Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-02-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes 
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:17:32 -0500
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is interesting.  Even with the adapter kit, they are way cheaper than 
> the (approx.) $600 Rusty (per side) mentioned, maybe 10 years ago.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:53 PM
> > To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> > 
> > $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in the 
> > EPC,
> > there’s a good chance it is.
> > 
> > http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=107411
> > 4_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=
> > 24398
> > 
> > Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint, 
> > however.  Is
> > the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's
> > > normal to develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.
> > > New half axles were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed
> > > one.  Back then, remans were questionable because many failed quite
> > > quickly.  Back then the conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was
> > better than most remans.
> > > Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You
> > > probably have the version with flanges on the differential so the
> > > differential doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really
> > > hard job either way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you
> > > only have to do it once.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-
> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > >> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> > >>
> > >> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
> > > around
> > >> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
> > >> longer
> > > available,
> > >> can the old ones be rebuilt?
> > >> Thanks.
> > >> Ralph
~~~
JCWhitney usually carries cheap parts, but they list Dorman which used to be 
acceptable IIRC.
Gerry

http://www.jcwhitney.com/cv-joints-shafts-and-boots/mercedes-benz/c3650m161j1s19.jcwx


http://www.jcwhitney.com/dorman-oe-replacement-cv-joint-boot-kits/p2001137.jcwx

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-02-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
I actually have a set of factory-style half shaft boot kit somewhere in my
parts bin but installation isn't simple if you do it by the book.  There is
a tool that stretches the boot for easy installation without disassembling
the cans.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc   Start about minute into
the video.  I don't know if the tool works with MBZ factory boots (doubt it)
or if the associated boots are good quality.  Factory MBZ boots are quite
thick compared to Jap and US CV boots.

But you are right.  If dirt gets into the joint or the joint is run dry the
basic joint is ruined.

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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> 
> >Not at this time.  I need to do flex disks and the center bearing
> >carrier first.  Also, despite boot cracks, may half axles still aren't
> >leaking or torn.  Back then (10+ years ago), Rusty convinced me to
> >leave the half axles alone until the boots tore or leaked or I got
> >vibration.  So half axles are still a job for another year.  But thanks
> >for the offer.
> 
> Someone sold a kit and an expander to put new boots on.  You have to catch
> them when or before they tear.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-31 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
That is interesting.  Even with the adapter kit, they are way cheaper than the 
(approx.) $600 Rusty (per side) mentioned, maybe 10 years ago.

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> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:53 PM
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> 
> $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in the 
> EPC,
> there’s a good chance it is.
> 
> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=107411
> 4_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=
> 24398
> 
> Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint, however.  
> Is
> the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's
> > normal to develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.
> > New half axles were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed
> > one.  Back then, remans were questionable because many failed quite
> > quickly.  Back then the conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was
> better than most remans.
> > Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You
> > probably have the version with flanges on the differential so the
> > differential doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really
> > hard job either way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you
> > only have to do it once.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> >>
> >> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
> > around
> >> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
> >> longer
> > available,
> >> can the old ones be rebuilt?
> >> Thanks.
> >> Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Well, it’s possible they’re NLA from MB and they just haven’t taken it out of 
the EPC.  I can check with my dealer guy in the morning of you want me to.

Dan


> On Jan 31, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> That is interesting.  Even with the adapter kit, they are way cheaper than 
> the (approx.) $600 Rusty (per side) mentioned, maybe 10 years ago.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:53 PM
>> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
>> 
>> $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in the 
>> EPC,
>> there’s a good chance it is.
>> 
>> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=107411
>> 4_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=
>> 24398
>> 
>> Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint, however. 
>>  Is
>> the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's
>>> normal to develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.
>>> New half axles were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed
>>> one.  Back then, remans were questionable because many failed quite
>>> quickly.  Back then the conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was
>> better than most remans.
>>> Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You
>>> probably have the version with flanges on the differential so the
>>> differential doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really
>>> hard job either way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you
>>> only have to do it once.
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
>>>> 
>>>> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
>>> around
>>>> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
>>>> longer
>>> available,
>>>> can the old ones be rebuilt?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes 
Not at this time.  I need to do flex disks and the center bearing 
carrier first.  Also, despite boot cracks, may half axles still 
aren't leaking or torn.  Back then (10+ years ago), Rusty convinced 
me to leave the half axles alone until the boots tore or leaked or I 
got vibration.  So half axles are still a job for another year.  But 
thanks for the offer.


Someone sold a kit and an expander to put new boots on.  You have to 
catch them when or before they tear.


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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-31 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
Not at this time.  I need to do flex disks and the center bearing carrier 
first.  Also, despite boot cracks, may half axles still aren't leaking or torn. 
 Back then (10+ years ago), Rusty convinced me to leave the half axles alone 
until the boots tore or leaked or I got vibration.  So half axles are still a 
job for another year.  But thanks for the offer.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 6:00 PM
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> 
> Well, it’s possible they’re NLA from MB and they just haven’t taken it out of
> the EPC.  I can check with my dealer guy in the morning of you want me to.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > On Jan 31, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is interesting.  Even with the adapter kit, they are way cheaper than
> the (approx.) $600 Rusty (per side) mentioned, maybe 10 years ago.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:53 PM
> >> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> >>
> >> $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out
> >> in the EPC, there’s a good chance it is.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=107411
> >>
> 4_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=
> >> 24398
> >>
> >> Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint,
> >> however.  Is the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's
> >>> normal to develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.
> >>> New half axles were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed
> >>> one.  Back then, remans were questionable because many failed quite
> >>> quickly.  Back then the conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard
> >>> part was
> >> better than most remans.
> >>> Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You
> >>> probably have the version with flanges on the differential so the
> >>> differential doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a
> >>> really hard job either way but (if you replace it) but get a good
> >>> part so you only have to do it once.
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>>> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
> >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>>> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> >>>>
> >>>> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I
> >>>> checked
> >>> around
> >>>> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
> >>>> longer
> >>> available,
> >>>> can the old ones be rebuilt?
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's normal to
develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.  New half axles
were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed one.  Back then, remans
were questionable because many failed quite quickly.  Back then the
conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was better than most remans.
Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You probably
have the version with flanges on the differential so the differential
doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really hard job either
way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you only have to do it
once.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
> 
> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
around
> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no longer
available,
> can the old ones be rebuilt?
> Thanks.
> Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:53:28 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in
> the EPC, there’s a good chance it is.
> 
> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1074114_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=24398
> 
> Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint,
> however.  Is the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?


If the outer boot is bad, you can get #47 to replace it.

But you are right, we need to find out from Ralph what is the problem.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes 

Car-part.com for used ones.

If you can't find one closer, Kaleb may have one.  If you can't find 
elsewhere, I can sell you a used  one.




I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
around to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
longer available, can the old ones be rebuilt?
Thanks.
Ralph


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[MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
around to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
longer available, can the old ones be rebuilt?
Thanks.
Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
Could you find one at a knacker?  Is there anything different about an 
SDL from your basic 126?  Tim Crone was parting out an SDL, not sure the 
status of that.


--R

On 1/30/16 3:14 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
around to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no
longer available, can the old ones be rebuilt?
Thanks.
Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
$384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in the EPC, 
there’s a good chance it is.

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1074114_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=24398

Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint, however.  
Is the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?

Dan


> On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's normal to
> develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.  New half axles
> were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed one.  Back then, remans
> were questionable because many failed quite quickly.  Back then the
> conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was better than most remans.
> Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You probably
> have the version with flanges on the differential so the differential
> doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really hard job either
> way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you only have to do it
> once.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
>> 
>> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
> around
>> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no longer
> available,
>> can the old ones be rebuilt?
>> Thanks.
>> Ralph
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly

2016-01-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
#5 is the entire axle assembly

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> On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> $384.00 from MB if it’s still available.  Since it’s not grayed out in the 
> EPC, there’s a good chance it is.
> 
> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1074114_make=1103_model=16076=1987_category=24398
> 
> Looks like #5 in this drawing.  That does not include the CV joint, however.  
> Is the axle itself bad, or just the CV joint?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Unless it's leaking oil or making noise, don't mess with it.  It's normal to
>> develop deep cracks in the boots long before actual failure.  New half axles
>> were very expensive 10 years ago when I last needed one.  Back then, remans
>> were questionable because many failed quite quickly.  Back then the
>> conventional wisdom was that a junk-yard part was better than most remans.
>> Hopefully someone here (or on PeachParts?) has current info.  You probably
>> have the version with flanges on the differential so the differential
>> doesn't need to be drained and opened.  It's not a really hard job either
>> way but (if you replace it) but get a good part so you only have to do it
>> once.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:14 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: Ralph Robertson <rare...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [MBZ] '87 300 SDL Axle Assembly
>>> 
>>> I was advised by my mechanic that I need an axle assembly.  I checked
>> around
>>> to see prices and could not find any available.  If they are no longer
>> available,
>>> can the old ones be rebuilt?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ralph
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