Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-14 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
On Jun 13, 2015 8:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Tommy,

 You need to go to the tent sale.  It’s well worth the trip and you can
snag some unbelievable deals on A-E shoes.  Definitely an item on any A-E
wearer’s bucket list.

 And you can meet up with the Doobie Brothers while you’re there.  Well,
at least one of them.


Well, I am driving through Wisconsin on Tuesday... but do you really get
better pricing on site than over the phone?  It is moot, alas; between
vacation, new glasses, and a broken dishwasher, I'm not buying any shoes
this month (or next).

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The tent sale is the week of July 4th, or the first week in July, if I recall 
correctly.  They probably have something about it on their web site.

When I lived in Port there were no deals at the factory, other than they almost 
always had just about any shoe you wanted out of their selection.

Dan

 On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, I am driving through Wisconsin on Tuesday... but do you really get
 better pricing on site than over the phone?  It is moot, alas; between
 vacation, new glasses, and a broken dishwasher, I'm not buying any shoes
 this month (or next).
 
 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Beats me, that’s why it’s best to check.  I recall it being around the end of 
June, first week of July, but the dates could change on a yearly basis.

What’s cool is that A-E uses this time to have a national sales meeting for all 
of their sales people, so the guy that’s waiting on you in the tent is often 
one of their regional sales people.  They’ll look over a shoe that’s tagged as 
a “second” and point out how one little stitch is a half a millimeter shorter 
than all the others.

You look at it and can’t tell the difference.

Dan


 On Jun 14, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I thought it was going to start this Thursday.
 I was planning on calling in a phone order to the Port Huron Shoebank.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The tent sale is the week of July 4th, or the first week in July, if I recall 
correctly.  They probably have something about it on their web site.


I thought it was going to start this Thursday.
I was planning on calling in a phone order to the Port Huron Shoebank.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Beautiful and picturesque Port Washington, WI.  About 30 miles north of 
Milwaukee.

My former abode prior to moving to Florida.  Wonderful place.

Dan


 On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:29:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Tommy,
 
 You need to go to the tent sale.  It’s well worth the trip and you can
 snag some unbelievable deals on A-E shoes.
 
 And where might that be located?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:29:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Tommy,
 
 You need to go to the tent sale.  It’s well worth the trip and you can
 snag some unbelievable deals on A-E shoes.

And where might that be located?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Tommy,

You need to go to the tent sale.  It’s well worth the trip and you can snag 
some unbelievable deals on A-E shoes.  Definitely an item on any A-E wearer’s 
bucket list.

And you can meet up with the Doobie Brothers while you’re there.  Well, at 
least one of them.

Dan

  
 On Jun 13, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote:
 
 It looks like only black, brown and burgundy for a while from AE. I badly
 want some burgundy shell Leeds but can't bring myself to drop that sort of
 coin yet.
 
 Last month when the shell seconds were on sale for $399 I should have just 
 bought a couple of $200 gift cards for $300 with the Amex deal and pulled the 
 trigger. $300 for imperfect shell is a lot, but at least it isn't $650.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I almost forgot to mention that I'm the guy with a collection of $20 a pair 
socks so I'm probably not the best to talk to about prices.
Although you've got shoes that cost more than my Italian hiking boots...
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
It’s probably been a couple of years since I bought t-shirts, so it’s very 
possible their prices have gone up - I need to look at that and see, as I could 
have unrealistic expectations of the current prices.  I was just really caught 
off guard when I went into Penney’s the other day.

My Dad had a tailor for years, and both my brother and I went to him until he 
passed.  He would measure you up, have you pick the fabric, and a week later 
you had your shirts.  Want more?  Just call and tell him what you want as far 
as fabric and he makes up more from your patterns.

My brother is a “big and tall” guy, and he often remarked that the term was 
simply a marketing ploy for retailers to increase the price of clothing another 
20%-30%.  For what it cost to have Nick make a shirt for him he would have been 
hard pressed to find something of the same quality off the rack, and that’s if 
it fit.

It’s tough to find someone with these skills any more.  I tried to find someone 
in Tampa like him, but no luck.  I didn’t want a high end men’s store tailor, I 
wanted some guy running his own operation who you could trust to take good care 
of you and give you good service.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Oh man, I wish I could find somebody to make shirts for me. I hate how light 
 most dress shirts are. They're good for the summer but I like a heavy shirt...
 American Apparel has t-shirts for $28 EACH, but they're made in the USA. Just 
 about every other shirt you might buy will be sending money overseas.
 The shirts I'm having made are American Apparel, their wholesale prices must 
 be fantastic if the screen printer can make them for me at $12.50 each with a 
 2 color print. I'll be selling some for $20/ea and giving some away to 
 promote my YouTube show, Lantern Lab.
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 I was going to buy a week’s worth, which, at their prices, would have been 
 $56.
 
 I’m not worried about it, I just know that the same shirts can be had for 
 less elsewhere.  If there was a local manufacturer I could buy them from, I 
 would gladly pay $7 a shirt (or more) to support them AND keep the money in 
 the community.  I routinely pay more for some products and services I buy 
 locally for just this reason.
 
 I used to have my dress shirts made by a local tailor, for probably in the 
 neighborhood of $50-$75 a shirt.  Didn’t care about the price because Nick, 
 the little Greek guy who made them, lived in the same area.  I knew the money 
 I spent with him stayed right in my community and helped put his kids through 
 college.  Sadly, Nick passed away a few years ago and he had no successors 
 for the business.  I haven’t been able to find someone to replace him.
 
 I’m not going to pay Dead Sam, who exploits its workers and sends our money 
 overseas.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
 the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made 
 in USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
 I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts 
 should cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
 Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
 going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do 
 with the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I 
 like Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like 
 buying from local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 Here's a weird one:
 
 I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to 
 give Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from 
 J.C.Penneys.
 
 I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row 
 of t-shirts.
 
 OMG!!!
 
 A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00
 
 Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
 etc., they would still be a small fortune.
 
 I'm

Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I wonder if theres a real market for that these days. There are lots of folks 
my age and younger actually making things and the maker movement has no 
shortage of sew-ers.
Looks like Amazon will come in around half of what you saw at Penny's. I bet 
Wal-Mart does too but I bet the shirts at the Mart are cheapened to match...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
It’s probably been a couple of years since I bought t-shirts, so it’s very 
possible their prices have gone up - I need to look at that and see, as I could 
have unrealistic expectations of the current prices.  I was just really caught 
off guard when I went into Penney’s the other day.

My Dad had a tailor for years, and both my brother and I went to him until he 
passed.  He would measure you up, have you pick the fabric, and a week later 
you had your shirts.  Want more?  Just call and tell him what you want as far 
as fabric and he makes up more from your patterns.

My brother is a “big and tall” guy, and he often remarked that the term was 
simply a marketing ploy for retailers to increase the price of clothing another 
20%-30%.  For what it cost to have Nick make a shirt for him he would have been 
hard pressed to find something of the same quality off the rack, and that’s if 
it fit.

It’s tough to find someone with these skills any more.  I tried to find someone 
in Tampa like him, but no luck.  I didn’t want a high end men’s store tailor, I 
wanted some guy running his own operation who you could trust to take good care 
of you and give you good service.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Oh man, I wish I could find somebody to make shirts for me. I hate how light 
 most dress shirts are. They're good for the summer but I like a heavy shirt...
 American Apparel has t-shirts for $28 EACH, but they're made in the USA. Just 
 about every other shirt you might buy will be sending money overseas.
 The shirts I'm having made are American Apparel, their wholesale prices must 
 be fantastic if the screen printer can make them for me at $12.50 each with a 
 2 color print. I'll be selling some for $20/ea and giving some away to 
 promote my YouTube show, Lantern Lab.
 -Curt

  
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Most of the men usually wore Fedoras, even straw or old Fedoras when working 
in the fields.  Many wore farmers' straw hats; some wore pith helmets.  At 
about 12, I acquired a pith helmet, but I soon cut off almost all of the 
brim, except a small area in front (for a bill), and painted the hat white 
to make it look like an Indy racing helmet, which I wore for several years 
and/or renewed as  necessary.  For the few around who did not know my name, 
I was known as that boy who wears the racing helmet.  From a distance, one 
could swear it was a racing helmet.


I've seldom worn a hat except when required as part of an Air Force uniform 
or for a bit of cover from the intense sun in the fields in summer.  The 
only time(s) I've worn a ball cap was with the fatigue/utility uniform 
during the 3½ years I was enlisted and a B-47 maintenance crew chief.  In a 
drawer upstairs, I still have the one that I last wore in early March 1960, 
when I left Lincoln AFB, NE, to attend Officer Candidate School (OCS).  I 
take it out occasionally and study it as a reminder - that's not with 
nostalgia - just a reminder to be thankful.


I don't remember seeing so many ball caps before, maybe, 25 years ago.  I 
have not succumbed to the fashion; I've been lucky enough, though, to have 
always (even now) had plenty of hair, now white.   ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 1:06 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers and 
decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball hats, 
seem to have all but faded from the scene.
I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys 
did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was going to buy a week’s worth, which, at their prices, would have been $56.

I’m not worried about it, I just know that the same shirts can be had for less 
elsewhere.  If there was a local manufacturer I could buy them from, I would 
gladly pay $7 a shirt (or more) to support them AND keep the money in the 
community.  I routinely pay more for some products and services I buy locally 
for just this reason.

I used to have my dress shirts made by a local tailor, for probably in the 
neighborhood of $50-$75 a shirt.  Didn’t care about the price because Nick, the 
little Greek guy who made them, lived in the same area.  I knew the money I 
spent with him stayed right in my community and helped put his kids through 
college.  Sadly, Nick passed away a few years ago and he had no successors for 
the business.  I haven’t been able to find someone to replace him.

I’m not going to pay Dead Sam, who exploits its workers and sends our money 
overseas.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
 the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made 
 in USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
 I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts 
 should cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
 Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
 going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do 
 with the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I 
 like Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like 
 buying from local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
 -Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 Here's a weird one:
 
 I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to 
 give Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from 
 J.C.Penneys.
 
 I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row 
 of t-shirts.
 
 OMG!!!
 
 A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00
 
 Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
 etc., they would still be a small fortune.
 
 I'm going to try Target this weekend. I will absolutely not give Dead Sam my 
 money unless absolutely necessary.
 
 Maybe I'll look at Amazon tonight, too.
 
 Grrr.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
 Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
 They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once they 
 opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart already has 
 here.
 Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in either 
 store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered up-market from 
 WalMart.
 Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in favour 
 of Target.
 It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not 
 have a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have enough 
 stock and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
 Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I did 
 not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did not go 
 back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to WalMart 
 around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks ND several 
 times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
 So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
 homework and should have been fired for what they did.
 
 RB
 
 On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
 course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big 
 ole stack of 'em...
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh man, I wish I could find somebody to make shirts for me. I hate how light 
most dress shirts are. They're good for the summer but I like a heavy shirt...
American Apparel has t-shirts for $28 EACH, but they're made in the USA. Just 
about every other shirt you might buy will be sending money overseas.
The shirts I'm having made are American Apparel, their wholesale prices must be 
fantastic if the screen printer can make them for me at $12.50 each with a 2 
color print. I'll be selling some for $20/ea and giving some away to promote my 
YouTube show, Lantern Lab.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
I was going to buy a week’s worth, which, at their prices, would have been $56.

I’m not worried about it, I just know that the same shirts can be had for less 
elsewhere.  If there was a local manufacturer I could buy them from, I would 
gladly pay $7 a shirt (or more) to support them AND keep the money in the 
community.  I routinely pay more for some products and services I buy locally 
for just this reason.

I used to have my dress shirts made by a local tailor, for probably in the 
neighborhood of $50-$75 a shirt.  Didn’t care about the price because Nick, the 
little Greek guy who made them, lived in the same area.  I knew the money I 
spent with him stayed right in my community and helped put his kids through 
college.  Sadly, Nick passed away a few years ago and he had no successors for 
the business.  I haven’t been able to find someone to replace him.

I’m not going to pay Dead Sam, who exploits its workers and sends our money 
overseas.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
 the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made 
 in USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
 I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts 
 should cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
 Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
 going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do 
 with the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I 
 like Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like 
 buying from local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 Here's a weird one:
 
 I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to 
 give Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from 
 J.C.Penneys.
 
 I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row 
 of t-shirts.
 
 OMG!!!
 
 A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00
 
 Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
 etc., they would still be a small fortune.
 
 I'm going to try Target this weekend. I will absolutely not give Dead Sam my 
 money unless absolutely necessary.
 
 Maybe I'll look at Amazon tonight, too.
 
 Grrr.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
 Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
 They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once they 
 opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart already has 
 here.
 Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in either 
 store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered up-market from 
 WalMart.
 Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in favour 
 of Target.
 It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not 
 have a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have enough 
 stock and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
 Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I did 
 not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did not go 
 back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to WalMart 
 around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks ND several 
 times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
 So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
 homework and should have been fired for what they did.
 
 RB
 
 On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
 course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big 
 ole stack of 'em...
 -Curt

Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s probably been a couple of years since I bought t-shirts, so it’s very 
possible their prices have gone up - I need to look at that and see, as I could 
have unrealistic expectations of the current prices.  I was just really caught 
off guard when I went into Penney’s the other day.

My Dad had a tailor for years, and both my brother and I went to him until he 
passed.  He would measure you up, have you pick the fabric, and a week later 
you had your shirts.  Want more?  Just call and tell him what you want as far 
as fabric and he makes up more from your patterns.

My brother is a “big and tall” guy, and he often remarked that the term was 
simply a marketing ploy for retailers to increase the price of clothing another 
20%-30%.  For what it cost to have Nick make a shirt for him he would have been 
hard pressed to find something of the same quality off the rack, and that’s if 
it fit.

It’s tough to find someone with these skills any more.  I tried to find someone 
in Tampa like him, but no luck.  I didn’t want a high end men’s store tailor, I 
wanted some guy running his own operation who you could trust to take good care 
of you and give you good service.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Oh man, I wish I could find somebody to make shirts for me. I hate how light 
 most dress shirts are. They're good for the summer but I like a heavy shirt...
 American Apparel has t-shirts for $28 EACH, but they're made in the USA. Just 
 about every other shirt you might buy will be sending money overseas.
 The shirts I'm having made are American Apparel, their wholesale prices must 
 be fantastic if the screen printer can make them for me at $12.50 each with a 
 2 color print. I'll be selling some for $20/ea and giving some away to 
 promote my YouTube show, Lantern Lab.
 -Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 I was going to buy a week’s worth, which, at their prices, would have been 
 $56.
 
 I’m not worried about it, I just know that the same shirts can be had for 
 less elsewhere.  If there was a local manufacturer I could buy them from, I 
 would gladly pay $7 a shirt (or more) to support them AND keep the money in 
 the community.  I routinely pay more for some products and services I buy 
 locally for just this reason.
 
 I used to have my dress shirts made by a local tailor, for probably in the 
 neighborhood of $50-$75 a shirt.  Didn’t care about the price because Nick, 
 the little Greek guy who made them, lived in the same area.  I knew the money 
 I spent with him stayed right in my community and helped put his kids through 
 college.  Sadly, Nick passed away a few years ago and he had no successors 
 for the business.  I haven’t been able to find someone to replace him.
 
 I’m not going to pay Dead Sam, who exploits its workers and sends our money 
 overseas.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
 the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made 
 in USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
 I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts 
 should cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
 Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
 going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do 
 with the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I 
 like Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like 
 buying from local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
 -Curt
   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 Here's a weird one:
 
 I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to 
 give Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from 
 J.C.Penneys.
 
 I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row 
 of t-shirts.
 
 OMG!!!
 
 A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00
 
 Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
 etc., they would still be a small fortune.
 
 I'm going to try Target this weekend. I will absolutely not give Dead Sam my 
 money unless absolutely necessary.
 
 Maybe I'll look at Amazon tonight, too.
 
 Grrr.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
 Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
 They assumed that we were like the USA

Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once 
they opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart 
already has here.
Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in 
either store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered 
up-market from WalMart.
Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in 
favour of Target.
It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not 
have a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have 
enough stock and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I 
did not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did 
not go back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to 
WalMart around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks 
ND several times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
homework and should have been fired for what they did.


RB

On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big ole 
stack of 'em...
-Curt





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2015-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here's a weird one:

I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to give 
Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from J.C.Penneys.

I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row of 
t-shirts.

OMG!!!

A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00

Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
etc., they would still be a small fortune.

I'm going to try Target this weekend. I will absolutely not give Dead Sam my 
money unless absolutely necessary.

Maybe I'll look at Amazon tonight, too.

Grrr.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
 Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
 They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once they 
 opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart already has 
 here.
 Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in either 
 store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered up-market from 
 WalMart.
 Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in favour 
 of Target.
 It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not have 
 a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have enough stock 
 and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
 Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I did 
 not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did not go 
 back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to WalMart 
 around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks ND several 
 times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
 So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
 homework and should have been fired for what they did.
 
 RB
 
 On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
 course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big 
 ole stack of 'em...
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Interesting. I go to Target occasionally because I hate Wal-Martians and the 
shoppers at Target are at least 20% less aggravating. The only reason I can 
tell you the last time I went to Wal-Mart is because Dad made me go with him 
last month to buy a 4G hot spot...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once 
they opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart 
already has here.
Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in 
either store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered 
up-market from WalMart.
Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in 
favour of Target.
It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not 
have a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have 
enough stock and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I 
did not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did 
not go back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to 
WalMart around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks 
ND several times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
homework and should have been fired for what they did.

RB



On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
 course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big ole 
 stack of 'em...
 -Curt





   
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh and looking back I realize that American Apparel has a basic t-shirt for $11 
on sale for $9. I've got one and I didn't think I had paid $28 for it. Its a 
good shirt, they have decent socks too although for tube socks I prefer Wigwam 
which is also made in USA.
-CurtI have plenty of stuff, I'll take the Made in The USA item please.
  From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
I almost forgot to mention that I'm the guy with a collection of $20 a pair 
socks so I'm probably not the best to talk to about prices.
Although you've got shoes that cost more than my Italian hiking boots...
-Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
  
It’s probably been a couple of years since I bought t-shirts, so it’s very 
possible their prices have gone up - I need to look at that and see, as I could 
have unrealistic expectations of the current prices.  I was just really caught 
off guard when I went into Penney’s the other day.

My Dad had a tailor for years, and both my brother and I went to him until he 
passed.  He would measure you up, have you pick the fabric, and a week later 
you had your shirts.  Want more?  Just call and tell him what you want as far 
as fabric and he makes up more from your patterns.

My brother is a “big and tall” guy, and he often remarked that the term was 
simply a marketing ploy for retailers to increase the price of clothing another 
20%-30%.  For what it cost to have Nick make a shirt for him he would have been 
hard pressed to find something of the same quality off the rack, and that’s if 
it fit.

It’s tough to find someone with these skills any more.  I tried to find someone 
in Tampa like him, but no luck.  I didn’t want a high end men’s store tailor, I 
wanted some guy running his own operation who you could trust to take good care 
of you and give you good service.

Dan




 On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Oh man, I wish I could find somebody to make shirts for me. I hate how light 
 most dress shirts are. They're good for the summer but I like a heavy shirt...
 American Apparel has t-shirts for $28 EACH, but they're made in the USA. Just 
 about every other shirt you might buy will be sending money overseas.
 The shirts I'm having made are American Apparel, their wholesale prices must 
 be fantastic if the screen printer can make them for me at $12.50 each with a 
 2 color print. I'll be selling some for $20/ea and giving some away to 
 promote my YouTube show, Lantern Lab.
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 I was going to buy a week’s worth, which, at their prices, would have been 
 $56.
 
 I’m not worried about it, I just know that the same shirts can be had for 
 less elsewhere.  If there was a local manufacturer I could buy them from, I 
 would gladly pay $7 a shirt (or more) to support them AND keep the money in 
 the community.  I routinely pay more for some products and services I buy 
 locally for just this reason.
 
 I used to have my dress shirts made by a local tailor, for probably in the 
 neighborhood of $50-$75 a shirt.  Didn’t care about the price because Nick, 
 the little Greek guy who made them, lived in the same area.  I knew the money 
 I spent with him stayed right in my community and helped put his kids through 
 college.  Sadly, Nick passed away a few years ago and he had no successors 
 for the business.  I haven’t been able to find someone to replace him.
 
 I’m not going to pay Dead Sam, who exploits its workers and sends our money 
 overseas.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
 the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made 
 in USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
 I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts 
 should cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
 Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
 going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do 
 with the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I 
 like Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like 
 buying from local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent

Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Having not been there I really can't say but I've had excellent luck in 
Burbank. A lot of costume stuff that was bought for big movies and such ends up 
at Thrift stores where it ironically gets bought for other movies and 
productions...
New England I think has some of the worst thrift stores. I don't think its 
because people don't get rid of stuff, they do. I think its more because they 
are heavily shopped so the good stuff goes early. Yankee thrift and all that.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
WInnipeg has the best thrift stores in North America, hands down.



On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Well, I know or knew, as I have not seen them in a while, a couple of young 
fellows who played in a band and they wore hats that they must have obtained 
from the Goodwill store or such as I have no idea where one would buy a hat 
like that. It was a jazz band and the one fellow played a trombone and the 
other a saxaphone. The sax player is my neighbour's younger son and the 
trombone is his cousin who used to live accross the lane from us too.

RB



On 12/06/2015 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its the 
in thing...

-Curt
          




Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON
    I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers
and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball
hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big ole 
stack of 'em...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
Well, I know or knew, as I have not seen them in a while, a couple of 
young fellows who played in a band and they wore hats that they must 
have obtained from the Goodwill store or such as I have no idea where 
one would buy a hat like that. It was a jazz band and the one fellow 
played a trombone and the other a saxaphone. The sax player is my 
neighbour's younger son and the trombone is his cousin who used to live 
accross the lane from us too.

RB





On 12/06/2015 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its the 
 in thing...

 -Curt
        
  


 Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON
    
 I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

 What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

 Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers
 and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball
 hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
 I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
 did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

 RB

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2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Really, you're all worried about $7 a shirt? I'm having some shirts made and 
the cheap ones were $7.50 each (thats with 2 color screen printing) the made in 
USA American Apparel ones I'm getting are $12.50 each.
I would suggest that you maybe have a warped opinion on what the shirts should 
cost. Penny's has to make a little profit too...
Actually this is kind of whats wrong with America, how many shirts are you 
going to buy that it would cost a small fortune? What else would you do with 
the money? The cheapest means somebody doesn't get to eat. As much as I like 
Amazon for selling me weird stuff I can't find anywhere else I like buying from 
local companies so my neighbors have jobs.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
Here's a weird one:

I wanted to buy some plain cotton t-shirts (undershirts). I don't want to give 
Dead Sam my money, so I notice that we had all these coupons from J.C.Penneys.

I pop into Penneys yesterday, go to the Men's department and locate the row of 
t-shirts.

OMG!!!

A package of four (4) Hanes or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts are $28.00

Even with the stupid 20% off, additional discount for Penneys card holders, 
etc., they would still be a small fortune.

I'm going to try Target this weekend. I will absolutely not give Dead Sam my 
money unless absolutely necessary.

Maybe I'll look at Amazon tonight, too.

Grrr.

Dan

Sent from my iPad



 On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the failure was not mysterious.
 Target totally misjudged the Canadian market.
 They assumed that we were like the USA and would flock to Target once they 
 opened. They did not fully appreciate the foothold that WalMart already has 
 here.
 Apparently (it is not obvious to me but I don't spend much time in either 
 store so what do I know?) in the USA, Target is considered up-market from 
 WalMart.
 Target assumed that the middle class and up would abandon WalMart in favour 
 of Target.
 It did not happen. Target opened too many stores all at once and did not have 
 a supply network able to stock them. Their stores did not have enough stock 
 and much of what they did have was not of obvious quality.
 Many people went to Target once, looked around, and did not go back. I did 
 not even go once. My wife went, told me it was a lost cause, and did not go 
 back. I listened to her and did not bother to go there. I go to WalMart 
 around here about once a year. I go to a WalMart in Grand Forks ND several 
 times a year and mostly buy M1 oil.
 So, the MBA's who drove the Target bus into Canada were not doing their 
 homework and should have been fired for what they did.
 
 RB
 
 On 12/06/2015 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Fedoras are for sale all over the place, big stores like Target (which of 
 course you don't have since it mysteriously failed in CA) will have a big 
 ole stack of 'em...
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The 2nd 
Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store within 50 
miles of me.


Mitch.

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2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Gildan is the standard for make your own printed shirts. Anybody that got the 
ChowdaQ shirt (what year did I make those? 2012?) got a Gildan shirt. They're 
okay but thin.
-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   

Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The 2nd 
Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store within 50 
miles of me.

Mitch.




   
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I don’t need wingtips for work, so I’m slowly but surely phasing them out of my 
rotation.


I don't actually need wingtips at the necktie-free office I've been at the last 
few tax seasons, but the distressed grey ones are all-purpose shoes, and the 
black ones work OK with slacks and an open dress shirt. I bought the greys 
mainly to have something for 'blue jean Saturday' at the office after the sole 
on one of my made in India Nunn Bush loafers disintegrated. I guess I just 
really like wingtips.


And these are incredibly comfortable:
http://dappered.com/2013/03/in-person-the-allen-edmonds-mctavish-in-grey/


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2015-06-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Yeah, I know you can't pronounce an r pahdnah.
McCloud managed to be a cowboy in NYC.  No reason you can't be a man 
and wear a western shirt without buttons where you live.


 pencilneck bowtie girlieboys in san fransicko   are descended from a 
company that used to make jeans for men.  I won't buy their stuff, 
unless it is in a thrift store.  Buying their stuff in a thrift store 
does not support their wacko agenda.  Someone else already did when 
the stuff is in the thrift store.


You know I live in the east right? :)They'd work out if I cut the 
sleeves off I reckon...
When you talk of the girlie boys did you mean American Apparel? 
That'd be in LA, they're pencil necked, mustachioed, skinny jean 
wearing girlie men. Theres a difference. ;)

-Curt

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
  




Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The
2nd Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store
within 50 miles of me.

Mitch.


GIldan makes lots of tshirts the screen printers use.

Curt, for heavy shirts check these out:
http://www.wrangler.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10751langId=-1productId=180665cm_mmc=CSE-_-Google-_-CPC-_-Productgclid=Cj0KEQjwhuqrBRCFuPz4ipOx5JIBEiQAZJ7F-iAEftT2XJalV2Fdtyt9Mgf_ivFLLci8KU9plQJfNq4aAnFE8P8HAQ

They last for years.

I also like the Blue Generation button shirts from screen
printer/embroidery shops.  They are about 25 bucks embroidered.  I am
fixin ta buy a few more of them some day.  Mine are 10 years old and
I've worn them almost every day.  THe collars are wearing out now.

Best of all, they are not from the pencilneck bowtie girlieboys in
san fransicko

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually I speak northern Maine which means I tend to sound Canadian more than 
anything else...
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
Yeah, I know you can't pronounce an r pahdnah.
McCloud managed to be a cowboy in NYC.  No reason you can't be a man 
and wear a western shirt without buttons where you live.

  pencilneck bowtie girlieboys in san fransicko  are descended from a 
company that used to make jeans for men.  I won't buy their stuff, 
unless it is in a thrift store.  Buying their stuff in a thrift store 
does not support their wacko agenda.  Someone else already did when 
the stuff is in the thrift store.



You know I live in the east right? :)They'd work out if I cut the 
sleeves off I reckon...
When you talk of the girlie boys did you mean American Apparel? 
That'd be in LA, they're pencil necked, mustachioed, skinny jean 
wearing girlie men. Theres a difference. ;)
-Curt

      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
  


Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The
2nd Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store
within 50 miles of me.

Mitch.

GIldan makes lots of tshirts the screen printers use.

Curt, for heavy shirts check these out:
http://www.wrangler.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10751langId=-1productId=180665cm_mmc=CSE-_-Google-_-CPC-_-Productgclid=Cj0KEQjwhuqrBRCFuPz4ipOx5JIBEiQAZJ7F-iAEftT2XJalV2Fdtyt9Mgf_ivFLLci8KU9plQJfNq4aAnFE8P8HAQ

They last for years.

I also like the Blue Generation button shirts from screen
printer/embroidery shops.  They are about 25 bucks embroidered.  I am
fixin ta buy a few more of them some day.  Mine are 10 years old and
I've worn them almost every day.  THe collars are wearing out now.

Best of all, they are not from the pencilneck bowtie girlieboys in
san fransicko

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote:


It looks like only black, brown and burgundy for a while from AE. I badly
want some burgundy shell Leeds but can't bring myself to drop that sort of
coin yet.


Last month when the shell seconds were on sale for $399 I should have just 
bought a couple of $200 gift cards for $300 with the Amex deal and pulled the 
trigger. $300 for imperfect shell is a lot, but at least it isn't $650.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The 
2nd Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store 
within 50 miles of me.


Mitch.


GIldan makes lots of tshirts the screen printers use.

Curt, for heavy shirts check these out:
http://www.wrangler.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10751langId=-1productId=180665cm_mmc=CSE-_-Google-_-CPC-_-Productgclid=Cj0KEQjwhuqrBRCFuPz4ipOx5JIBEiQAZJ7F-iAEftT2XJalV2Fdtyt9Mgf_ivFLLci8KU9plQJfNq4aAnFE8P8HAQ

They last for years.

I also like the Blue Generation button shirts from screen 
printer/embroidery shops.  They are about 25 bucks embroidered.  I am 
fixin ta buy a few more of them some day.  Mine are 10 years old and 
I've worn them almost every day.  THe collars are wearing out now.


Best of all, they are not from the pencilneck bowtie girlieboys in 
san fransicko


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2015-06-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

They make nice heavy ones tshirts too, but most folks won't pay for them


Gildan is the standard for make your own printed shirts. Anybody 
that got the ChowdaQ shirt (what year did I make those? 2012?) got a 
Gildan shirt. They're okay but thin.

-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
  


Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The 2nd
Amendment for $11.37.
A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store within 50
miles of me.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread clay via Mercedes
Seattle has a very exceptional thrift store presence.   There was even a 
hippity hop song about it last year.  There are a few buyers of thrift items, 
but not enough to keep stores from loading up dumpsters with items that lived 
on shelves too long.  I think it is all of 20 day turn around.  Big box stores 
with thousands of feet of floor space.

Anchorage has some of the worst stores I have seen.  Small (1k sqft), slim 
pickings and out of date products.   Maybe the market has 24 hour turn around, 
but it did not look like there was any traffic.

clay



On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 Having not been there I really can't say but I've had excellent luck in 
 Burbank. A lot of costume stuff that was bought for big movies and such ends 
 up at Thrift stores where it ironically gets bought for other movies and 
 productions...
 New England I think has some of the worst thrift stores. I don't think its 
 because people don't get rid of stuff, they do. I think its more because they 
 are heavily shopped so the good stuff goes early. Yankee thrift and all that.
 -Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 
 WInnipeg has the best thrift stores in North America, hands down.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Well, I know or knew, as I have not seen them in a while, a couple of young 
 fellows who played in a band and they wore hats that they must have obtained 
 from the Goodwill store or such as I have no idea where one would buy a hat 
 like that. It was a jazz band and the one fellow played a trombone and the 
 other a saxaphone. The sax player is my neighbour's younger son and the 
 trombone is his cousin who used to live accross the lane from us too.
 
 RB
 
 
 
 On 12/06/2015 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its the 
 in thing...
 
 -Curt
   
 
 
 
 
 Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.
 
 What sort of hats did you all wear back then?
 
 Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers
 and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball
 hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
 I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
 did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Aww, you ratbag.  I was thinking about the tent sale today.  That is, by far, 
the absolute best place to get a heck of a deal on anything A-E.

I’m going to go over to their retail store in Whorelando in the next week or 
two and buy a pair of brown or chili loafers.  I don’t need wingtips for work, 
so I’m slowly but surely phasing them out of my rotation.

Dan

 On Jun 12, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I've got some heavy high quality white Ts that came from a screen print shop 
 up north. Anvil is the brand I think.
 I've also got some thinner ones.
 Guess what I like to wear under a dress shirt when it's more than 65 degrees 
 indoors?
 
 Oh, I caught your comment about Dan's shoes.
 I have two pair of 'casual wing tips' that I bought before tax season this 
 year,
 the McTavish model in black wax infused cowhide and smoky gray distressed 
 leather. The gray ones are a lot softer, the black ones get uncomfortable 
 after the first ten hours or so. Black was on sale for $199 and I had a $50 
 credit on $200 purchase offer from American Express. Gray were on clearance 
 for $147.
 
 Now I'm on the hunt for something in brown, burgundy, or tan. Would really 
 like to get something in walnut or chili colored shell cordovan. 
 Unfortunately the only 10E Cambridge wing tips I can find at shoebank are 
 black. Will hit the tent sale next week, already bought a $200 gift card with 
 the current Amex offer in case I find shoes that don't cost $200 I'll still 
 get the $50 statement credit.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Gildan is the standard for make your own printed shirts. Anybody that got the 
ChowdaQ shirt (what year did I make those? 2012?) got a Gildan shirt. They're 
okay but thin.


I've got some heavy high quality white Ts that came from a screen print shop up 
north. Anvil is the brand I think.

I've also got some thinner ones.
Guess what I like to wear under a dress shirt when it's more than 65 degrees 
indoors?


Oh, I caught your comment about Dan's shoes.
I have two pair of 'casual wing tips' that I bought before tax season this year,
the McTavish model in black wax infused cowhide and smoky gray distressed 
leather. The gray ones are a lot softer, the black ones get uncomfortable after 
the first ten hours or so. Black was on sale for $199 and I had a $50 credit on 
$200 purchase offer from American Express. Gray were on clearance for $147.


Now I'm on the hunt for something in brown, burgundy, or tan. Would really like 
to get something in walnut or chili colored shell cordovan. Unfortunately the 
only 10E Cambridge wing tips I can find at shoebank are black. Will hit the tent 
sale next week, already bought a $200 gift card with the current Amex offer in 
case I find shoes that don't cost $200 I'll still get the $50 statement credit.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Hey Curt let's make chowdahQ shirts this year so Dan gets one to take back
to FL. We have some money in the kitty.
On Jun 12, 2015 6:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Gildan is the standard for make your own printed shirts. Anybody that got
 the ChowdaQ shirt (what year did I make those? 2012?) got a Gildan shirt.
 They're okay but thin.
 -Curt

   From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON


 Wal-mart has 3 packs of Fruity Loomies for 8.46 and Hanes Hates The 2nd
 Amendment for $11.37.
 A brand I never heard of, Gildan, is 5 for 9.97 but not in any store
 within 50
 miles of me.

 Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Being almost bald, I wear a hat most times when I'm outside. It feels like
my brain (what's left of it) is frying in the OK sun if I don't. Since it's
an issue of the sun, I wear one with a wide brim to protect my ears and
neck. I only wear the ball cap in the airplane - due to the headset and
needing the visor when flying West into the setting sun . . .
My son will only wear a ball cap on occasion, and when flying - wouldn't be
caught dead in one of my other hats.


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

 What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

 Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers and
 decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball hats,
 seem to have all but faded from the scene.
 I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
 did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

 RB



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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its the 
in thing...

-Curt
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 1:06 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON
   
I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers 
and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball 
hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys 
did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, I know or knew, as I have not seen them in a while, a couple of 
young fellows who played in a band and they wore hats that they must 
have obtained from the Goodwill store or such as I have no idea where 
one would buy a hat like that. It was a jazz band and the one fellow 
played a trombone and the other a saxaphone. The sax player is my 
neighbour's younger son and the trombone is his cousin who used to live 
accross the lane from us too.


RB



On 12/06/2015 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its the 
in thing...

-Curt

  




Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON

I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.


What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers
and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball
hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2015-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
WInnipeg has the best thrift stores in North America, hands down.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well, I know or knew, as I have not seen them in a while, a couple of
 young fellows who played in a band and they wore hats that they must have
 obtained from the Goodwill store or such as I have no idea where one would
 buy a hat like that. It was a jazz band and the one fellow played a
 trombone and the other a saxaphone. The sax player is my neighbour's
 younger son and the trombone is his cousin who used to live accross the
 lane from us too.

 RB



 On 12/06/2015 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 Apparently you don't know any hipsters. The Fedora has made a return, its
 the in thing...

 -Curt




  Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON
 I was thinking of you and your stories of your youth.

 What sort of hats did you all wear back then?

 Hats are an odd thing. Useful for folks who work outdoors like farmers
 and decorative to some extent for the ladies etc but apart from baseball
 hats, seem to have all but faded from the scene.
 I have a couple of Tilley hats that I wear from time to time but my boys
 did not want to be seen with me when I wore them.

 RB

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2014-03-16 Thread Larry T

Hi Wilton,
is all that work the result of our severe winter weather this year 
or was it just a matter of regular maintenance catching up with you?   
Personally, I tend to put things off longer than I should until i have 
numerous things that need attention.   I used to be better at doing 
stuff as needed, which prevented a land slide of work at once.I must 
be getting lazy in my old age.? ;-)


The  300D is like that.  Need to do the front wheel bearings and 
the front struts as well.   Also need to have rear brake hard piping 
replaced and check the rear suspension bushings.Oh yeah, I need to 
find the leak in the AC system.   If it's in the evap inside the dash I 
may have to buy another car as my wife cannot have a daily driver 
without AC in our Va summer heat.   So much stuff, so little time


Good luck with all that stuff Wilton!

Sincerely,
Larry

On 3/14/2014 5:16 PM, WILTON wrote:
Yep, computer kaput for a while and been busy with getting extensive 
repairs done on the house (repairs to siding, and hidden gutters, new 
roof and railings on widow's/captain's walk, new roof on large bay 
window area, new door from outside to basement).  Now I need beaucoup 
glycerin pills and/or gold, oil or diamond strike on the property to 
help with the bill for it. 'Still not done - gotta get it all properly 
painted.   ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Are you ok?
You have been pretty quiet lately.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2014-03-16 Thread WILTON
Much of is a matter of stuff catching up sense I've been unable to do it 
myself for nearly 15 years.  Widow's walk roof has been leaking since I've 
been here for 26 years; others who worked on it did inadequate jobs; 'kept 
telling 'em we need to dismantle the railings and replace the roof before 
repairing/rebuilding railings.  Finally got roof replaced coupla weeks ago 
with EPDM (membrane); same on bay area roof.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Hi Wilton,
is all that work the result of our severe winter weather this year or 
was it just a matter of regular maintenance catching up with you? 
Personally, I tend to put things off longer than I should until i have 
numerous things that need attention.   I used to be better at doing stuff 
as needed, which prevented a land slide of work at once.I must be 
getting lazy in my old age.? ;-)


The  300D is like that.  Need to do the front wheel bearings and the 
front struts as well.   Also need to have rear brake hard piping replaced 
and check the rear suspension bushings.Oh yeah, I need to find the 
leak in the AC system.   If it's in the evap inside the dash I may have to 
buy another car as my wife cannot have a daily driver without AC in our Va 
summer heat.   So much stuff, so little time


Good luck with all that stuff Wilton!

Sincerely,
Larry

On 3/14/2014 5:16 PM, WILTON wrote:
Yep, computer kaput for a while and been busy with getting extensive 
repairs done on the house (repairs to siding, and hidden gutters, new 
roof and railings on widow's/captain's walk, new roof on large bay window 
area, new door from outside to basement).  Now I need beaucoup glycerin 
pills and/or gold, oil or diamond strike on the property to help with the 
bill for it. 'Still not done - gotta get it all properly painted.   ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Are you ok?
You have been pretty quiet lately.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2014-03-16 Thread WILTON

Well, since, that is.  ;)

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON


Much of is a matter of stuff catching up sense I've been unable to do it 
myself for nearly 15 years.  Widow's walk roof has been leaking since I've 
been here for 26 years; others who worked on it did inadequate jobs; 'kept 
telling 'em we need to dismantle the railings and replace the roof before 
repairing/rebuilding railings.  Finally got roof replaced coupla weeks ago 
with EPDM (membrane); same on bay area roof.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Hi Wilton,
is all that work the result of our severe winter weather this year or 
was it just a matter of regular maintenance catching up with you? 
Personally, I tend to put things off longer than I should until i have 
numerous things that need attention.   I used to be better at doing stuff 
as needed, which prevented a land slide of work at once.I must be 
getting lazy in my old age.? ;-)


The  300D is like that.  Need to do the front wheel bearings and the 
front struts as well.   Also need to have rear brake hard piping replaced 
and check the rear suspension bushings.Oh yeah, I need to find the 
leak in the AC system.   If it's in the evap inside the dash I may have 
to buy another car as my wife cannot have a daily driver without AC in 
our Va summer heat.   So much stuff, so little time


Good luck with all that stuff Wilton!

Sincerely,
Larry

On 3/14/2014 5:16 PM, WILTON wrote:
Yep, computer kaput for a while and been busy with getting extensive 
repairs done on the house (repairs to siding, and hidden gutters, new 
roof and railings on widow's/captain's walk, new roof on large bay 
window area, new door from outside to basement).  Now I need beaucoup 
glycerin pills and/or gold, oil or diamond strike on the property to 
help with the bill for it. 'Still not done - gotta get it all properly 
painted.   ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Are you ok?
You have been pretty quiet lately.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2014-03-14 Thread WILTON
Yep, computer kaput for a while and been busy with getting extensive repairs 
done on the house (repairs to siding, and hidden gutters, new roof and 
railings on widow's/captain's walk, new roof on large bay window area, new 
door from outside to basement).  Now I need beaucoup glycerin pills and/or 
gold, oil or diamond strike on the property to help with the bill for it. 
'Still not done - gotta get it all properly painted.   ;)


Wilton

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From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Are you ok?
You have been pretty quiet lately.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON

2014-03-14 Thread Randy Bennell

Very good.
Happy to hear all is well and you are just busy.

Randy


On 14/03/2014 4:16 PM, WILTON wrote:
Yep, computer kaput for a while and been busy with getting extensive 
repairs done on the house (repairs to siding, and hidden gutters, new 
roof and railings on widow's/captain's walk, new roof on large bay 
window area, new door from outside to basement).  Now I need beaucoup 
glycerin pills and/or gold, oil or diamond strike on the property to 
help with the bill for it. 'Still not done - gotta get it all properly 
painted.   ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] hey WILTON



Are you ok?
You have been pretty quiet lately.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Wilton!

2009-10-31 Thread WILTON

Another somebody with more money than brains and taste.

Wilton

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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:29 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Hey Wilton!



This beauty rides as smooth as a . forklift.

http://i39.tinypic.com/4kcpl0.jpg

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