[MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge

2006-03-14 Thread Tom Scordato
Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D.  System is R12.  Got my 609 
certification.  I assume with a broken line all freon is out.


Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. 
I assume I have to add mineral oil  4 oz? (how do you get that in).  I read 
that I may need 2.9lbs.  I can get the R-12 anything else I should know 
special equipment.  No way I am going to convert to other refrigerant if I 
can help it.  Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? 
What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else.   New 
ground for me.


Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated

Regards Tom Scordato











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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon



Rcvd 12  12 oz. cans R-12 Freon today.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge

2006-03-14 Thread Jim Cathey

Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D.  System is R12.  Got my 609
certification.  I assume with a broken line all freon is out.


Oh yeah!

Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with 
R-12.


Any FLAPS book on automotive AC will tell you enough.


I assume I have to add mineral oil  4 oz? (how do you get that in).


If you need to add some, and you only do if you think you've lost
any, you can just pour it into an open hose.


I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment.


I absolutely don't think anybody should touch their AC system
unless they have a set of service gauges and a vacuum pump suitable
for drying.


Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system?


Did it get dirty?  How long was it open to the atmosphere?
You'll need a new receiver/drier, as its desiccant has probably
saturated by now.  But I don't know that any 'cleaning' will
be necessary.  It depends.  Usually not.


What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else.


Cans are fine.  Just do it right.  See book!


Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated


There's mine:  http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge

2006-03-14 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
For ac specific things the forum at www.aircondition.com is mighty 
handy, as well as the free AC advisor program that  you can download 
from their site that you can use to calculate system pressure at a given 
ambient temp.


Don't add  the full system amount of oil unless you empty all the oil 
out of the system , or youll have too much in there.
If the hose was in a low spot, you may need a littl, if it was high, 
shouldn't need any. ( if you put too much oil in, your system will have 
to run a higher pressure than normal to cool ) If adding for the heck of 
it, don't put more than an oz in it.If you want to know fr sure, dump 
out the compressor and the drier and blow out the condensor and 
evapurator, and then add teh factory oil amount  ( If you want, you 
could flush it at this time )
Get a new drier.( add the apropriate oil for the drier, there should be 
a spec around somewhere for how much oil settles in each componant , or 
as said, if you flush the system, you can add the full amount)


Might not be a bad idea to replace all the orings while you're at it.
Then vacuum out the system, Close the gauges ant turn off vac pump, and 
watch. it should hold vacuum for 15 minuits, I like to see them hold for 
1/2 hour or longer.
Then vac for an hour or so and fill it up. ( use the ac advisor program 
to get the appropriate high side reading )


Put on a jacket and drive :-)

--Robert
Tom Scordato wrote:
Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D.  System is R12.  Got my 609 
certification.  I assume with a broken line all freon is out.


Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. 
I assume I have to add mineral oil  4 oz? (how do you get that in).  I read 
that I may need 2.9lbs.  I can get the R-12 anything else I should know 
special equipment.  No way I am going to convert to other refrigerant if I 
can help it.  Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? 
What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else.   New 
ground for me.


Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated

Regards Tom Scordato











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From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon


  

Rcvd 12  12 oz. cans R-12 Freon today.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge

2006-03-14 Thread Tom Scordato

thanks Jim
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge



Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D.  System is R12.  Got my 609
certification.  I assume with a broken line all freon is out.


Oh yeah!

Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with 
R-12.


Any FLAPS book on automotive AC will tell you enough.


I assume I have to add mineral oil  4 oz? (how do you get that in).


If you need to add some, and you only do if you think you've lost
any, you can just pour it into an open hose.


I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment.


I absolutely don't think anybody should touch their AC system
unless they have a set of service gauges and a vacuum pump suitable
for drying.


Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system?


Did it get dirty?  How long was it open to the atmosphere?
You'll need a new receiver/drier, as its desiccant has probably
saturated by now.  But I don't know that any 'cleaning' will
be necessary.  It depends.  Usually not.


What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else.


Cans are fine.  Just do it right.  See book!


Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated


There's mine:  http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html

-- Jim


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