[MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive. Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E. I replaced the headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was unsure of the success without doing so. I removed the entire headliner cast plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car. Bought headliner material for about $50 online. Close in texture and color, and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield). It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff correctly. Hth, -Howard On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Thanks Howard, if you remember which adhesive I'd like to know. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Howard Ginsberg mbkindof...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:52:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive. Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E. I replaced the headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was unsure of the success without doing so. I removed the entire headliner cast plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car. Bought headliner material for about $50 online. Close in texture and color, and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield). It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff correctly. Hth, -Howard On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Looking at the 3M website, I see 77, 90, and 8088. Product data sheet for 8088 specifically mentions use for installing headliners. Anybody try the 8088? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:18:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle. The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while the 8090 is not. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Thanks Dan, now I just need to find the time! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options 8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle. The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while the 8090 is not. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
