Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
The closest Lowes to me did not have it. Their selection of Kobalt tools has gradually been shrinking UNLESS you want to purchase the huges sets in carrying cases. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Robert Massmann Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project,progress report Have you tried Lowes. I think I got my hex socket set from them. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 45054 1995 E300D 281K 1985 300CD 328K 1982 300D 250K 1981 Rabbit Truck 200K - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project,progress report I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Called the local Sears, and they said they don't stock it. Visited HF this p.m. and picked up a 9 pc set for 12.99 that has smaller sizes plus 12, 14 17mm. Also picked up the fuel injection pressure tester I need for my wife's car, also 12.99. However, her Infiniti has developed a new problem - the starter seems to be going out. Most starts it works fine, but occasionally it really turns over too slowly like the battery is going dead. Already had the old battery tested and it was very weak so a new battery was installed last month. - Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report Max wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. I don't think anything at Harbor is USA - but I don't see Harbor anywhere. Doesn't sears have that tool? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
None of the local hardware stores and auto parts stores had them, except Harbor Freight. I didn't drive all the way to Sears which is about 45 minutes each way, but I called and the clerk put me on hold while he looked then came back and said they didn't stock that size. Of course he may have missed it, next time I'm up that way maybe I'll take a gander. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report Max Dillon wrote: Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. Autozone doesn't have a 3pc 1/2 drive set for about $10? That's where I got mine (7 1/2 years ago). I think it's 12mm, 14mm, and 17mm. Wasn't Curt looking for one in the last year or two? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Is 12mm the size that takes the drain plug out of the diff? I got the 3 piece set at AZ, like you said around $10. The one I had a harder time with was a torx bit big enough to take the bed bolts off the Ranger. I got that at Stuff and Things which is a local purveyor of HF style Chinese cheap tools. I cheaped out there and got the 3/8 drive which fortunately held up under the barrage of my 24v cordless impact gun (with adapter) and a breaker bar with a 36 cheater... -Curt Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:08:33 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report Message-ID: 4b400a31.9070...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Max Dillon wrote: Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. Autozone doesn't have a 3pc 1/2 drive set for about $10? That's where I got mine (7 1/2 years ago). I think it's 12mm, 14mm, and 17mm. Wasn't Curt looking for one in the last year or two? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
the diff is a 14mm Curt Raymond wrote: Is 12mm the size that takes the drain plug out of the diff? I got the 3 piece set at AZ, like you said around $10. The one I had a harder time with was a torx bit big enough to take the bed bolts off the Ranger. I got that at Stuff and Things which is a local purveyor of HF style Chinese cheap tools. I cheaped out there and got the 3/8 drive which fortunately held up under the barrage of my 24v cordless impact gun (with adapter) and a breaker bar with a 36 cheater... -Curt Da -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Have you tried Lowes. I think I got my hex socket set from them. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 45054 1995 E300D 281K 1985 300CD 328K 1982 300D 250K 1981 Rabbit Truck 200K - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project,progress report I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:01:57 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. http://www.tools-plus.com/eklind-15524.html Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 254 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
My advice is that if you are working on MB cars you need an Allen/torx key set. I recently purchased a set like this for AU$300 to put in my work truck. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-quality-socket-set-for-professionals-from-Germany_W0QQitemZ270507214914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Hand_Tools?hash=item3efb7c8842 BGS technic are a German based tool distributor http://www.bgstechnic.de/index.php?lang=en that have been in business for quite some time. They offer a large range of tools (including some we are very familiar with) in several grades, from home handyman to pro+. That set comes under the pro+ line and I am very impressed with them. How much would a set like that cost if it was snap on? 1000's? I do believe the tools are made in Asia somewhere but you would not know from the feel and fit of them. That set has a super lock feature on the sockets which means they grip the sides rather than the edges of nuts and bolts. On page 8 is a description http://download.bgstechnic.com/catalog_en.pdf Hendrik who likes good tools at a good price Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Max wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. I don't think anything at Harbor is USA - but I don't see Harbor anywhere. Doesn't sears have that tool? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Yes, I bought mine set at Sears. I've also been known to cut off the long end of an appropriately sized Allen wrench, and use it with the same sized socket. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Max wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. I don't think anything at Harbor is USA - but I don't see Harbor anywhere. Doesn't sears have that tool? mao -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. It's way across town, and I often forget about them when I'm looking for tools. I was time-limited today, as I had to drive my wife's car and she also had places to go and people to see, so I'll use that as my excuse for now to justify a future trip. I still need to pick up a fuel pressure gauge set for my wife's car. Need to get this second Benz up and running so I can spend more time at HF -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Buy a half inch drive set, Sears will have one. Snap-On will too, but they are much more expensive. I don't know of a 3/8 drive set that goes that big. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Thanks Craig, if HF doesn't have a suitable tool I may go this route. Allen wrenches are good for taking them apart, but putting together to a particular torque value requires a socket that'll fit my 1/2 inch torque wrench. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:01:57 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. http://www.tools-plus.com/eklind-15524.html Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 254 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Nice tools are fantastic to have, and I go that route for tools that I use very frequently. This tool, on the other hand, will maybe only be used once or twice more in my garage, so I can't justify spending too much $ on it. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report My advice is that if you are working on MB cars you need an Allen/torx key set. I recently purchased a set like this for AU$300 to put in my work truck. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-quality-socket-set-for-professionals-from-German y_W0QQitemZ270507214914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Hand_Tools?hash=item3efb7c8842 BGS technic are a German based tool distributor http://www.bgstechnic.de/index.php?lang=en that have been in business for quite some time. They offer a large range of tools (including some we are very familiar with) in several grades, from home handyman to pro+. That set comes under the pro+ line and I am very impressed with them. How much would a set like that cost if it was snap on? 1000's? I do believe the tools are made in Asia somewhere but you would not know from the feel and fit of them. That set has a super lock feature on the sockets which means they grip the sides rather than the edges of nuts and bolts. On page 8 is a description http://download.bgstechnic.com/catalog_en.pdf Hendrik who likes good tools at a good price Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Max Dillon wrote: Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. Autozone doesn't have a 3pc 1/2 drive set for about $10? That's where I got mine (7 1/2 years ago). I think it's 12mm, 14mm, and 17mm. Wasn't Curt looking for one in the last year or two? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
