Dissing McLame the insane is hardly a disqualifier. Media is hammering him because he is a threat to pillary machine. Real merkuns don't pay attention to the media. Even gramnesty the spineless tried to make points by bashing the trumpster. Think the Trump card is still on the table? He's done, again... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Lol, is that like being your own lawyer? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2015 5:17:02 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Since he has $10,000,000,000 and it seems to have worked rather well.. handling yourself must pay well. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, is that like being your own lawyer? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2015 5:17:02 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Good point, we actually had some contributions (on topic!) from new folks and some old who haven't been too active. Maybe that was because I stopped taking Andrew seriously? I heard _The Don_ speak at a local gathering last fall at the Citadel, he warmed up the room for Tim Scott, but upstaged him. My wife really enjoyed his accent and direct manner of speaking, he really doesn't care who gets offended. Very entertaining. I'd love to hear his first State of the Union address, I suspect we'd have multiple instances from the Dem side of outbursts like Joe You Lie! Wilson. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2015 5:38:08 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did he ever drive a Mercedes? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Give him 10 years, he'll lose it all again... -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Since he has $10,000,000,000 and it seems to have worked rather well.. handling yourself must pay well. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, is that like being your own lawyer? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2015 5:17:02 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Dan wrote: The guy does seem to be a bit of a train wreck in slow motion. Sounds somewhat like... Sarah? Flash in the pan. Flash-in-the-pan is characteristic of anyone in a field of 15 contenders this early in the gig. The field included Grant and Curly and Dan - but you guys flamed out already. It's early. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
He is his own handler... On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: The guy does seem to be a bit of a train wreck in slow motion. Sounds somewhat like... Sarah? Flash in the pan. Flash-in-the-pan is characteristic of anyone in a field of 15 contenders this early in the gig. The field included Grant and Curly and Dan - but you guys flamed out already. It's early. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Did he ever drive a Mercedes? On Jul 20, 2015 5:36 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I believe he does, Thanks. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did he ever drive a Mercedes? On Jul 20, 2015 5:36 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
Grant wrote: Message there? I would think there may be one.. Yes, but how does that match with your concept of orderly revolt? Bullets don't seem orderly? Bullets and vote sounds commie? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
Mao, A government that fears its Citizens is orderly A government whose citizens fear government is Terr-any . 1st Amendment of Bill of Rights gives Citizens the right to redress of government. 2nd Amendment of Bill of Rights gives Citizens the right to make that redress happen. Votes or bullets... To date... except for Civil War... it's always been votes... On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant wrote: Message there? I would think there may be one.. Yes, but how does that match with your concept of orderly revolt? Bullets don't seem orderly? Bullets and vote sounds commie? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
G Mann wrote: I predict an orderly revolt at the ballot box. Mitch wrote: Revolt at the ballot box? The same voters who gave 98.6% of their votes to JohnBarack McBama? The same voters who gave 98.3% of their votes to BarackMittens O'Romney? Let's face it, we have a party of the fast march to Communism, Was that the voters - or the vote _counters_. It matters not how the people vote if at the end of the day the casting and counting don't match. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
I'm vaguely familiar with it - forgot a bunch of it. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
Then he will get back up and start over Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Give him 10 years, he'll lose it all again... -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Since he has $10,000,000,000 and it seems to have worked rather well.. handling yourself must pay well. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, is that like being your own lawyer? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2015 5:17:02 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card
'Topic of discussion in USAF SAC alert facilities at the time. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card I'm vaguely familiar with it - forgot a bunch of it. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton? Over North Vietnam radio? Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know he got a Presidential Pardon? Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is really made of. Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the true facts.. Just saying.. Go digging. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or, better said, he handles himself? grin Dan On Jul 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He is his own handler... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I predict an orderly revolt at the ballot box. I further predict, should that be perverted by the likes of Soros controlling the vote count, a full on revolt by well and truly pissed off American Citizens who, once in motion will be slow to cool down.. Revolt at the ballot box? The same voters who gave 98.6% of their votes to JohnBarack McBama? The same voters who gave 98.3% of their votes to BarackMittens O'Romney? Support for more of the same is dropping at a rate of 0.3% in four years? Should we expect HillaryJohn ClintonsBush to get 98.0%? Let's face it, we have a party of the fast march to Communism, and a party that just wants to get itself elected, and will hop on the Commietrain as long as it thinks that's the way to minimize its damage from the leftist press. And a flock of sheeple that will vote for those two no matter what. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I give proper lip service to the ballot box. All the points you raise is exactly why arms and ammunition sales have set new records each week since 20 Jan 2008. In the midst of the worst financial depression since 1928, when Citizens have less disposable wealth... they are voting with their wallet to arm themselves... in huge numbers Message there? I would think there may be one.. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I predict an orderly revolt at the ballot box. I further predict, should that be perverted by the likes of Soros controlling the vote count, a full on revolt by well and truly pissed off American Citizens who, once in motion will be slow to cool down.. Revolt at the ballot box? The same voters who gave 98.6% of their votes to JohnBarack McBama? The same voters who gave 98.3% of their votes to BarackMittens O'Romney? Support for more of the same is dropping at a rate of 0.3% in four years? Should we expect HillaryJohn ClintonsBush to get 98.0%? Let's face it, we have a party of the fast march to Communism, and a party that just wants to get itself elected, and will hop on the Commietrain as long as it thinks that's the way to minimize its damage from the leftist press. And a flock of sheeple that will vote for those two no matter what. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew... Being in the protected and isolated beltway of DC you likely don't realize that Soros and other like him are the real reason Trump has leaped to the leadership position in two weeks after filing to run for President. Trump stands up, speaks up, and won't shut up, because he is not intimidated by anyone. The rest of America west of the Potomac River are truly and well pissed at the District of Corruption, Soros, and the evil they represent. So, Yes, a little bio discourse on Soros ... and others.. is actually about Trump... who in plain words, without doing the PC Dance says what Americans have been saying for the past 30 yrs.. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this any more just about sums it up for most Americans, about now. Some correlation to the huge increase in sales of as sault rye fles and their expendables since the mos lem pre sident was elected and a continual stream of atrocities have been committed by the 9 okoles in black robes and the cons in gress. I'm just waiting for the mann to say it is time to go... Time to play the trump card? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant wrote: I predict an orderly revolt at the ballot box. C'mon - you seem reasonable. But this prediction must be Grant smoking peyote out there. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
The ballot box will only work IF an American is on the ballot in place of the usual socilist vs maxist/comminist choices AND (as you pointed out) IF sorry as crew can't successfully stuff the ballot boxes as usual. History repeats itself. Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Adolph Chamberlain has more tricks up his sleeve. His namesake burned the bundestag, then disbanded it by executive order. Chamberlain has already neutered the gress of con. He is following the same plan. I predict a fire or other event will lead to disbanding the 435 cons and assumption of dictatorial status. Marty al law will be next, probably in the same teleprompter reading. At that point sore ross will be in control. True evil. A Bond villain or batman/superman villain with a puppet. then the cultural rev ol ution will begin. Sure ria law is adolph's goal. Some where in this process the call toa rms will occur. At this point the trump card may be in play. Not pretty, but lets revisit the topic in 2 years and see if the pre diction did or did not prove accurate. As amazing as it may seem, after listening to the hoplophobic media, in 60+ years, I have never had a rifle assault me on its own. I do find it worthy of notice however, the latest murder by muslim was committed in a gun free zone just like the last 20 or so such multiple murders. Apparently, criminals can't read the signs. Imagine that. Perhaps a bright muzzle flash would provide them the proper illumination so they could read the sign? I predict an orderly revolt at the ballot box. I further predict, should that be perverted by the likes of Soros controlling the vote count, a full on revolt by well and truly pissed off American Citizens who, once in motion will be slow to cool down.. I do hope we don't go there. However, being the Capitalist I am.. I've bought future positions in rope and axe handles... and I do hold the production rights to a Guillotine design .. Just in case. Have a nice day ! On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew... Being in the protected and isolated beltway of DC you likely don't realize that Soros and other like him are the real reason Trump has leaped to the leadership position in two weeks after filing to run for President. Trump stands up, speaks up, and won't shut up, because he is not intimidated by anyone. The rest of America west of the Potomac River are truly and well pissed at the District of Corruption, Soros, and the evil they represent. So, Yes, a little bio discourse on Soros ... and others.. is actually about Trump... who in plain words, without doing the PC Dance says what Americans have been saying for the past 30 yrs.. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this any more just about sums it up for most Americans, about now. Some correlation to the huge increase in sales of as sault rye fles and their expendables since the mos lem pre sident was elected and a continual stream of atrocities have been committed by the 9 okoles in black robes and the cons in gress. I'm just waiting for the mann to say it is time to go... Time to play the trump card? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
Soros has a big house in the Hamptons, next door to a friend of a friend, also next door to Roger Waters's house there. My friend has attended gatherings at which Soros has been, and he always appears with one of his young nieces. My buddy and I went to an event in Houston where Soros spoke (sponsored by The Progressive Forum) as my buddy wanted me to get some first-hand exposure to the guy. It was a fascinating evening hearing him speak in sort of a QA format (questions by the moderator then by some audience members). [BTW way I have met the friend of the friend, who is Czech, and whose family endured the hardships of the Nazis and the commies, and who managed to come to the US, get educated, and make a LOT of money -- he is a very nice guy, very smart, and quite savvy about people. He consorts with Soros occasionally to see what he is about, and also to keep tabs on what he is up to in his various political and business efforts) Soros is completely amoral, which became abundantly apparent from his answers to questions. One audience member asked him how he came to be like that (might not have actually asked him why we was amoral, but that was the gist of the question) and he related a story: His father had been captured by the Russians during WW2 and sent to Siberian prison camp. He managed to escape and over a period of a few months and returned to Budapest (I think it was) where he and George, themselves Jews, started ratting out Jews to the Nazis in exchange for money and whatever. George said he asked his father what he did to make it back, and the father replied, Whatever it took and that was the lesson George used in his own life. So, not only was he complicit in the murders of many Jews by the Nazis during the war, he continued/s his amoral practices in his business dealings and in his various progressive endeavors. Soros made on apologies for any of this, in fact seemed somewhat proud of it as he did whatever it took. One other interesting exchange was with a young guy from West Texas who had come to the meeting to see for himself what Soros was about. He stated this in his question, then asked why Soros was opposed to guns when he had seen what happened to people in the war who could not defend themselves, and who had been subjugated by the Nazis. Soros started some song and dance about well I'm not really opposed blah blah and the kid just would not let him worm out of it. The kid sounded like a total West Texas goober but he was quite smart and very tenacious. At some point he referenced the gun he had in his pocket and I thought a lot of the audience was going to soil their pants right then and there. This goes back and forth for a few minutes, the kid had Soros all tied up and basically told him in a very firm and polite way that he was evil and a hypocrite, and the audience was going crazy, a lot of the old hippies yelling at the kid who threw it right back at them. it was on the verge of getting way out of control and the moderator finally shut everyone up, Soros made a few smartass comments that got the base cheering, but the old hippies were still mouthing off about the gun-totin kid who cleaned Soros mighty well. Soros is a truly evil person. --R On 7/17/15 10:35 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Curt sez: Sadly both Trump and Walker are nuts and exceptionally good at making bad decisions. Trump takes chances and regularly goes bankrupt, can't do that with a country... Uh... this country has been bankrupt many times and is now. It has probably spent more time insolvent than solvent. Trump also knows how to recover quickly from bankruptcy and come out better and stronger. Not someone I'd want to sit and talk with , but you can't deny his financial success I can;t think of anyone else in the country that has his clout. I don't think sor os lives in the usa, but his clout is used for shear evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One other interesting exchange was with a young guy from West Texas who had come to the meeting to see for himself what Soros was about. He stated this in his question, then asked why Soros was opposed to guns when he had seen what happened to people in the war who could not defend themselves, and who had been subjugated by the Nazis. Soros started some song and dance about well I'm not really opposed blah blah and the kid just would not let him worm out of it. The kid sounded like a total West Texas goober but he was quite smart and very tenacious. At some point he referenced the gun he had in his pocket and I thought a lot of the audience was going to soil their pants right then and there. This goes back and forth for a few minutes, the kid had Soros all tied up and basically told him in a very firm and polite way that he was evil and a hypocrite, and the audience was going crazy, a lot of the old hippies yelling at the kid who threw it right back at them. it was on the verge of getting way out of control and the moderator finally shut everyone up, Soros made a few smartass comments that got the base cheering, but the old hippies were still mouthing off about the gun-totin kid who cleaned Soros mighty well. Soros is a truly evil person. --R Is there video or audio of that exchange? It sounds delightful. Youboob.com? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How did we get from Trump to Soros?? Trump's story is way more interesting since he is running fo office.. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One other interesting exchange was with a young guy from West Texas who had come to the meeting to see for himself what Soros was about. He stated this in his question, then asked why Soros was opposed to guns when he had seen what happened to people in the war who could not defend themselves, and who had been subjugated by the Nazis. Soros started some song and dance about well I'm not really opposed blah blah and the kid just would not let him worm out of it. The kid sounded like a total West Texas goober but he was quite smart and very tenacious. At some point he referenced the gun he had in his pocket and I thought a lot of the audience was going to soil their pants right then and there. This goes back and forth for a few minutes, the kid had Soros all tied up and basically told him in a very firm and polite way that he was evil and a hypocrite, and the audience was going crazy, a lot of the old hippies yelling at the kid who threw it right back at them. it was on the verge of getting way out of control and the moderator finally shut everyone up, Soros made a few smartass comments that got the base cheering, but the old hippies were still mouthing off about the gun-totin kid who cleaned Soros mighty well. Soros is a truly evil person. --R Is there video or audio of that exchange? It sounds delightful. Youboob.com? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew... Being in the protected and isolated beltway of DC you likely don't realize that Soros and other like him are the real reason Trump has leaped to the leadership position in two weeks after filing to run for President. Trump stands up, speaks up, and won't shut up, because he is not intimidated by anyone. The rest of America west of the Potomac River are truly and well pissed at the District of Corruption, Soros, and the evil they represent. So, Yes, a little bio discourse on Soros ... and others.. is actually about Trump... who in plain words, without doing the PC Dance says what Americans have been saying for the past 30 yrs.. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this any more just about sums it up for most Americans, about now. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How did we get from Trump to Soros?? Trump's story is way more interesting since he is running fo office.. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One other interesting exchange was with a young guy from West Texas who had come to the meeting to see for himself what Soros was about. He stated this in his question, then asked why Soros was opposed to guns when he had seen what happened to people in the war who could not defend themselves, and who had been subjugated by the Nazis. Soros started some song and dance about well I'm not really opposed blah blah and the kid just would not let him worm out of it. The kid sounded like a total West Texas goober but he was quite smart and very tenacious. At some point he referenced the gun he had in his pocket and I thought a lot of the audience was going to soil their pants right then and there. This goes back and forth for a few minutes, the kid had Soros all tied up and basically told him in a very firm and polite way that he was evil and a hypocrite, and the audience was going crazy, a lot of the old hippies yelling at the kid who threw it right back at them. it was on the verge of getting way out of control and the moderator finally shut everyone up, Soros made a few smartass comments that got the base cheering, but the old hippies were still mouthing off about the gun-totin kid who cleaned Soros mighty well. Soros is a truly evil person. --R Is there video or audio of that exchange? It sounds delightful. Youboob.com? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trump card Was: Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 11:21:12 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Soros has a big house in the Hamptons, next door to a friend of a friend, also next door to Roger Waters's house there. My friend has attended gatherings at which Soros has been, and he always appears with one of his young nieces. My buddy and I went to an event in Houston where Soros spoke (sponsored by The Progressive Forum) as my buddy wanted me to get some first-hand exposure to the guy. It was a fascinating evening hearing him speak in sort of a QA format (questions by the moderator then by some audience members). [BTW way I have met the friend of the friend, who is Czech, and whose family endured the hardships of the Nazis and the commies, and who managed to come to the US, get educated, and make a LOT of money -- he is a very nice guy, very smart, and quite savvy about people. He consorts with Soros occasionally to see what he is about, and also to keep tabs on what he is up to in his various political and business efforts) Soros is completely amoral, which became abundantly apparent from his answers to questions. One audience member asked him how he came to be like that (might not have actually asked him why we was amoral, but that was the gist of the question) and he related a story: His father had been captured by the Russians during WW2 and sent to Siberian prison camp. He managed to escape and over a period of a few months and returned to Budapest (I think it was) where he and George, themselves Jews, started ratting out Jews to the Nazis in exchange for money and whatever. George said he asked his father what he did to make it back, and the father replied, Whatever it took and that was the lesson George used in his own life. So, not only was he complicit in the murders of many Jews by the Nazis during the war, he continued/s his amoral practices in his business dealings and in his various progressive endeavors. Soros made on apologies for any of this, in fact seemed somewhat proud of it as he did whatever it took. One other interesting exchange was with a young guy from West Texas who had come to the meeting to see for himself what Soros was about. He stated this in his question, then asked why Soros was opposed to guns when he had seen what happened to people in the war who could not defend themselves, and who had been subjugated by the Nazis. Soros started some song and dance about well I'm not really opposed blah blah and the kid just would not let him worm out of it. The kid sounded like a total West Texas goober but he was quite smart and very tenacious. At some point he referenced the gun he had in his pocket and I thought a lot of the audience was going to soil their pants right then and there. This goes back and forth for a few minutes, the kid had Soros all tied up and basically told him in a very firm and polite way that he was evil and a hypocrite, and the audience was going crazy, a lot of the old hippies yelling at the kid who threw it right back at them. it was on the verge of getting way out of control and the moderator finally shut everyone up, Soros made a few smartass comments that got the base cheering, but the old hippies were still mouthing off about the gun-totin kid who cleaned Soros mighty well. Soros is a truly evil person. --R Is he any different than the highest level Wall Street movers and shakers? Whether it's Soros or one of them, the methods and the results are the same. From what little I've read about him, he's a high stakes gambler in the currency markets who won big, and dabbles in politics. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
