Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Dunno,  you may be able to buy a new or used motherboard, depending on 
how popular the machine was.  I got a board level repair for $200, but 
that makes no sense if the laptop was a $300 wally land special pentium 
when it was new.


Find a computer shop that will replace the machine if they can't return 
it to you in working condition.  Pay em for doing the bios update.  It 
can't cost that much.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 22, 2016 at 8:53 PM
Exactly

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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
Exactly

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bricking a machine due to a failed BIOS update won’t affect the data stored 
> on it, you can just take the hard drive out and put it on anything else and 
> get the data.  It hoses the BIOS EEPROM and you can’t boot the machine again. 
>  In a desktop where you could pull the BIOS chip out and replace it you could 
> recover, but in a laptop where the BIOS chip is soldered to the motherboard 
> you’re pretty much screwed.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
It's good for the replacement machine that you buy after you bricked the
first one (it was going to die soon anyway ).

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A backup won't do any good if it's bricked and won't even get to the post
> screen
>
>


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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Bricking a machine due to a failed BIOS update won’t affect the data stored on 
it, you can just take the hard drive out and put it on anything else and get 
the data.  It hoses the BIOS EEPROM and you can’t boot the machine again.  In a 
desktop where you could pull the BIOS chip out and replace it you could 
recover, but in a laptop where the BIOS chip is soldered to the motherboard 
you’re pretty much screwed.


Dan


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
A backup won't do any good if it's bricked and won't even get to the post screen

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>
>
>


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OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for many 
years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 6:28 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Randy, 
> Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed 
> updates, especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 
> wants that may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. 
> It's good to keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded Win10 on my two 
> old Dell Vostros (200 and 220), I had to update the BIOS on the 200 in order 
> for Win10 to load because the original BIOS was missing a feature. After 
> updating the BIOS, Win10 loaded and has run fine since back in the Summer. 
> Just some extra info to consider. 
> Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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[MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
Randy, 
Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed updates, 
especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 wants that 
may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. It's good to 
keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded Win10 on my two old Dell 
Vostros (200 and 220), I had to update the BIOS on the 200 in order for Win10 
to load because the original BIOS was missing a feature. After updating the 
BIOS, Win10 loaded and has run fine since back in the Summer. Just some extra 
info to consider. 
Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

Thanks Fred. Good to know.

RB

On 22/12/2016 12:00 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Randy.

I have  two laptops with first gen I7's running 10 with no issues.

Sony Viao and an HP Pavilion.

YMMV.

Fred


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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes 
Randy.

I have  two laptops with first gen I7's running 10 with no issues.

Sony Viao and an HP Pavilion.

YMMV.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Subject: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

My computer guy was just in and I asked him my question about updating
to 10 from 7.

He initially said he saw no good reason not to do so, but then had a
quick look to see what chip is in this computer.

It is an i7 860 which he says is a 1st generation chip and says he has
encountered problems with running 10 on i5 machines of the 1st generation.

He believes there is a fault in the chip and thus no way to fix it.

He recommended that I not change from 7.

Anyone else run into this scenario?

RB


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[MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

2016-12-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
My computer guy was just in and I asked him my question about updating 
to 10 from 7.


He initially said he saw no good reason not to do so, but then had a 
quick look to see what chip is in this computer.


It is an i7 860 which he says is a 1st generation chip and says he has 
encountered problems with running 10 on i5 machines of the 1st generation.


He believes there is a fault in the chip and thus no way to fix it.

He recommended that I not change from 7.

Anyone else run into this scenario?

RB


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