Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Jim Cathey
> Maybe they were trying to squeeze out another couple of MPG by driving
> 55.

They had a few MPH to go before they even got to 55.
They drove equally slowly on the city streets.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Hendrik & Fay
But wait there is more 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnVNUvixWUQ&feature=related complete with 
a dour German going over the wreck.
This is the smart picking on something it's own size, not sure which 
model Fix It Again Tony it is 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeCIuOOSepA&feature=related but I do not 
want to be in the FIAT although I think the latest Punto has a 5 star 
safety rating and a you beaut turbo engine.
Although if you want to watch a real horror show those Chinese cars are 
scary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWy_fASSiQ&feature=related

Hendrik

Jeff Zedic wrote:
> I just cannot believe that the US is so far behind on these cars! They are
> thirteen years old now!! Sheesh. How many more times must we post the crash
> video of  a Smart and an S-class?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eghIfyHP0
>
>  
>   

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:38:39 -0500, Mitch wrote:

> Rory wrote:
> > 
> > they can even shut off the engine while the driver is
> > stopped.  all in the name of economizing/reduction of wear
> > and tear
> 
> 15 years ago, when I'd drive to school at 60 mph the only
> things I'd pass were Schneider & J. B. Hunt trucks. The Hunts
> were going about 58, the orange Schneiders were dead on 55mph.

That's 'cause the driver got paid extra for not exceeding 55 MPH.

> A Schneider driver told me they had telemetry and monitored
> everything. If you pocketed your per diem money and slept in
> the truck with an electric heater, they'd notice the voltage
> drop, or so he claimed.

Not on any of the trucks I drove.

> You didn't even want to think about
> leaving the engine idling all night. 
> Mitch.

You could, but they would keep track of idle time as a percent.
If at the end of the month the percent was low enough, money was
paid to the driver. If it was fair-to-middln' - no action. Too
high - trouble for the driver.

The values were sensible. I was able to idle the truck all night
on the cold, WI, winter nights and not get into trouble. I would
shut down the engine any other time I could (dinner, shower,
unloading, etc.) The allowed percentage was higher in the winter
than in the summer.

--Philip, former Schneider driver

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
Somehow it seems I'll end up paying for this in the long run.

Bob R.

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Maybe the amigo will cut you in on his windfall.  You and the lawyer.

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> I stopped and spoke to the officer, whom I knew from his escorting my son
> home a time or two, and told him what I saw and if they needed me later to
> call.
>
> Bob R.
>   
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Rory wrote:
> 
> they can even shut off the engine while the driver is stopped.  all in
> the name of economizing/reduction of wear and tear

15 years ago, when I'd drive to school at 60 mph the only things I'd
pass were Schneider & J. B. Hunt trucks. The Hunts were going about 58,
the orange Schneiders were dead on 55mph.
A Schneider driver told me they had telemetry and monitored everything.
If you pocketed your per diem money and slept in the truck with an
electric heater, they'd notice the voltage drop, or so he claimed. 
You didn't even want to think about leaving the engine idling all
night. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Maybe the amigo will cut you in on his windfall.  You and the lawyer.

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> I stopped and spoke to the officer, whom I knew from his escorting my son
> home a time or two, and told him what I saw and if they needed me later to
> call.
>
> Bob R.
>   
>

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Rory
they can even shut off the engine while the driver is stopped.  all in
the name of economizing/reduction of wear and tear

On Jan 21, 2008 10:14 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I think they use it to keep track of hours on the road too.  they'll
> > bust you for putting in more hours than allowed at one time too.
>
> Yeah I know a professional truck driver who says it really has become
> impossible to cheat on the hours anymore, you can't just fudge a paper
> log book because the company knows where you are 24/7 and whether
> you're moving or not.
>
> Allan
> --
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> 1966 230
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Allan Streib
"E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think they use it to keep track of hours on the road too.  they'll
> bust you for putting in more hours than allowed at one time too.

Yeah I know a professional truck driver who says it really has become
impossible to cheat on the hours anymore, you can't just fudge a paper
log book because the company knows where you are 24/7 and whether
you're moving or not.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread E M
I think they use it to keep track of hours on the road too.  they'll bust
you for putting in more hours than allowed at one time too.

Ed
300E

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>
> --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe not then, but I think most trucking companies
> > have their trucks
> > governed so they can't go over 75 or so, except
> > maybe downhill.
> >
> > An independent owner/operator might not be...
>
> Most if not all fleets use GPS to track their vehicles
> now, so if it was a fleet driver they would be
> seriously busted...
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread LWB250

--- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe not then, but I think most trucking companies
> have their trucks
> governed so they can't go over 75 or so, except
> maybe downhill.
> 
> An independent owner/operator might not be...

Most if not all fleets use GPS to track their vehicles
now, so if it was a fleet driver they would be
seriously busted...

Dan


  

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't know what's more surprising, that a semi can go up a hill at
> over 100mph empty, or that anybody would want to do it.

Maybe not then, but I think most trucking companies have their trucks
governed so they can't go over 75 or so, except maybe downhill.

An independent owner/operator might not be...

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
Mitch told us:

"I don't know what's more surprising, that a
semi can go up a hill at over 100mph empty, or that anybody would
want to do it."

Both the driver and the truck were speeding.

Bob R.


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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote:
> Actually saw a gal a couple of days ago applying eye liner with one hand
> while holding a sandwich with the other driving 50 in a 40 while yakking
> with her blueberry thingy hanging off her ear.

When moving to Michigan from Illinois many years ago, I once made the 
300 mile trip 3 times in one day. On the 3rd leg, I just wanted to
get where I was going ASAP, so I drove as fast as possible, consistent
with not getting a ticket. In 300 miles, I probably got passed 10-20
times, but there were two vehicles that blew past me. #1 was on the
outskirts of Kalamazoo during rush hour, young black woman with the
wheel in her left hand and a mascara brush (!) in her right hand. 
This was 1993, so not many people had cell phones. 

#2 was a semi about 50-60 miles south of Chicago. I decided to follow
him, thinking that with a big truck driving like that no cop would
mess with my car. I sped up, going as fast as I was willing to go,
ran the needle off my speedo, probably about 95mph, and the truck
walked away from me going up a hill. I could have kept up with him,
but I had zero desire to go over 100mph in the dark, even with 100W
bulbs in my 6x8 Hellas. I don't know what's more surprising, that a
semi can go up a hill at over 100mph empty, or that anybody would
want to do it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
Jeff Typed:

"What should really be getting poked fun of are the utterly pointless
"Hybrid SUV's" .so what, they get 1 mpg better economy and suddenly
that's environmentally sound?"

Bingo! Hit that nail on the head. It's the elephant in the room...the
spinach in the teeth, the dangly snot glob in the nose. It's silly.

Bob R.



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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Jeff Zedic
I just cannot believe that the US is so far behind on these cars! They are
thirteen years old now!! Sheesh. How many more times must we post the crash
video of  a Smart and an S-class?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eghIfyHP0

 They are not slow they are not unsafe..the safety cell concept that they
use is called the Tridion Cell. Read up on it.

What should really be getting poked fun of are the utterly pointless "Hybrid
SUV's" .so what, they get 1 mpg better economy and suddenly that's
environmentally sound?

So 18 mpg is brutal but 19 in a hybrid is great? Balls!

Coming back to North America, in car terms, is like stepping back 15 or so
years in a time machine. Yes, that's how it feels to me. All these horrible
gas-guzzlers and their oblivious owners waiting at completely unnecessary
traffic lights. UGH! The only diesel I've heard in the last month has been
the noisy giant pickup trucks

My Audi A4 1.9 TDI gets wonderful mileage in a safe comfortable, stylish
car. (not sure about reliability yet). Back home, everything's diesel! Jeep
Liberty's (yuck), Dodge Caravans (why bother?) you name it. (ok, not
Bentleys, Ferrari's etc, you get the picture)

Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
I stopped and spoke to the officer, whom I knew from his escorting my son
home a time or two, and told him what I saw and if they needed me later to
call.

Bob R.

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That amigo just won the lottery.  You should do your good citizen part 
and testify at the inquisition.

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> How'd the Smart do getting rear-ended by the
> makeup-applying-bagel-eating-hands-free-cell-phone-talking-("now I can
multi
> task more when I drive")screaming-kid-correcting-SUV driving woman? 
> Actually saw a gal a couple of days ago applying eye liner with one hand
> while holding a sandwich with the other driving 50 in a 40 while yakking
> with her blueberry thingy hanging off her ear. Three blocks down the road
> her Tahoe was all up in the back seat (via the trunk) of a Neondriven
by
> an illegal. I'm sure he would have run, but his ankle was broken in half.
>
> Bob R.   
>   
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread R A Bennell
There was a utube video a while back that had the Smart and a MB sedan plough 
into each other at speed. The sedan
crumpled pretty bad to the windshield and the Smart did not --- But it bounced 
like a basketball so I don't think I
want to be inside it and I think the airbags likely only help on the first 
bounce. After that hang on.

Randy

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Around here they are either bleached blond women or bros/vatos with
twennytoos or twennyfos, neither group paying much attention to anyone else.

The Motorweek show yesterday had a test of a Smart, stressed the safety
cage aspect of the thing (it had some name, after some designer) and the
airbags it had.  They said it was made to cause the other vehicle's
crush zones to activate as well in a crash, while it was being crushed.
No word on the physics of a 5500lb v. 1800lb crash at 30 or 70 mph.  Did
not inspire confidence in this viewer, though I could see it would be
fun having one to putt around town.  They showed it parking crosswise in
a parking space in front of a bigass pickemup, but they were both
stationary.  I got the "t-bone" image though.

--R

Zeitgeist wrote:
> You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about
> the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the
> stoopid jerks.
>
> >From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough
> little cars.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Rich Thomas
That amigo just won the lottery.  You should do your good citizen part 
and testify at the inquisition.

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> How'd the Smart do getting rear-ended by the
> makeup-applying-bagel-eating-hands-free-cell-phone-talking-("now I can multi
> task more when I drive")screaming-kid-correcting-SUV driving woman? 
> Actually saw a gal a couple of days ago applying eye liner with one hand
> while holding a sandwich with the other driving 50 in a 40 while yakking
> with her blueberry thingy hanging off her ear. Three blocks down the road
> her Tahoe was all up in the back seat (via the trunk) of a Neondriven by
> an illegal. I'm sure he would have run, but his ankle was broken in half.
>
> Bob R.   
>   
>

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Zeitgeist
I think the Smart's safety cage design is similar to that which is found on
my Vanagon.  Both vehicles are deceptively vulnerable looking, yet have
rigid structures that utilize the other car's crumple zones for protection.
Frontal impacts into solid stationary objects are their achilles heel.
http://www.vanagon.com/info/safety/volvo-crash/index.html

On Jan 21, 2008 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Around here they are either bleached blond women or bros/vatos with
> twennytoos or twennyfos, neither group paying much attention to anyone
> else.
>
> The Motorweek show yesterday had a test of a Smart, stressed the safety
> cage aspect of the thing (it had some name, after some designer) and the
> airbags it had.  They said it was made to cause the other vehicle's
> crush zones to activate as well in a crash, while it was being crushed.
> No word on the physics of a 5500lb v. 1800lb crash at 30 or 70 mph.  Did
> not inspire confidence in this viewer, though I could see it would be
> fun having one to putt around town.  They showed it parking crosswise in
> a parking space in front of a bigass pickemup, but they were both
> stationary.  I got the "t-bone" image though.
>
> --R
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
> > You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching
> about
> > the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these
> parts--the
> > stoopid jerks.
> >
> > >From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly
> tough
> > little cars.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread R A Bennell
Oh come on - are they any worse than the smug old f**ts driving clapped out MB 
diesels, talking on their cell
phones and moaning about the price of diesel these days?

Randy (with an old MB and a cell phone)

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You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about
the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the
stoopid jerks.

>From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough
little cars.

On Jan 21, 2008 8:48 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
> weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
> slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
> we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
> holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
> the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
> to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
> deathtrap.
>
> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
> look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
> perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
> following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
> Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
> mightily to his passenger about us.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Around here they are either bleached blond women or bros/vatos with 
twennytoos or twennyfos, neither group paying much attention to anyone else.

The Motorweek show yesterday had a test of a Smart, stressed the safety 
cage aspect of the thing (it had some name, after some designer) and the 
airbags it had.  They said it was made to cause the other vehicle's 
crush zones to activate as well in a crash, while it was being crushed.  
No word on the physics of a 5500lb v. 1800lb crash at 30 or 70 mph.  Did 
not inspire confidence in this viewer, though I could see it would be 
fun having one to putt around town.  They showed it parking crosswise in 
a parking space in front of a bigass pickemup, but they were both 
stationary.  I got the "t-bone" image though.

--R

Zeitgeist wrote:
> You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about
> the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the
> stoopid jerks.
>
> >From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough
> little cars.
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread R A Bennell
So, does that mean they pedal harder? Are there pedals for the passenger too?

Randy (who thinks they are cute but does not want one)

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We have lots of Smarts around here.  They have no problem keeping up at
75mph on the highway, and no problems getting to 75 either.  Driving at
60-70, I've had more than a few zip by me. :-)

Ed
300E

On 21/01/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe they just couldn't keep up.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart
>
>
> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
> weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
> slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
> we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
> holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
> the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
> to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
> deathtrap.
>
> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
> look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
> perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
> following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
> Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
> mightily to his passenger about us.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
How'd the Smart do getting rear-ended by the
makeup-applying-bagel-eating-hands-free-cell-phone-talking-("now I can multi
task more when I drive")screaming-kid-correcting-SUV driving woman? 
Actually saw a gal a couple of days ago applying eye liner with one hand
while holding a sandwich with the other driving 50 in a 40 while yakking
with her blueberry thingy hanging off her ear. Three blocks down the road
her Tahoe was all up in the back seat (via the trunk) of a Neondriven by
an illegal. I'm sure he would have run, but his ankle was broken in half.

Bob R.   

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You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about
the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the
stoopid jerks.

>From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly
tough
little cars.

On Jan 21, 2008 8:48 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
> weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
> slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
> we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
> holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
> the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
> to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
> deathtrap.
>
> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
> look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
> perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
> following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
> Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
> mightily to his passenger about us.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Allan Streib
Maybe they were trying to squeeze out another couple of MPG by driving
55.

Allan
-- 
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1966 230

"E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We have lots of Smarts around here.  They have no problem keeping up
> at 75mph on the highway, and no problems getting to 75 either.
> Driving at 60-70, I've had more than a few zip by me. :-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 21/01/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe they just couldn't keep up.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:48 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart
>>
>>
>> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this weekend,
>> and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly slowly on
>> the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once we reached the
>> main road it was possible to find out what the holdup was, and it
>> turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking, the first time I've seen
>> one in person.  Apparently not up to going even 55 mph with two
>> people in them.  Looks like a deathtrap.
>>
>> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good look at
>> the front.  At the next light they hung well back, perhaps four car
>> lengths.  Apparently they don't like following old diesels.  (We
>> were in the infamous Chicken Wagon.)  Probably some smug
>> enviro-bastard, bitching mightily to his passenger about us.
>>

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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread E M
We have lots of Smarts around here.  They have no problem keeping up at
75mph on the highway, and no problems getting to 75 either.  Driving at
60-70, I've had more than a few zip by me. :-)

Ed
300E

On 21/01/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe they just couldn't keep up.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:48 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart
>
>
> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
> weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
> slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
> we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
> holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
> the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
> to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
> deathtrap.
>
> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
> look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
> perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
> following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
> Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
> mightily to his passenger about us.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Zeitgeist
You're still far more likely to encounter smug SUV-bastards bitching about
the high price of gas while chatting on cell phones 'round these parts--the
stoopid jerks.

>From what I've seen in crash test videos, the Smart's are surprisingly tough
little cars.

On Jan 21, 2008 8:48 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
> weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
> slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
> we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
> holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
> the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
> to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
> deathtrap.
>
> We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
> look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
> perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
> following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
> Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
> mightily to his passenger about us.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread R A Bennell
Maybe they just couldn't keep up.

Randy

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So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
deathtrap.

We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
mightily to his passenger about us.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] (Not so) Smart

2008-01-21 Thread Jim Cathey
So we were on a road trip in the greater Seattle area this
weekend, and got trapped in a line of traffic going particularly
slowly on the 2-lane highway through Fort Lewis to Roy.  Once
we reached the main road it was possible to find out what the
holdup was, and it turned out to be a Smart.  Weird looking,
the first time I've seen one in person.  Apparently not up
to going even 55 mph with two people in them.  Looks like a
deathtrap.

We ended up in front of them at the light so I got a good
look at the front.  At the next light they hung well back,
perhaps four car lengths.  Apparently they don't like
following old diesels.  (We were in the infamous Chicken
Wagon.)  Probably some smug enviro-bastard, bitching
mightily to his passenger about us.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] not so Smart

2008-01-04 Thread Hendrik & Fay
These ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s
and they are faster than a Farrari 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1zQMcSsk0
Perhaps it's time to trade the C class in :-)

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Re: [MBZ] not so Smart

2008-01-04 Thread RELNGSON
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I know you have not seen the crash tests on the Snart.

RLE
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