[MBZ] ? Anybody there?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Nothing from Okieland coming here.

Wilt

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Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz down again?



I'm getting them.
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On September 15, 2017 11:29:37 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am again not getting from the list the emails I have sent to it ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> I was just a minute ago, but left.

I am right.
Isn't this too political?  left...right
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was just a minute ago, but left.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:07 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So calm yourself
> And stop that fuss
> There ain't nobody here but us!
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Nobody here, just us chickens.
> > Fred
> >
> > 
> > From: Mercedes  on behalf of WILTON via
> > Mercedes 
> > Sent: 30 September 2015 14:31
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> > Cc: WILTON
> > Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

So calm yourself
And stop that fuss
There ain't nobody here but us!

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> Nobody here, just us chickens.
> Fred
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of WILTON via
> Mercedes 
> Sent: 30 September 2015 14:31
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> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Nobody here, just us chickens.
Fred


From: Mercedes  on behalf of WILTON via Mercedes 

Sent: 30 September 2015 14:31
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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

nope

Vacant

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Gary Hurst]

More and more real email is ending up in my spam filter every day

On Thursday, June 12, 2014, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> Check your spam folder.  I had 11 messages waiting there.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond  > wrote:
>
> > I'm on a work trip to California, last week I gave training and I will
> > again Wed-Fri. Today and tomorrow I'm sitting in on a ProTools tech
> class.
> > ProTools is pretty much the standard for audio editing software. Most
> > everything you hear has probably at least touched PT at some point. Most
> of
> > it flys right over my head, I really don't have the background to
> > understand it. The idea behind my sitting into the class is to just help
> me
> > to talk to audio customers more coherently.
> >
> > Yesterday I took my Dodge Challenger rental on the Angeles Crest Highway
> > which runs through the Angeles National Forest. Very fun twisty mountain
> > driving. Leave the slushbox in 2nd, enter a curve around 40mph, exit at
> > about 55mph, run up to maybe 65mph then hard on the brakes before the
> next
> > curve always slightly worried some slowpoke will be loafing at 35mph up
> > ahead. Fortunately on a Sunday afternoon there aren't that many
> tourists. I
> > had the windows down and the radio off and could just hear some fun
> engine
> > note at 4500rpm. If I had one of these cars the first thing I'd do is
> put a
> > louder exhaust on it. My rental also has VERY long legs, the little 6cyl
> > doesn't make much power below about 3,000rpm which means 2nd gear at
> 40mph
> > just starts to get fun. A lower gearset and a manual trans would make it
> a
> > much more entertaining car. Still for a rental its not bad.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:40:37 -0400
> > From: "WILTON" >
> > To: "mercedes list" >
> > Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> > Message-ID: <259470778EA4424587D394B5A9E3403E@wiltonPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Am I being shunned again?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[OK Don]

And most of them were from Curt . . .


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> Check your spam folder.  I had 11 messages waiting there.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Check your spam folder.  I had 11 messages waiting there.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I'm on a work trip to California, last week I gave training and I will
> again Wed-Fri. Today and tomorrow I'm sitting in on a ProTools tech class.
> ProTools is pretty much the standard for audio editing software. Most
> everything you hear has probably at least touched PT at some point. Most of
> it flys right over my head, I really don't have the background to
> understand it. The idea behind my sitting into the class is to just help me
> to talk to audio customers more coherently.
>
> Yesterday I took my Dodge Challenger rental on the Angeles Crest Highway
> which runs through the Angeles National Forest. Very fun twisty mountain
> driving. Leave the slushbox in 2nd, enter a curve around 40mph, exit at
> about 55mph, run up to maybe 65mph then hard on the brakes before the next
> curve always slightly worried some slowpoke will be loafing at 35mph up
> ahead. Fortunately on a Sunday afternoon there aren't that many tourists. I
> had the windows down and the radio off and could just hear some fun engine
> note at 4500rpm. If I had one of these cars the first thing I'd do is put a
> louder exhaust on it. My rental also has VERY long legs, the little 6cyl
> doesn't make much power below about 3,000rpm which means 2nd gear at 40mph
> just starts to get fun. A lower gearset and a manual trans would make it a
> much more entertaining car. Still for a rental its not bad.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:40:37 -0400
> From: "WILTON" 
> To: "mercedes list" 
> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> Message-ID: <259470778EA4424587D394B5A9E3403E@wiltonPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Am I being shunned again?
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dan Penoff]

That's good, as long as there's no breaking wind


Sorry.

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> On Jun 10, 2014, at 11:56 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:
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> Depend on circulating air (wind) for that.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dwight Giles" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> How about emissions system?
>>> On Jun 10, 2014 10:53 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Walker and scooter have appropriate reflectors, though.
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You gotta have a reason.  No tail lights on his walker, perhaps?  No
>>>> muffler on his motorized wheel chair?
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/9/2014 11:21 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>>> i am shunning you
>>>> 
>>>> Am I being shunned again?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Depend on circulating air (wind) for that.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



How about emissions system?
On Jun 10, 2014 10:53 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:


Walker and scooter have appropriate reflectors, though.

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


 You gotta have a reason.  No tail lights on his walker, perhaps?  No

muffler on his motorized wheel chair?
Gerry

On 6/9/2014 11:21 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i am shunning you

Am I being shunned again?
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dwight Giles]

How about emissions system?
On Jun 10, 2014 10:53 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Walker and scooter have appropriate reflectors, though.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: 
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>
>
>  You gotta have a reason.  No tail lights on his walker, perhaps?  No
>> muffler on his motorized wheel chair?
>> Gerry
>>
>> On 6/9/2014 11:21 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> i am shunning you
>>
>> Am I being shunned again?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Walker and scooter have appropriate reflectors, though.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


You gotta have a reason.  No tail lights on his walker, perhaps?  No 
muffler on his motorized wheel chair?

Gerry

On 6/9/2014 11:21 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i am shunning you

Am I being shunned again?
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

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You gotta have a reason.  No tail lights on his walker, perhaps?  No 
muffler on his motorized wheel chair?

Gerry

On 6/9/2014 11:21 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i am shunning you

Am I being shunned again?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Curt Raymond]

I'm on a work trip to California, last week I gave training and I will again 
Wed-Fri. Today and tomorrow I'm sitting in on a ProTools tech class. ProTools 
is pretty much the standard for audio editing software. Most everything you 
hear has probably at least touched PT at some point. Most of it flys right over 
my head, I really don't have the background to understand it. The idea behind 
my sitting into the class is to just help me to talk to audio customers more 
coherently.

Yesterday I took my Dodge Challenger rental on the Angeles Crest Highway which 
runs through the Angeles National Forest. Very fun twisty mountain driving. 
Leave the slushbox in 2nd, enter a curve around 40mph, exit at about 55mph, run 
up to maybe 65mph then hard on the brakes before the next curve always slightly 
worried some slowpoke will be loafing at 35mph up ahead. Fortunately on a 
Sunday afternoon there aren't that many tourists. I had the windows down and 
the radio off and could just hear some fun engine note at 4500rpm. If I had one 
of these cars the first thing I'd do is put a louder exhaust on it. My rental 
also has VERY long legs, the little 6cyl doesn't make much power below about 
3,000rpm which means 2nd gear at 40mph just starts to get fun. A lower gearset 
and a manual trans would make it a much more entertaining car. Still for a 
rental its not bad.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:40:37 -0400
From: "WILTON" 
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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
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Am I being shunned again?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Wonder why the first one I sent never came back to me.  That's OK, though, 
seems to be working now.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:42:10 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:


Well, this one worked; one a few minutes ago did not.  What the ?


Well, both of them worked and I just sent the second of two emails this
morning.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

No, evidently not.

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



i am shunning you


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:40 AM, WILTON  wrote:


Am I being shunned again?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Jim Cathey]

I'm not.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

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i am shunning you


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[Craig]

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:42:10 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Well, this one worked; one a few minutes ago did not.  What the ?

Well, both of them worked and I just sent the second of two emails this
morning.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Um-hmm.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Nope.


On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:32 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Wilt
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Nope.

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Well, this one worked; one a few minutes ago did not.  What the ?

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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Am I being shunned again?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Randy Bennell]

But, if you are a corpse you likely don't need them too bad.
Then it is time to call the padre.

Randy

On 08/04/2013 2:15 PM, WILTON wrote:

'Til ya need one.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On 08/04/2013 1:20 PM, WILTON wrote:

medical corpsman - typhoid/yellow fever, etc.

Yeah, I know, Max, it was hard to resist.  'Had that thought, 
myself, but also thought "medical corpsman" would squelch the urge.  
;<)


Wilton



"corpsman" does not really instill confidence does it?

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[WILTON]

'Til ya need one.

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On 08/04/2013 1:20 PM, WILTON wrote:

medical corpsman - typhoid/yellow fever, etc.

Yeah, I know, Max, it was hard to resist.  'Had that thought, myself, 
but also thought "medical corpsman" would squelch the urge.  ;<)


Wilton



"corpsman" does not really instill confidence does it?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Randy Bennell]

On 08/04/2013 1:20 PM, WILTON wrote:

medical corpsman - typhoid/yellow fever, etc.

Yeah, I know, Max, it was hard to resist.  'Had that thought, myself, 
but also thought "medical corpsman" would squelch the urge.  ;<)


Wilton



"corpsman" does not really instill confidence does it?

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

medical corpsman - typhoid/yellow fever, etc.

Yeah, I know, Max, it was hard to resist.  'Had that thought, myself, but 
also thought "medical corpsman" would squelch the urge.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Shots of Jack Daniels or typhoid/yellow fever/etc?

;)

--
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON  wrote:


You reminded me:  2 of my brothers had their ships sunk during WWII;
one on
supply/troop carrier off Casablanca; 'was later in D-Day invasion of
France
(Omaha Beach) and Okinawa; other brother, a medical corpsman on
aircraft
carrier Hornet, gave the Doolittle Raiders shots before their departure
to
bomb Japan - "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo."

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



I like those tales.  My granddaddy would spin long-winded tales that I



never wanted to listen to, but now what I would give...

My uncle, his oldest son, appears to have inherited the trait (and

some

accuse me) so he is interesting to be around (for awhile).  He got

his

ship sunk by the Japs in WWII and has some interesting tales about

that,

floating around in the middle of the Pacific for some hours waiting

to be

found, one of few survivors.

--R

On 4/8/13 10:36 AM, WILTON wrote:

Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale. ;<)

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Max Dillon]

Shots of Jack Daniels or typhoid/yellow fever/etc?

;)

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WILTON  wrote:

>You reminded me:  2 of my brothers had their ships sunk during WWII;
>one on 
>supply/troop carrier off Casablanca; 'was later in D-Day invasion of
>France 
>(Omaha Beach) and Okinawa; other brother, a medical corpsman on
>aircraft 
>carrier Hornet, gave the Doolittle Raiders shots before their departure
>to 
>bomb Japan - "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo."
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Rich Thomas" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>
>
>>I like those tales.  My granddaddy would spin long-winded tales that I
>
>>never wanted to listen to, but now what I would give...
>>
>> My uncle, his oldest son, appears to have inherited the trait (and
>some 
>> accuse me) so he is interesting to be around (for awhile).  He got
>his 
>> ship sunk by the Japs in WWII and has some interesting tales about
>that, 
>> floating around in the middle of the Pacific for some hours waiting
>to be 
>> found, one of few survivors.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 4/8/13 10:36 AM, WILTON wrote:
>>> Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale. ;<)
>>>
>>> Wilt
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
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>>> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

You reminded me:  2 of my brothers had their ships sunk during WWII; one on 
supply/troop carrier off Casablanca; 'was later in D-Day invasion of France 
(Omaha Beach) and Okinawa; other brother, a medical corpsman on aircraft 
carrier Hornet, gave the Doolittle Raiders shots before their departure to 
bomb Japan - "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


I like those tales.  My granddaddy would spin long-winded tales that I 
never wanted to listen to, but now what I would give...


My uncle, his oldest son, appears to have inherited the trait (and some 
accuse me) so he is interesting to be around (for awhile).  He got his 
ship sunk by the Japs in WWII and has some interesting tales about that, 
floating around in the middle of the Pacific for some hours waiting to be 
found, one of few survivors.


--R

On 4/8/13 10:36 AM, WILTON wrote:

Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale. ;<)

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Yep, I heard a lot of good stories, too, that I should have recorded but 
never did.  Mom was born in 1897; Dad was born in 1879, paternal grndad was 
drafted into Confederate Army in 1862 (wife and 2 children), wounded in 
Battle of Petersburg, captured at Holder's Run (POW at Pt Lookout, MD).  He 
and his wife (my grndmom) each had brother killed at Gettysburg July 3, 
1863.  Grndad also had an uncle who died as POW at Pt. Lookout.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


I like those tales.  My granddaddy would spin long-winded tales that I 
never wanted to listen to, but now what I would give...


My uncle, his oldest son, appears to have inherited the trait (and some 
accuse me) so he is interesting to be around (for awhile).  He got his 
ship sunk by the Japs in WWII and has some interesting tales about that, 
floating around in the middle of the Pacific for some hours waiting to be 
found, one of few survivors.


--R

On 4/8/13 10:36 AM, WILTON wrote:

Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale. ;<)

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Well, 60 should be enough to melt a lot of that snow and ice, anyway.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Agne" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


Valves done...all tight, but it's been 18,000 since I last did them.

HURT me on the temperature!  It might get to 60 here in Maine.

Jon


On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:59 AM, WILTON wrote:

Beautiful, calm, sunny day here (Goldsboro, NC); 63°, s'posed to get to 
79°F today.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


Adjusting valves.  For the first time in almost a week, the wind is not 
gusting 25-30.


Jon

'85 300D 108k

On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, WILTON wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Randy Bennell]

Minus 5 C here today.
Not much melting at that temperature.

Randy

On 08/04/2013 11:32 AM, Jon Agne wrote:

Valves done...all tight, but it's been 18,000 since I last did them.

HURT me on the temperature!  It might get to 60 here in Maine.

Jon


On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:59 AM, WILTON wrote:


Beautiful, calm, sunny day here (Goldsboro, NC); 63°, s'posed to get to 79°F 
today.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Adjusting valves.  For the first time in almost a week, the wind is not gusting 
25-30.

Jon

'85 300D 108k

On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, WILTON wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Jon Agne]

Valves done...all tight, but it's been 18,000 since I last did them.

HURT me on the temperature!  It might get to 60 here in Maine.

Jon


On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:59 AM, WILTON wrote:

> Beautiful, calm, sunny day here (Goldsboro, NC); 63°, s'posed to get to 79°F 
> today.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> Adjusting valves.  For the first time in almost a week, the wind is not 
>> gusting 25-30.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> '85 300D 108k
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, WILTON wrote:
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rich Thomas]

I like those tales.  My granddaddy would spin long-winded tales that I 
never wanted to listen to, but now what I would give...


My uncle, his oldest son, appears to have inherited the trait (and some 
accuse me) so he is interesting to be around (for awhile).  He got his 
ship sunk by the Japs in WWII and has some interesting tales about that, 
floating around in the middle of the Pacific for some hours waiting to 
be found, one of few survivors.


--R

On 4/8/13 10:36 AM, WILTON wrote:

Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale. ;<)

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
To: "mercedes list" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Chris James]

Yes, here too. Up to 73F today in the far west part of the state & looks 
like it will stay in the 70s for most of the week. Nice! :-)



On 4/8/2013 10:59 AM, WILTON wrote:

Beautiful, calm, sunny day here (Goldsboro, NC); 63°, s'posed to get to
79°F today.

Wilton



--
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Frederick Moir]

No body here but us chickens


 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: WILTON 
>To: mercedes list  
>Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:34 AM
>Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Beautiful, calm, sunny day here (Goldsboro, NC); 63°, s'posed to get to 79°F 
today.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Agne" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


Adjusting valves.  For the first time in almost a week, the wind is not 
gusting 25-30.


Jon

'85 300D 108k

On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, WILTON wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Jon Agne]

Adjusting valves.  For the first time in almost a week, the wind is not gusting 
25-30.

Jon

'85 300D 108k

On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:34 AM, WILTON wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Watch out!  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale.  ;<)

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Nope; just 'lectrons.

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



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[MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[Andrew Strasfogel]

ATF is what.the techs use.
On Mar 26, 2013 7:36 PM,  wrote:

> Is white lithium suitable for linkage rods if I pop them off socket and
> lube?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>
> > Lubricated in Fall, and rechecked them yesterday.  They all seem good.
> >
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:
> >
> >> are all the linkage rods lubricated with ATF
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm here, just troubleshooting cruise control this morning.  Replaced
> amp
> >>> yesterday, but now, while working, it seems super sensitive while
> >>> maintaining speed.  I did notice that the firewall grommet for the
> speedo
> >>> cable is brokenhmmm.
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>> '85 300D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Nope; just electrons.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wilt
> >>>>
> >>>> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> >>>> To: "mercedes list" 
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
> >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> >>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[Dieselhead]

Is white lithium suitable for linkage rods if I pop them off socket and lube?


I won't use that crap for anything.  It turns into the rock
it's named for, or so it seems.

-- Jim


I won't use lithium for anything for the above reasons.  I use moly 
grease.  Some I applied 30 years ago or more is still good.  It is 
the M1 of grease.  It is great for throttle linkages, motorsickle 
cables, bike cables etc.  If you don't have antiseize, it is not a 
bad stand-in when you need antiseize.


Molykote BR2 grease at your local bearing supplier/industrial supplier.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Now, you've reminded me:  I may hafta throw in a Sgt. Snorkle tale, circa 
1957.  Maybe, in a coupla days.  Lemme take a look at it for 
appropriateness.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


Wilton reminds me of my cousin.  Both entered the military as enlisted 
men, both became officers, both were good story tellers, etc.


Cousin was an army air corp logistics officer stationed in Britain during 
WW-2.  He was told to get ammunition to North Africa ASAP.  The only 
pilots available were on R&R and the only planes available were (B-24s?) 
deadlined for structural problems.  He invited the R&R pilots to a party 
and talked one of the generals into donating his stock of very scarce 
whiskey.  After the pilots got pretty well lubricated he persuaded them to 
sign a roster for a secret flight the next day.


The pilots were very unhappy about where they were going and what they 
were flying the next morning, but they successfully delivered the ammo and 
made it back to Britain.


After the war, cousin went to Chiang Kai-sheks China as General Marshalls 
logistics officer; a failed mission as everyone knows.  He finished out 
his career as a personnel officer at MacDill. AFB.


Here is info on the B-24s structural problems:

http://usaircraft.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1445&page=2#4354

Gerry

PS:  Cousins "fame" has persisted long after his military career ended.
After the war, MacDill AFB officers would hunt wild hogs on the Avon Park 
bombing range when there was no military activity.  Cousin would find 
enlisted men and "volunteer" them as "aides" for the hunts; a difficult 
and dangerous job.
One enlistee made the mistake of doing a great job on his first hunt, so 
cousin "volunteered" him many times.
After discharge, the enlistee became a successful cartoonist and 
apparently "got even" with cousin by including his cartoon image in his 
comic strips that are still being drawn by his son.
Cousins wife, a railroad workers daughter from Mississippi; who was very 
proud of being "the colonels lady"; would turn beet red anytime someone 
mentioned that infamous cartoon strip.
You can find it in nearly any major newspaper.  Look for "General 
Halftrack".  He looks just like cousin did.
Note:  The wild hog sausage from those hunts was some of the best I've 
ever eaten.


Gerry
.

From: "WILTON" 
Mighty quiet.  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale if y'all're not 
careful.

Wilton

From: "OK Don" 

NO, too early and too cold (22F).



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

I like Halftrack, especially the way he put the Lt. Fuzz to work holding 
chalkboard today.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Archer" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


Wilton reminds me of my cousin.  Both entered the military as enlisted 
men, both became officers, both were good story tellers, etc.


Cousin was an army air corp logistics officer stationed in Britain during 
WW-2.  He was told to get ammunition to North Africa ASAP.  The only 
pilots available were on R&R and the only planes available were (B-24s?) 
deadlined for structural problems.  He invited the R&R pilots to a party 
and talked one of the generals into donating his stock of very scarce 
whiskey.  After the pilots got pretty well lubricated he persuaded them to 
sign a roster for a secret flight the next day.


The pilots were very unhappy about where they were going and what they 
were flying the next morning, but they successfully delivered the ammo and 
made it back to Britain.


After the war, cousin went to Chiang Kai-sheks China as General Marshalls 
logistics officer; a failed mission as everyone knows.  He finished out 
his career as a personnel officer at MacDill. AFB.


Here is info on the B-24s structural problems:

http://usaircraft.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1445&page=2#4354

Gerry

PS:  Cousins "fame" has persisted long after his military career ended.
After the war, MacDill AFB officers would hunt wild hogs on the Avon Park 
bombing range when there was no military activity.  Cousin would find 
enlisted men and "volunteer" them as "aides" for the hunts; a difficult 
and dangerous job.
One enlistee made the mistake of doing a great job on his first hunt, so 
cousin "volunteered" him many times.
After discharge, the enlistee became a successful cartoonist and 
apparently "got even" with cousin by including his cartoon image in his 
comic strips that are still being drawn by his son.
Cousins wife, a railroad workers daughter from Mississippi; who was very 
proud of being "the colonels lady"; would turn beet red anytime someone 
mentioned that infamous cartoon strip.
You can find it in nearly any major newspaper.  Look for "General 
Halftrack".  He looks just like cousin did.
Note:  The wild hog sausage from those hunts was some of the best I've 
ever eaten.


Gerry
.

From: "WILTON" 
Mighty quiet.  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale if y'all're not 
careful.

Wilton

From: "OK Don" 

NO, too early and too cold (22F).



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[dseretakis]

Is white lithium suitable for linkage rods if I pop them off socket and lube?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Lubricated in Fall, and rechecked them yesterday.  They all seem good.
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:
> 
>> are all the linkage rods lubricated with ATF
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm here, just troubleshooting cruise control this morning.  Replaced amp
>>> yesterday, but now, while working, it seems super sensitive while
>>> maintaining speed.  I did notice that the firewall grommet for the speedo
>>> cable is brokenhmmm.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> '85 300D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nope; just electrons.
>>>> 
>>>> Wilt
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
>>>> To: "mercedes list" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Gerry Archer]

Wilton reminds me of my cousin.  Both entered the military as enlisted men, 
both became officers, both were good story tellers, etc.


Cousin was an army air corp logistics officer stationed in Britain during 
WW-2.  He was told to get ammunition to North Africa ASAP.  The only pilots 
available were on R&R and the only planes available were (B-24s?) deadlined 
for structural problems.  He invited the R&R pilots to a party and talked 
one of the generals into donating his stock of very scarce whiskey.  After 
the pilots got pretty well lubricated he persuaded them to sign a roster for 
a secret flight the next day.


The pilots were very unhappy about where they were going and what they were 
flying the next morning, but they successfully delivered the ammo and made 
it back to Britain.


After the war, cousin went to Chiang Kai-sheks China as General Marshalls 
logistics officer; a failed mission as everyone knows.  He finished out his 
career as a personnel officer at MacDill. AFB.


Here is info on the B-24s structural problems:

http://usaircraft.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1445&page=2#4354

Gerry

PS:  Cousins "fame" has persisted long after his military career ended.
After the war, MacDill AFB officers would hunt wild hogs on the Avon Park 
bombing range when there was no military activity.  Cousin would find 
enlisted men and "volunteer" them as "aides" for the hunts; a difficult and 
dangerous job.
One enlistee made the mistake of doing a great job on his first hunt, so 
cousin "volunteered" him many times.
After discharge, the enlistee became a successful cartoonist and apparently 
"got even" with cousin by including his cartoon image in his comic strips 
that are still being drawn by his son.
Cousins wife, a railroad workers daughter from Mississippi; who was very 
proud of being "the colonels lady"; would turn beet red anytime someone 
mentioned that infamous cartoon strip.
You can find it in nearly any major newspaper.  Look for "General 
Halftrack".  He looks just like cousin did.
Note:  The wild hog sausage from those hunts was some of the best I've ever 
eaten.


Gerry
.

From: "WILTON" 
Mighty quiet.  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale if y'all're not 
careful.

Wilton

From: "OK Don" 

NO, too early and too cold (22F).



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[Jon Agne]

Lubricated in Fall, and rechecked them yesterday.  They all seem good.


On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

> are all the linkage rods lubricated with ATF
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> I'm here, just troubleshooting cruise control this morning.  Replaced amp
>> yesterday, but now, while working, it seems super sensitive while
>> maintaining speed.  I did notice that the firewall grommet for the speedo
>> cable is brokenhmmm.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> '85 300D
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope; just electrons.
>>> 
>>> Wilt
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
>>> To: "mercedes list" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Mighty quiet.  I may hafta throw in another Sondy Tale if y'all're not 
careful.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



NO, too early and too cold (22F).

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:26 AM, WILTON  wrote:


Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[Brian Toscano]

are all the linkage rods lubricated with ATF

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> I'm here, just troubleshooting cruise control this morning.  Replaced amp
> yesterday, but now, while working, it seems super sensitive while
> maintaining speed.  I did notice that the firewall grommet for the speedo
> cable is brokenhmmm.
>
> Jon
>
> '85 300D
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
>
> > Nope; just electrons.
> >
> > Wilt
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> > To: "mercedes list" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[OK Don]

NO, too early and too cold (22F).

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:26 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> Wilton
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? - CRUISE CONTROL

[Jon Agne]

I'm here, just troubleshooting cruise control this morning.  Replaced amp 
yesterday, but now, while working, it seems super sensitive while maintaining 
speed.  I did notice that the firewall grommet for the speedo cable is 
brokenhmmm.

Jon

'85 300D


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> Nope; just electrons.
> 
> Wilt
> 
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> To: "mercedes list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I was, then I left.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:26 AM, WILTON  wrote:
> Nope; just electrons.
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> To: "mercedes list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:26 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Nope; just electrons.

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



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[MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[OK Don]

On Saturday, March 9, 2013, G Mann  wrote:
> Sorry to disappoint you by not posting. I've had to shovel the sunshine
off
> my drive 3 times already this morning.
>
> Grant... ARIZONA... The very best place to have winter. SHH don't
> come.
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>
>> I had hardly any email this morning, unlike the usual deluge. Everyone
>> must be either staying in bed due to snowstorms our out working hard in
the
>> lovely weather we have here in Indiana today!
>>
>> I'll be out and about very shortly myself.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:10:44 -0700 G Mann  wrote:

> SUNSHINE... not snow... Phoenix and below the Rim, doesn't get snow.
> Flagstaff on the other hand does.. a lot. I-40 is closed I hear. Travel
> the north at your own risk. Arizona is the only state that has all 4
> seasons on the same day due to the huge diversity of climate and
> geography.

Somehow I didn't see sunshine, which is what you initially wrote.

On http://www.az511.com/adot/files/traffic/, I see only,

Description winter Storm Alert
LocationOn Interstate 40, EW-bound from mile post 225.0, 5.30
miles West of TWO GUNS to mile post 185.0, 3.30 miles
East of PARKS REST AREAS
DurationMarch 9 from 9:44 A.M. to 2:00 P.M.

We are planning on I-40 to Holbrook, and then 377/277/260/87 to Phoenix.


> Back to shoveling the sunshine off the drive... naw.. I'll just let it
> build up, haha.

Good call. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[G Mann]

SUNSHINE... not snow... Phoenix and below the Rim, doesn't get snow.
Flagstaff on the other hand does.. a lot. I-40 is closed I hear. Travel the
north at your own risk. Arizona is the only state that has all 4 seasons on
the same day due to the huge diversity of climate and geography.

Back to shoveling the sunshine off the drive... naw.. I'll just let it
build up, haha.

Grant...

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 08:58:16 -0700 G Mann  wrote:
>
> > Sorry to disappoint you by not posting. I've had to shovel the sunshine
> > off my drive 3 times already this morning.
> >
> > Grant... ARIZONA... The very best place to have winter. SHH
> > don't come.
>
> So where are you in Arizona, Grant, that you had to shovel snow? I'm
> asking because we are driving to your state on Monday.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 08:58:16 -0700 G Mann  wrote:

> Sorry to disappoint you by not posting. I've had to shovel the sunshine
> off my drive 3 times already this morning.
> 
> Grant... ARIZONA... The very best place to have winter. SHH
> don't come.

So where are you in Arizona, Grant, that you had to shovel snow? I'm
asking because we are driving to your state on Monday.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[G Mann]

Sorry to disappoint you by not posting. I've had to shovel the sunshine off
my drive 3 times already this morning.

Grant... ARIZONA... The very best place to have winter. SHH don't
come.

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> I had hardly any email this morning, unlike the usual deluge. Everyone
> must be either staying in bed due to snowstorms our out working hard in the
> lovely weather we have here in Indiana today!
>
> I'll be out and about very shortly myself.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Me, too.  Beautiful weather here in eastern NC, also - sunny and 39F right 
now, headed to 61F.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


I had hardly any email this morning, unlike the usual deluge. Everyone 
must be either staying in bed due to snowstorms our out working hard  in 
the lovely weather we have here in Indiana today!


I'll be out and about very shortly myself.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Gerry Archer]

Anybody there?
Wilton


I had hardly any email this morning, unlike the usual deluge. Everyone
must be either staying in bed due to snowstorms our out working hard
in the lovely weather we have here in Indiana today!
I'll be out and about very shortly myself.
Peter


It's the dark of the moon.  65% of the time there is more email during the
light of the moon than the dark of the moon.

More babies are born during the light of the moon.

Psychiatric wards go wild during the light of the moon.

There is much debate about the effect of the moon on human behaviour and
various research studies have disproven it, but employees of psychiatric and
obstetric wards know otherwise since they have to put in extra
supplies/drugs before the light of the moon.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Peter Frederick]

I had hardly any email this morning, unlike the usual deluge. Everyone  
must be either staying in bed due to snowstorms our out working hard  
in the lovely weather we have here in Indiana today!


I'll be out and about very shortly myself.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Nope; just 'lectrons.

Wilton

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[MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? No, gone sight seeing.

[WILTON]

'Doubt if there're any of those bikinis there quite yet - late Feb.  Don't 
forget, we're on the cold/cool side right now.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? No, gone sight seeing.



Hey Wilton we've all gone down to the beach in Virginia, wanna join us?

Hendrik
who is wearing very baggy shorts

On 28/02/13 01:47, WILTON wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? No, gone sight seeing.

[Hendrik and fay]

Hey Wilton we've all gone down to the beach in Virginia, wanna join us?

Hendrik
who is wearing very baggy shorts

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:13:57 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> 'Hope all goes well.

Thank you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

'Hope all goes well.

Wilton

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From: "Craig" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:17:25 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:


Wilton


Ja. Ich bin hier!

Calling and making arrangements for my surgery, which is supposed to be
on Pi Day (3.14 -- March 14), among many other things.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:17:25 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Wilton

Ja. Ich bin hier!

Calling and making arrangements for my surgery, which is supposed to be
on Pi Day (3.14 -- March 14), among many other things.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Well, the electrons are still active, anyway.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "mercedes list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:17 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Wilton
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[MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? school

[Craig]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:50:10 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> The boy who is 28 and 2nd yr med school yesterday made the comment
> about the first years -- "They are really young." Too funny.  My wife
> started med school at 36, the "kids" were really really young to her!

I went to grad school at 41 and, yes, the "kids" were young. I recall
puzzling over the author of a mathematics textbook whose name was
familiar. When I realized and exclaimed out loud that I had the author's
father as my math instructor in college, I got a good laugh out of all of
the others in the study session.

They were, however, very supportive and encouraging of me. That was
particularly helpful my first semester back after being out for 20 years.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? school

[Rich Thomas]

The boy who is 28 and 2nd yr med school yesterday made the comment about 
the first years -- "They are really young." Too funny.  My wife started 
med school at 36, the "kids" were really really young to her!


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

As I was approaching graduation at age 37, SWMBO and others, including head 
of the civil engineering graduate school, kept telling me, "You should go on 
graduate school while you're at it."  My reply, "Any more schooling I do is 
gonna be on full pay and allowances."  'Thought I'd be able to go to 
graduate school (Air Force Institute of Technology) in the Air Force.  By 
the time I was selected for it, the final selection board thought I was "too 
senior" (40-year-old major) - 'sent 24-year-old lieutenant, instead.  I went 
straight to base civil engineering job I would have gotten after the school, 
anyway - straight from flying B-52's to base civil engineer (Well, for 4 
years, anyway, then back to B-52's.)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


That has a great deal to do with it, as well as the ability to manage time 
and projects that comes with maturity and managing a household/family.


I always got a kick out of the "kids" in my cohort that would be wildly 
texting and carrying on the Sunday before a project or paper was due. 
"Let's meet in the library at 11:00 (pm) Sunday night and have a study 
session!"


No thanks, kids, I was done with this last week.  I'm going to get some 
sleep.


I think a lot of the "silly" and "ridiculous" has more to do with dealing 
with the maturity and frontal lobe development of the typical 18-22 year 
old.  If the majority of students were in their 30s or 40s a lot of that 
would not be necessary, I believe.


The one crippling aspect of higher education at a later age is the 
inability to realize the benefits of such if you decide to progress into 
graduate school.  I was seriously considering continuing on until I 
realized that, A: I would never reach my full earnings potential due to 
the late start in my career, and B: the cost/benefit aspect of it didn't 
make sense, either.  I didn't want to be paying student loans out of my SS 
or pension...


Sure would have been fun and challenging, however.

Dan


On Dec 22, 2012, at 11:13 AM, WILTON wrote:

At 34-37, I found it to be reasonably easy, too, in a program "geared" to 
18-21-year-olds.  'Found a lot of it to be very silly and ridiculous, but 
I "went along" with it, took my mostly A's and moved along.  'Course, I 
was totally committed, highly dedicated and fully determined.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Craig" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:19:15 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:


And I will say that as a "mature student" college is far, far easier.


I agree with that statement, having gone back to school 20 years after 
my

Bachelors.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dan Penoff]

That has a great deal to do with it, as well as the ability to manage time and 
projects that comes with maturity and managing a household/family.

I always got a kick out of the "kids" in my cohort that would be wildly texting 
and carrying on the Sunday before a project or paper was due.  "Let's meet in 
the library at 11:00 (pm) Sunday night and have a study session!"

No thanks, kids, I was done with this last week.  I'm going to get some sleep.

I think a lot of the "silly" and "ridiculous" has more to do with dealing with 
the maturity and frontal lobe development of the typical 18-22 year old.  If 
the majority of students were in their 30s or 40s a lot of that would not be 
necessary, I believe.

The one crippling aspect of higher education at a later age is the inability to 
realize the benefits of such if you decide to progress into graduate school.  I 
was seriously considering continuing on until I realized that, A: I would never 
reach my full earnings potential due to the late start in my career, and B: the 
cost/benefit aspect of it didn't make sense, either.  I didn't want to be 
paying student loans out of my SS or pension...

Sure would have been fun and challenging, however.

Dan


On Dec 22, 2012, at 11:13 AM, WILTON wrote:

> At 34-37, I found it to be reasonably easy, too, in a program "geared" to 
> 18-21-year-olds.  'Found a lot of it to be very silly and ridiculous, but I 
> "went along" with it, took my mostly A's and moved along.  'Course, I was 
> totally committed, highly dedicated and fully determined.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Craig" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:19:15 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> And I will say that as a "mature student" college is far, far easier.
>> 
>> I agree with that statement, having gone back to school 20 years after my
>> Bachelors.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Peter Frederick]

The maturity thing is why in Canada (or at least Ontario twenty years  
ago) kids heading for college take an extra year of high school (Grade  
13) before they go.  Makes a huge difference -- I would have GREATLY  
benefited by being a year older before I started undergrad, I really  
wasted that first year.  Big change for the second year, I'd have done  
somewhat better if I'd started then.


Spend 5 years working before I went to graduate school, and that's not  
a bad idea either!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

At 34-37, I found it to be reasonably easy, too, in a program "geared" to 
18-21-year-olds.  'Found a lot of it to be very silly and ridiculous, but I 
"went along" with it, took my mostly A's and moved along.  'Course, I was 
totally committed, highly dedicated and fully determined.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:19:15 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:


And I will say that as a "mature student" college is far, far easier.


I agree with that statement, having gone back to school 20 years after my
Bachelors.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:19:15 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> And I will say that as a "mature student" college is far, far easier.

I agree with that statement, having gone back to school 20 years after my
Bachelors.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Well, I read only what was written - "tuition."  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


That's typical tuition (including room and board) for any fine private 
institution. Brown is no exception.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Cough!  Cough!  Gag, cough!  'Nearly had to go on 100% EMERGENCY oxygen 
(for those not familiar with it, it's 100% oxygen delivered under 
pressure) when I saw that $60k!


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



What Wilton said.

I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because 
they are sending their daughter to Brown.  Will she get a good 
education? Most likely.  Will she develop connections that help her the 
rest of her life?  Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her 
family run in the rarified air that many of the other students and their 
families do.


I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of 
$60k.


Is it really worth it?  I don't think so.

Dan

B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007



On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

I've always said, too, "You can get a good education most anywhere; 
'depends on what you put into it."  I worked my a$$ off at NC State, 
especially the second time.  I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, 
either.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she 
needed/wanted to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are 
taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main 
thing they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind 
of cred, and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in 
the world. If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training 
anywhere, pretty much depends on what you put into it.  I have a fair 
number of friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never 
felt like they got a really great deal from the experience.


These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage 
dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). 
They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough.


--R


On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I 
would

expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dan Penoff]

This was the second time around.  First degree (A.S.) was from a technical 
school.  And I will say that as a "mature student" college is far, far easier.

Dan


On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
> 
>> B.S., Magna cum Laude, University 
>> of South Florida, Class of 2007
> 
> Huh? If you are as mature as I think you are, you would've graduated college 
> about 1982-83
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[dseretakis]

That's typical tuition (including room and board) for any fine private 
institution. Brown is no exception.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Cough!  Cough!  Gag, cough!  'Nearly had to go on 100% EMERGENCY oxygen (for 
> those not familiar with it, it's 100% oxygen delivered under pressure) when I 
> saw that $60k!
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> What Wilton said.
>> 
>> I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because they 
>> are sending their daughter to Brown.  Will she get a good education? Most 
>> likely.  Will she develop connections that help her the rest of her life?  
>> Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her family run in the 
>> rarified air that many of the other students and their families do.
>> 
>> I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of $60k.
>> 
>> Is it really worth it?  I don't think so.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote:
>> 
>>> I've always said, too, "You can get a good education most anywhere; 
>>> 'depends on what you put into it."  I worked my a$$ off at NC State, 
>>> especially the second time.  I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, 
>>> either.
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she 
>>>> needed/wanted to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are 
>>>> taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main thing 
>>>> they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, 
>>>> and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If 
>>>> you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty 
>>>> much depends on what you put into it.  I have a fair number of friends who 
>>>> went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a 
>>>> really great deal from the experience.
>>>> 
>>>> These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
>>>> transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage 
>>>> dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). 
>>>> They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough.
>>>> 
>>>> --R
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:
>>>>> Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
>>>>> between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I would
>>>>> expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Tim
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rick Knoble]

On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> B.S., Magna cum Laude, University 
> of South Florida, Class of 2007

Huh? If you are as mature as I think you are, you would've graduated college 
about 1982-83

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Cough!  Cough!  Gag, cough!  'Nearly had to go on 100% EMERGENCY oxygen (for 
those not familiar with it, it's 100% oxygen delivered under pressure) when 
I saw that $60k!


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



What Wilton said.

I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because 
they are sending their daughter to Brown.  Will she get a good education? 
Most likely.  Will she develop connections that help her the rest of her 
life?  Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her family run in 
the rarified air that many of the other students and their families do.


I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of $60k.

Is it really worth it?  I don't think so.

Dan

B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007



On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

I've always said, too, "You can get a good education most anywhere; 
'depends on what you put into it."  I worked my a$$ off at NC State, 
especially the second time.  I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, 
either.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she 
needed/wanted to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are 
taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main thing 
they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, 
and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. 
If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, 
pretty much depends on what you put into it.  I have a fair number of 
friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like 
they got a really great deal from the experience.


These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage 
dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). 
They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough.


--R


On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I 
would

expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dan Penoff]

What Wilton said.

I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because they 
are sending their daughter to Brown.  Will she get a good education?  Most 
likely.  Will she develop connections that help her the rest of her life?  
Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her family run in the rarified 
air that many of the other students and their families do.

I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of $60k.

Is it really worth it?  I don't think so.

Dan

B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007



On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

> I've always said, too, "You can get a good education most anywhere; 'depends 
> on what you put into it."  I worked my a$$ off at NC State, especially the 
> second time.  I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, either.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she needed/wanted 
>> to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are taught by grad 
>> students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main thing they put forth is 
>> that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, and if you work it 
>> well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If you are half-smart 
>> you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty much depends on what 
>> you put into it.  I have a fair number of friends who went there, they are 
>> all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a really great deal from the 
>> experience.
>> 
>> These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
>> transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage dumpster-living 
>> orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). They manage to do 
>> that too, surprisingly enough.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:
>>> Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
>>> between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I would
>>> expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Tim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

I've always said, too, "You can get a good education most anywhere; 'depends 
on what you put into it."  I worked my a$$ off at NC State, especially the 
second time.  I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, either.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?


My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she 
needed/wanted to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are 
taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main thing 
they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, 
and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. 
If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, 
pretty much depends on what you put into it.  I have a fair number of 
friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like 
they got a really great deal from the experience.


These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage 
dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). 
They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough.


--R


On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I 
would

expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rich Thomas]

My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she 
needed/wanted to do.  It is way overrated.  Most undergrad classes are 
taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes.  The main thing 
they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, 
and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world.  
If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, 
pretty much depends on what you put into it.  I have a fair number of 
friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like 
they got a really great deal from the experience.


These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay 
transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage 
dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points).  
They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough.


--R


On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote:

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I would
expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Well, of course, I meant "stay on in Chapel Hill for grad school."  ;<)

I got a pretty good education at NC State, too - twice.

My thoughts, too, re. provisions for 'im.  That's why I've been telling 'im 
for years, "Prepare yourself well - day-by-day, every day."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, WILTON  wrote:

Well, this time, Daddy (nor Grndad) doesn't have the bucks.  That's why 
he

may stay in Chapel Hill, but we'll see what develops.



Wow, that's a commute even by Curt's standards!  Wouldn't want to sign up
for too many 8am classes!

Harvard would let him meet and study with other smart people.  I don't
think I got a bad education at NC State, but I didn't meet a lot of
exceptionally brilliant folks.  On the other hand, there are much more
cost-effective ways to meet smart people. :)

Depending on his degree it may or may not be a big difference.  Technology
seems less driven by the institution, but I know that managers often give
preference to their alma mater when hiring upstream.

Remember that the Ivy League has access to a lot of money for its 
students.

If they want him to come, they can make sure he has food and shelter, even
though he doesn't necessarily have the resources to pay for it on his own.

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I would
expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Tim C]

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Well, this time, Daddy (nor Grndad) doesn't have the bucks.  That's why he
> may stay in Chapel Hill, but we'll see what develops.


Wow, that's a commute even by Curt's standards!  Wouldn't want to sign up
for too many 8am classes!

Harvard would let him meet and study with other smart people.  I don't
think I got a bad education at NC State, but I didn't meet a lot of
exceptionally brilliant folks.  On the other hand, there are much more
cost-effective ways to meet smart people. :)

Depending on his degree it may or may not be a big difference.  Technology
seems less driven by the institution, but I know that managers often give
preference to their alma mater when hiring upstream.

Remember that the Ivy League has access to a lot of money for its students.
 If they want him to come, they can make sure he has food and shelter, even
though he doesn't necessarily have the resources to pay for it on his own.

Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference
between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you.  I would
expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:24 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel
 wrote:

> I shared a $75/month huge 2 BR apt. walking distance from the
> Minneapolis campus of the U of M back in grad school.  Life was really
> cheap there.  Next year I had my own basement apt. near the St. Paul
> campus for $90/mo IIRC.  The landlord purchased my 1959 Volvo for $325
> cash when I left decided to join the Peace Corps.

That must have been a few years ago


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I shared a $75/month huge 2 BR apt. walking distance from the
Minneapolis campus of the U of M back in grad school.  Life was really
cheap there.  Next year I had my own basement apt. near the St. Paul
campus for $90/mo IIRC.  The landlord purchased my 1959 Volvo for $325
cash when I left decided to join the Peace Corps.


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:
> Not there, it is never closed.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/20/12 11:29 PM, Craig wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:26:48 -0500 Rich Thomas
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a
>>> bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a
>>> corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically
>>> went to class and studied the rest of the time.  That was their life,
>>> but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only).
>>
>> Now that's a wonder. Any place I have been closed the library at night
>> and threw everyone out.
>>
>>
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rich Thomas]

Not there, it is never closed.

--R

On 12/20/12 11:29 PM, Craig wrote:

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:26:48 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:


There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a
bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a
corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically
went to class and studied the rest of the time.  That was their life,
but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only).

Now that's a wonder. Any place I have been closed the library at night
and threw everyone out.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rich Thomas]

I had a young lady friend who lived a block or so from the Jumboschool, 
she and a coupla other girls shared a floor of a big house.  Spent a 
fair amount of time there.  I looked at an apt for myself about a block 
from there, across from the practice field, but the girl who was living 
there told me the landlady (an old Italian lady) liked to snoop around 
their stuff while they were gone so she did not recommend it.  The old 
lady liked me as I was not a student and offered to lower the rent, but 
I figured she would be a total PITA so I begged off.  I think the rent 
at the time was like $400 and she offered me $375.


--R

On 12/20/12 8:02 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ha. Not anymore! Modest two family homes near Tufts get upwards of 6K in rent 
monthly!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:


Check the local Craigslist postings.  Rental prices drop precipitously
as you move into Somerville...






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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:26:48 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a 
> bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a 
> corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically 
> went to class and studied the rest of the time.  That was their life, 
> but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only).

Now that's a wonder. Any place I have been closed the library at night
and threw everyone out.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rich Thomas]

There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a 
bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a 
corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically 
went to class and studied the rest of the time.  That was their life, 
but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only).


--R

On 12/20/12 6:05 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

WILTON wrote:

I was thinking Bahston, and I was afraid of such on the living costs.



They would have paid me something like $25k plus a tuition waiver for 
a 20 hour a week research assistantship back in 1993. I presume I 
would have had no trouble paying the rent on that. (but I would have 
been tempted to live in a van in student parking instead, when school 
is your whole life all you really need is a place to park your clothes 
and a mattress to sleep on)


Mitch.

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