Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Dieselhead
Does it have a block heater? if so, plug it in for a hour or two, then crank it with no glow. It SHOULD start. Did you bleed the air out of the injector lines? If you crack a line at the injector, so you get fuel spurts? IF the GP wires short together it probably sets up some kind of error

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Craig
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:00:43 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > bottom line I am going to have to do something with that harness. > If I rebuild it myself, what guage wire should I use? At least 12 gauge, but it's probably overkill to go with 10 gauge (which might not even fit in the terminals

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread LWB250
Kaleb C. Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140SD update > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 10:33 AM > Maybe the battery is bad.  > Crap. > > On 12/25/2010 11:16 PM, OK Don wrote: > > I'm betting that the battery doesn't hav

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Actually when i checked it the resistance was just fine, I did not see anything out of the ordinary there. The only other wires in the strand are the 2 that go to the sensor in the head. Maybe its shorting out there. On 12/26/2010 9:41 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: If the voltage drops way down

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
bottom line I am going to have to do something with that harness. If I rebuild it myself, what guage wire should I use? On 12/26/2010 9:58 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: the wires just go to the plugs does it matter if they touch each other? The relay senses differential current in the wires, and if

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Jim Cathey
the wires just go to the plugs does it matter if they touch each other? The relay senses differential current in the wires, and if it doesn't like what it sees it does the 'your glow plugs suck' thing with the GP light. If they're all shorted together the relay is not going to like that. -- Ji

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Peter Frederick
If the voltage drops way down when the relay engages, the battery won't produce current. It if cranks, this likely is not a problem (way more juice needed to spin the engine than run the GP). You can pop the cover off the connector and solder new wires to the pins for the glow plugs, this

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe the battery is bad. Crap. On 12/25/2010 11:16 PM, OK Don wrote: I'm betting that the battery doesn't have the amps -- but still has the volts. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinwrote: thats what I th ought but I just wanted to make sure. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well I think the problem is the gp wiring harness is bad. On the relay end the insulation has fallen off all the wires so its like one big mass of wires going to the plugs instead of 6 individual plugs. This harness also houses 2 wires that go to a sensor but it appears to be in a separate wr

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread OK Don
I'm betting that the battery doesn't have the amps -- but still has the volts. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > thats what I th ought but I just wanted to make sure. > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:19:21 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > thats what I th ought but I just wanted to make sure. Good idea to be sure. A set of six plugs, no doubt, is expensive. Craig > > On 12/25/2010 6:17 PM, Craig wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:54 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > >

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats what I th ought but I just wanted to make sure. On 12/25/2010 6:17 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:54 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: speaking of this, can I take battery power and apply it directly to the connectors for the glow plugs? I dont want to burn them out. Yes,

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:54 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > speaking of this, can I take battery power and apply it directly > to the connectors for the glow plugs? I dont want to burn them out. Yes, they run on 12 V just like everything else. > > On 12/25/2010 6:03 PM, Craig wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
speaking of this, can I take battery power and apply it directly to the connectors for the glow plugs? I dont want to burn them out. On 12/25/2010 6:03 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:48:12 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Engine shows no signs of wanting to start. First thing I g

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im going to try the manual route for now just to see if I can get it started. The relay is different from the older style. I think the main difference is the newer has the afterglow function. On 12/25/2010 6:03 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:48:12 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:48:12 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Engine shows no signs of wanting to start. First thing I got to do is > line the glow plug deal out. EPC says its the same relay as off a 126 > 350, which I have. I will either pull that relay and swap them, or I > wonder if I ca

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well been slow charging the battery all night and most of the day today. Im hoping the battery ends up being good and not toasted from sitting dead for so long. The engine cranks over fine, I think I finally got the filter filled up. Problem is I have no glow plug light at all. This was not

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread OK Don
HAHAHAHAHA - oops, wrong season - HOHOHOHOHO On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Oh, I usually buy them pre fixed > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh, I usually buy them pre fixed On 12/24/2010 6:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, 87 300D. You still wanting to sell that ex morrison car? Yeah, but I probably oughta fix the IP and maybe hang a new fender on it first. ___ http://w

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, 87 300D. You still wanting to sell that ex morrison car? Yeah, but I probably oughta fix the IP and maybe hang a new fender on it first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list a

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, 87 300D. You still wanting to sell that ex morrison car? On 12/24/2010 10:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, I did all that while it was still out of the car after I got the head back on. Next project is going to either be the 92 350SDL (possibly needs head pulled) o

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, I did all that while it was still out of the car after I got the head back on. Next project is going to either be the 92 350SDL (possibly needs head pulled) or pull the OK don 300D in the garage and pull the pump and try a different pump on it. I noticed the pump

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, I did all that while it was still out of the car after I got the head back on. Next project is going to either be the 92 350SDL (possibly needs head pulled) or pull the OK don 300D in the garage and pull the pump and try a different pump on it. I noticed the pump on it now had a good siz

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Dieselhead
What Craig said, plus it is easy to watch the cam action/position while you watch for #1 delivery valve to begin delivery. For years, I used this method as a way to check injection timing by clearing fuel in the tapered top of the DV, so the fuel was visible in the small straight tube of the D

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-24 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
In the voice of a lab mouse: "To take over the world!" Best of luck Kaleb, may it spin like a top, and purr like a german kitten. Walt On Dec 23, 2010 11:19 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:09:23 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> Once that is done, I will see if she starts. She

Re: [MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-23 Thread Craig
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:09:23 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Once that is done, I will see if she starts. She should unless I got > the cam installed 180 degrees off. Have you tried rotating it by hand to see if there is any interference? > In other words, I hope to attempt startup tomorro

[MBZ] 140SD update

2010-12-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I resumed working buttoning up the engine install in the 140 today. It look quite a while to hunt for some of the bolts but I finally found them and everything under the car is hooked back up. All I like is hooking exhaust back up, installed fuel return lines, hooking up coolant hoses and fig