Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is my third in less than a decade.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It seems like you've done a bunch of sphere replacements though. I guess
> with two cars...
> I think my new VW Golf needs brakes, I haven't done that in a few years.
> -Curt
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>  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
>
> Max, I only do serious DIY work under the supervision of factory trained
> techs at MBCA tech sessions held at MB dealerships on qweekends.  So far,
> no disappointments in nearly 30 years..
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Mao.What indeed?!The local, Lynn MA, people sorted it out for me. Hooray
> > for the human touch!
> >
> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:46:22 -0500
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
> > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > CC: maontin@gmail.com
> > >
> > > Fred wrote:
> > > > ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn,
> > they are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has
> me
> > baffled...
> > > >
> > >
> > > My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for
> > > delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa Cruz in the same
> > > day.  What is rong with this Magic Kingdom USPS these days?
> > > mao
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It seems like you've done a bunch of sphere replacements though. I guess with 
two cars...
I think my new VW Golf needs brakes, I haven't done that in a few years.
-Curt
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Fred Moir 
<fredh.s...@hotmail.com> 
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
   
Max, I only do serious DIY work under the supervision of factory trained
techs at MBCA tech sessions held at MB dealerships on qweekends.  So far,
no disappointments in nearly 30 years..

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mao.What indeed?!The local, Lynn MA, people sorted it out for me. Hooray
> for the human touch!
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:46:22 -0500
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: maontin@gmail.com
> >
> > Fred wrote:
> > > ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn,
> they are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me
> baffled...
> > >
> >
> > My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for
> > delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa Cruz in the same
> > day.  What is rong with this Magic Kingdom USPS these days?
> > mao
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Max, I only do serious DIY work under the supervision of factory trained
techs at MBCA tech sessions held at MB dealerships on qweekends.  So far,
no disappointments in nearly 30 years..

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mao.What indeed?!The local, Lynn MA, people sorted it out for me. Hooray
> for the human touch!
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:46:22 -0500
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: maontin@gmail.com
> >
> > Fred wrote:
> > > ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn,
> they are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me
> baffled...
> > >
> >
> > My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for
> > delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa Cruz in the same
> > day.  What is rong with this Magic Kingdom USPS these days?
> > mao
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I received mine on time Wednesday.  They are awesome, made in Germany
Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins
recommended.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> I was expecting my accumulators today or tomorrow. However they made it
> from Windsor CT. to Springfield MA in only 2 days, and now, instead of
> bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn, they are off on a scenic
> ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me baffled, confused even.I
> knocked over the TV and broke it. These things come in threes, so I'm off
> to bed!And to all, a good night.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

DIY, so it's zero cost to install.


Even leaving out your time, and the annoyance factor that comes
with having to do the same thing AGAIN, there will be fluid loss
and that stuff is not particularly cheap.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

$21 per liter.  Not a big deal.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> DIY, so it's zero cost to install.
>>
>
> Even leaving out your time, and the annoyance factor that comes
> with having to do the same thing AGAIN, there will be fluid loss
> and that stuff is not particularly cheap.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on
each accumulator, so that if they fail prior to about 100k miles / ten
years, you will be able to decide if they were really better than paying
more for the dealer parts.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I received mine on time Wednesday.  They are awesome, made in Germany
> Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins
> recommended.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well, dealer price was 300 % higher, so I think I will come out ahead, so
long as I don't live past 110.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on
> each accumulator, so that if they fail prior to about 100k miles / ten
> years, you will be able to decide if they were really better than paying
> more for the dealer parts.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I received mine on time Wednesday.  They are awesome, made in Germany
> > Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins
> > recommended.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Whats the installation cost?For instance if the dealer part was $300 vs $100 
for yours and the installation is $200 say.If the cheap ones last 5 years and 
the good ones last 10 years you'd have been $100 ahead to buy the more 
expensive part. Never mind that when they fail it'll be the least convenient 
time possible.
If you're in the middle of a big trip and drive on anyway since theres no hope 
of getting them replaced in the middle of nowhere and you then break a spring 
or other component you'd have been way ahead with the more expensive part.
Research the Sam Vimes theory of economic inequality.
-Curt
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 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
   
Well, dealer price was 300 % higher, so I think I will come out ahead, so
long as I don't live past 110.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on
> each accumulator, so that if they fail prior to about 100k miles / ten
> years, you will be able to decide if they were really better than paying
> more for the dealer parts.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I received mine on time Wednesday.  They are awesome, made in Germany
> > Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins
> > recommended.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

DIY, so it's zero cost to install.  Also, if one or both "fail" the rides
gets a little bouncier, which I actually don't mind.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Whats the installation cost?For instance if the dealer part was $300 vs
> $100 for yours and the installation is $200 say.If the cheap ones last 5
> years and the good ones last 10 years you'd have been $100 ahead to buy the
> more expensive part. Never mind that when they fail it'll be the least
> convenient time possible.
> If you're in the middle of a big trip and drive on anyway since theres no
> hope of getting them replaced in the middle of nowhere and you then break a
> spring or other component you'd have been way ahead with the more expensive
> part.
> Research the Sam Vimes theory of economic inequality.
> -Curt
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>; Meade Dillon <
> dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:43 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
>
> Well, dealer price was 300 % higher, so I think I will come out ahead, so
> long as I don't live past 110.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on
> > each accumulator, so that if they fail prior to about 100k miles / ten
> > years, you will be able to decide if they were really better than paying
> > more for the dealer parts.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I received mine on time Wednesday.  They are awesome, made in Germany
> > > Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins
> > > recommended.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Fred wrote:
> ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn, they 
> are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me 
> baffled...
>

My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for
delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa Cruz in the same
day.  What is rong with this Magic Kingdom USPS these days?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew,  I'll bet your hourly wage is not zero when you are at work.  Time
off from work is, in my opinion, worth more per hour that time at work
(that's why I'm not working overtime, unless I am).  One can use the hourly
salary number or a larger number, but that is the cost / hour for DIY work,
in my opinion.

Clearly, most of us enjoy DIY, and so we tend to overlook that cost.
Indeed, you may REALLY enjoy doing that job two or three times by deciding
to use lower quality components.  Personally, I only REALLY enjoy it the
first time (learning something new + satisfaction of DIY + higher
confidence that the work was done well and to a high quality), but with
subsequent iterations of the same work, especially if due to premature
failure of cheap components, the "enjoyment curve" begins to fall off
steeply...

Don't forget the risk that failed accumulators and the subsequent bouncy
ride are adding to the stress on the SLS control valve, which may then
fail, leading to the higher repair costs that Curt was alluding to.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> DIY, so it's zero cost to install.  Also, if one or both "fail" the rides
> gets a little bouncier, which I actually don't mind.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Mao.What indeed?!The local, Lynn MA, people sorted it out for me. Hooray for 
the human touch!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:46:22 -0500
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: maontin@gmail.com
> 
> Fred wrote:
> > ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn, they 
> > are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me 
> > baffled...
> >
> 
> My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for
> delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa Cruz in the same
> day.  What is rong with this Magic Kingdom USPS these days?
> mao
  
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