Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-18 Thread Jim Cathey

Ok, here is what I know, both rear windows have an issue, one works
but slips in track. Owner says it's a plastic retention guide? Rear


There's a plastic glide that breaks.  Not too hard to repair, but
it's best if you take out the window regulator and rivet on a new
one.


Not bad, on surface, but may be worse under trim. Oddly there is *no*
rust in fender wells. Thought these were bad for "hidden" rust??


126 is pretty good for avoiding rust, as MB's go.


trim pieces look a little weird. The Owner has been in the doors,
trying to fix the windows I guess, so he might not have them back on
correctly, but they look almost like they are sagging or something,
not sure.


I find 126 door panels incredibly hard to put back correctly.  Also,
often the plastic mounting fingers along the top get broken off by
poor removal techniques.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-18 Thread Ed Booher
Ok, here is what I know, both rear windows have an issue, one works
but slips in track. Owner says it's a plastic retention guide? Rear
passenger window motor is out, and the glass rattles just a little
bit, so it may have quite a problem in it. There is some small rust
starting where the trim panels attach to the door, as if water and
salt has sat on that edge and not completely washed off, and eaten in.
Not bad, on surface, but may be worse under trim. Oddly there is *no*
rust in fender wells. Thought these were bad for "hidden" rust??
Should I be looking somewhere specific. No rust on chassis, underbody
either. It *looks* solid to me without taking it to a body shop with
someone that knows how to poke at the metal to see if it's full of
bondo  oh yeah, paints looks tired but good. Still got some shine
to it, no major scars.

Interior needs a little bit of loving. The seats all look good, none
show the 200K+ worth of use, even the drivers isn't cracked just 
comfortable glove look if that makes any sense at all. But some of the
trim pieces look a little weird. The Owner has been in the doors,
trying to fix the windows I guess, so he might not have them back on
correctly, but they look almost like they are sagging or something,
not sure.

Vacuum system seems to work, doors and trunk lock and unlock with key.
Though I think the driver rear door needs a new exterior handle. Both
times he tried to open the door he reached inside, and when I pulled
the outside handle it felt locked ... that point where it stops when
you know it should pull further. It opened, just not from outside.
Though he says his kids can get it opened just fine, so maybe it's not
connected right from him trying to realign the window?

Now for the expensive. There is a tap in the engine that the Owner
says he is sure is a lifter / valve. Sunroof doesn't open as it
should, but closes right away, thinking contacts on switch might be
bad? Think it needs some suspension work, I'm not familiar with MB, so
not sure if the float is the way the float is supposed to be, or if
the float is due to bad suspension.

Oh yeah, no rust in trunk pan and full sized, matched rim spare. (Ergo
hasn't been sold and replaced with donut or something, I guess.) Drove
it out and it seemed to want to move well, placed foot to floor a
couple times and she got up and out of her own way, so to speak. But
the tapping changed pitch each time.

Owner wants $1300

Any more pointers?  Thanks in advance,

On 4/17/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What can you, the good listers, tell me about a non-diesel V8 with
> 200K on the clock?
>
> How much screaming will I do at this model?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

84 has the dual chain, 81-83 does not.

Desert Rat wrote:


First thing I would look for is to be sure it has the dual timing
chain in place and when was the last time they were changed out.

Now I know the 85 models had the dual setup from the factory but am
not sure that all 84 MY 380's had this important improvement.

On 4/17/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What can you, the good listers, tell me about a non-diesel V8 with
200K on the clock?

How much screaming will I do at this model?

Thanks,

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Desert Rat wrote:

First thing I would look for is to be sure it has the dual timing
chain in place and when was the last time they were changed out.

Now I know the 85 models had the dual setup from the factory but am
not sure that all 84 MY 380's had this important improvement.


It's my understanding that US delivered '81-'83 380SD/SL had single row 
chains (Euro engines had duel chains). '84-'85 380s had duel chains.


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Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-17 Thread Peter Frederick
WATCH THE TIMING CHAIN if it's not had the dual chain retrofit.  The 
single chain wears really fast, and a valve job is expensive.


Otherwise it's a nice M116 engined W126 -- a bit short on power, but 
otherwise very nice.


You shouldn't have any real problems IF the engine has been maintained 
properly, although you are approaching cam/valve job age on that 
engine, and if the heads have not been off, you will likely have to 
send the block out and get steel inserts put in when the head bolts 
pull the aluminum out -- very common problem with the early aluminum 
blocks.  Expensive, too.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-17 Thread Desert Rat
First thing I would look for is to be sure it has the dual timing
chain in place and when was the last time they were changed out.

Now I know the 85 models had the dual setup from the factory but am
not sure that all 84 MY 380's had this important improvement.

On 4/17/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What can you, the good listers, tell me about a non-diesel V8 with
> 200K on the clock?
>
> How much screaming will I do at this model?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
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[MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

2006-04-17 Thread Ed Booher
What can you, the good listers, tell me about a non-diesel V8 with
200K on the clock?

How much screaming will I do at this model?

Thanks,

Ed

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