Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
The only thing I wish my E320 had was the memory seats. That was more of an issue back when my wife used to drive it than it is now, though. Funny that ever since the evaporator sprung a leak and the A/C quit, she hasn't been interested in it :^) Gary Thompson 1995 E320 (equipped with not so rare exploding evaporator option) On 3/25/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had fewer > items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. They > were more stripped down. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
The older cars may have more options, but they are older, and older things tend to break more often than newer things in general. Headlight washers are great, not so much for dirt, but work wonderful if you live where they heavily salt the roads. Mind you, I'd trade headlight washers and memory seats for more or less the same car, 10 years newer, and with lower miles, especially if you plan to keep it awhile. If cared for, the gassers will go a long time with little more than regular servicing. Good luck, I'm sure you'll enjoy the wagon if you get it. Ed 300E On 26/03/2008, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kaleb wrote: > > "The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had > fewer items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. > They were more stripped down." > > I guess it is a matter of terminology. You are referring to standard > features, I talked about options. Here is what I mean without using the > ambiguous terms. The 94-95 E320's that I have seen have had more features > on them, then the earlier 300E's that I have seen for sale. The headlight > wipers don't do much for me, so I don't consider that a loss. Perhaps, I > have just been looking at cheap 300E's. > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Kaleb wrote: "The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had fewer items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. They were more stripped down." I guess it is a matter of terminology. You are referring to standard features, I talked about options. Here is what I mean without using the ambiguous terms. The 94-95 E320's that I have seen have had more features on them, then the earlier 300E's that I have seen for sale. The headlight wipers don't do much for me, so I don't consider that a loss. Perhaps, I have just been looking at cheap 300E's. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Off the top of my head, they didnt have headlight wipers like the earlier ones, didnt have telescoping steering, didnt have seat memory. Was available extra though. Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Interesting, I didn't know that. I thought only the 260E/300E 2.6/2.8 was > stripped in that way. > > What options don't the E320s tend to have that 300Es did? > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had fewer >> items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. They >> were more stripped down. >> >> Donald Snook wrote: >>> Gary wrote: >>> >>> "1) these are way too cheap right now. I've seen fairly clean sedans >> with that kind of mileage for well under $5000. Don't see many wagons, so >> it's hard to tell if they're selling at any kind of premium." >>> I don't know if the wagons have a premium attached to them or not. I >> think the book value is higher on the wagons - perhaps it is just because >> there aren't very many of them around. >>> He is asking $7995 - I think that is too high and I think the fact that >> no one has looked at it indicates there is not much market for it right now. >> I think if I could get it for $5000, I would be stealing it considering all >> of the work he has done on it. Maybe that is what I will shoot for. >>> I drove it today and it drives great. I have never driven a 124 Wagon. >> It is surprisingly nimble. It is a nice car. I have just have to convince >> myself that I am not too young to drive a wagon and I have to do something >> with the Explorer. >>> If it was a sedan and in such good condition, I probably would have >> bought it by now. I really like the 94-95 E320 sedans. I think they were >> the best looking and best optioned of the 6 cylinder 124 cars (the 124 500E >> makes me drool, but I am not getting one of those - I don't want to spend >> the money on the gas or the speeding tickets). >>> Donald H. Snook >>> >>> http://www.mtsqh.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, >> 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, >> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, >> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Interesting, I didn't know that. I thought only the 260E/300E 2.6/2.8 was stripped in that way. What options don't the E320s tend to have that 300Es did? On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had fewer > items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. They > were more stripped down. > > Donald Snook wrote: > > Gary wrote: > > > > "1) these are way too cheap right now. I've seen fairly clean sedans > with that kind of mileage for well under $5000. Don't see many wagons, so > it's hard to tell if they're selling at any kind of premium." > > > > I don't know if the wagons have a premium attached to them or not. I > think the book value is higher on the wagons - perhaps it is just because > there aren't very many of them around. > > > > He is asking $7995 - I think that is too high and I think the fact that > no one has looked at it indicates there is not much market for it right now. > I think if I could get it for $5000, I would be stealing it considering all > of the work he has done on it. Maybe that is what I will shoot for. > > > > I drove it today and it drives great. I have never driven a 124 Wagon. > It is surprisingly nimble. It is a nice car. I have just have to convince > myself that I am not too young to drive a wagon and I have to do something > with the Explorer. > > > > If it was a sedan and in such good condition, I probably would have > bought it by now. I really like the 94-95 E320 sedans. I think they were > the best looking and best optioned of the 6 cylinder 124 cars (the 124 500E > makes me drool, but I am not getting one of those - I don't want to spend > the money on the gas or the speeding tickets). > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
The 94-95 6 cylinders were the best optioned? Actually, they had fewer items that were standard on those than the earlier 300E's had. They were more stripped down. Donald Snook wrote: > Gary wrote: > > "1) these are way too cheap right now. I've seen fairly clean sedans with > that kind of mileage for well under $5000. Don't see many wagons, so it's > hard to tell if they're selling at any kind of premium." > > I don't know if the wagons have a premium attached to them or not. I think > the book value is higher on the wagons - perhaps it is just because there > aren't very many of them around. > > He is asking $7995 - I think that is too high and I think the fact that no > one has looked at it indicates there is not much market for it right now. I > think if I could get it for $5000, I would be stealing it considering all of > the work he has done on it. Maybe that is what I will shoot for. > > I drove it today and it drives great. I have never driven a 124 Wagon. It > is surprisingly nimble. It is a nice car. I have just have to convince > myself that I am not too young to drive a wagon and I have to do something > with the Explorer. > > If it was a sedan and in such good condition, I probably would have bought it > by now. I really like the 94-95 E320 sedans. I think they were the best > looking and best optioned of the 6 cylinder 124 cars (the 124 500E makes me > drool, but I am not getting one of those - I don't want to spend the money on > the gas or the speeding tickets). > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Gary wrote: "1) these are way too cheap right now. I've seen fairly clean sedans with that kind of mileage for well under $5000. Don't see many wagons, so it's hard to tell if they're selling at any kind of premium." I don't know if the wagons have a premium attached to them or not. I think the book value is higher on the wagons - perhaps it is just because there aren't very many of them around. He is asking $7995 - I think that is too high and I think the fact that no one has looked at it indicates there is not much market for it right now. I think if I could get it for $5000, I would be stealing it considering all of the work he has done on it. Maybe that is what I will shoot for. I drove it today and it drives great. I have never driven a 124 Wagon. It is surprisingly nimble. It is a nice car. I have just have to convince myself that I am not too young to drive a wagon and I have to do something with the Explorer. If it was a sedan and in such good condition, I probably would have bought it by now. I really like the 94-95 E320 sedans. I think they were the best looking and best optioned of the 6 cylinder 124 cars (the 124 500E makes me drool, but I am not getting one of those - I don't want to spend the money on the gas or the speeding tickets). Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Mitch Haley wrote: "So sell the Expedition, it uses more fuel than the Explorer anyways" I think the Explorer can sold more easily because it is significantly cheaper than the Expedition. My wife does not want another car unless she gets the Expedition. So, no go on selling it. I don't like having two gas gazzling SUV's (not because of green concerns - but because gas is so stinking expensive). Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
1) these are way too cheap right now. I've seen fairly clean sedans with that kind of mileage for well under $5000. Don't see many wagons, so it's hard to tell if they're selling at any kind of premium. 2) Wiring harness issues started with the introduction of the M104 engine in 1993 and continued on through 1995. 3) wiring harness, evaporator, head gasket oil leak above rear exhaust manifold, EGR tube blockage that causes CEL. That's pretty much it. 4) I regularly see 23-24MPG for 70% highway driving. I could easily see getting 26 for a full tank at 70MPH. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 now @ 148K miles On 3/24/08, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have asked a few things about this car before, but now I am getting serious > about it. > > My Indy (Autohaus Stuttgart) here in Wichita has a 1994 E320 Wagon for sale. > He has had it for about 4 years. He drove it for 3 years and has had it for > sale (on and off) for the last 9-12 months. It has 139,000 miles on it. It > is white with blue MB tex interior. It has the third seat. He previously > replaced the evaporator core and has put a ton of work into it. It has Euro > headlights, AMG brakes (rotors, pads, and even calipers). It is in VERY nice > shape. He said NO ONE has looked at it. He probably has 10-12 cars for sale > at a time, but the wagon is the only one he has had for this long. I think > he is ready to make a deal. So, here are my questions: > > > 1. What is a typical price for these cars? > 2. I think the wiring harness problem started in 95, is that correct? > 3. What other problem areas are for these cars? > 4. The (revised) EPA guide on fuel mileage says 16 in town, 22 on the > highway. Does that sound about right? > > He told me he took the car to Texas and got 28 mpg and that it would > routinely 25 on the highway, that sounds pretty high to me. Does anyone have > one of these. > > P.S. I may be selling my wife's 1997 Ford Explorer if someone needs a > reliable SUV. It is 4X4, very nice shape, towing package, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
If you're driving an explorer and an expedition, why are you worrying about the fuel consumption of a 6 cylinder car? Fill the wagon up with premium, drive it like you stole it and you're still going to be better off than with what you currently drive. Ed 300E On 25/03/2008, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK Don wrote: "Just pay the man and drive it home. You're due for a decent > car about now" > > At this point it is a matter of convincing my wife we should sell her > explorer. She loves it - but also likes my expedition. > > We don't need two SUVs and a wagon, so I won't do anything until after I > sell the Explorer. > > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
I typically get 24MPG in my sedan for 70/30 highway/city driving. I can see getting up to 26MPG for a full tank at 70MPH. Kinda made the case to give up the W123 diesel that only got 24-25MPG while diesel was 30-40 cents more per gallon than super. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 3/24/08, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don: > > My brother-in-law had that exact car and also claimed to get up to 28 > on the highway, 25 more typically. > > Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
So sell the Expedition, it uses more fuel than the Explorer anyways. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
OK Don wrote: "Just pay the man and drive it home. You're due for a decent car about now" At this point it is a matter of convincing my wife we should sell her explorer. She loves it - but also likes my expedition. We don't need two SUVs and a wagon, so I won't do anything until after I sell the Explorer. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Andrew S. wrote: "Did I miss something - is it diesel or gas?" It is gas. I don't think a diesel wagon was made in 94 (at least in the US). Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Just pay the man and drive it home. You're due for a decent car about now - On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have asked a few things about this car before, but now I am getting serious > about it. > > My Indy (Autohaus Stuttgart) here in Wichita has a 1994 E320 Wagon for sale. > He has had it for about 4 years. He drove it for 3 years and has had it for > sale (on and off) for the last 9-12 months. It has 139,000 miles on it. It > is white with blue MB tex interior. It has the third seat. He previously > replaced the evaporator core and has put a ton of work into it. It has Euro > headlights, AMG brakes (rotors, pads, and even calipers). It is in VERY nice > shape. He said NO ONE has looked at it. He probably has 10-12 cars for sale > at a time, but the wagon is the only one he has had for this long. I think > he is ready to make a deal. So, here are my questions: > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions (Donald Snook)
Not so sure about the wiring harness dates. I have two 124 - E300D's that are both nominal '95 model year. But the manufacturing dates on the door plates say March and July of 1994 respectively. Maybe the dates of concern are different for the E320 gas versions. YMMV Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
John Robbins wrote: > I'm not convinced that a gas E320 can get mileage as good/better than > the diesel version of the wagon. Fueleconomy.gov agrees... A S124 300TD should get better than 25mpg hwy, so I don't see how the E320 is claimed to get as good/better than the diesel. On a trip like the 28mpg Texas trip mentioned earlier, the diesel would probably get 30-34, would it not? The numbers you see on fueleconomy.gov have been fooled with and are now useless for older cars. (they didn't retest the old cars with the new standards, they just fudged the numbers from the contemporary tests) The window sticker MPG for that E320 was 18/24, and I've never owned a car that couldn't match or beat its EPA highway rating in my normal local driving, and beat the hwy rating by a clear margin on long trips. Unfortunately, I don't believe the 1987 ratings are comparable to the 1995 ratings, so there really isn't an EPA rating comparison for the 300TD and E320T, or whatever they called the 1995 wagon. If we accept the current EPA guess, it's 16/22 for the gasser and 21/25 for the diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: > If you like the car, you'll soon forget about the mileage. ;-) Looking back on my life, the cars I liked were the ones that got the better MPG. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: > Did I miss something - is it diesel or gas? I'm not convinced that a gas E320 can get mileage as good/better than the diesel version of the wagon. Fueleconomy.gov agrees... http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008car1tablef.jsp?id=11139 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Did I miss something - is it diesel or gas? On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:00 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked at a few with higher mileage, asking anywhere from $4-7000. If > it's as clean as it sounds, and well sorted and with those miles, it would > be worth paying a little more, than wasting your time trying to find > another > similar one. EPA sounds about right. Again, they are great cars, costing > a > fraction of what they did new, so if you find a good one for fair money, I > wouldn't worry too much about pumping a little extra money through the gas > tank. How much do you drive a year, or plan to? I find the only time you > really notice when you're paying more for gas, is when you're driving > something you don't really like. If you like the car, you'll soon forget > about the mileage. ;-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 24/03/2008, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have asked a few things about this car before, but now I am getting > > serious about it. > > > > My Indy (Autohaus Stuttgart) here in Wichita has a 1994 E320 Wagon for > > sale. He has had it for about 4 years. He drove it for 3 years and has > had > > it for sale (on and off) for the last 9-12 months. It has 139,000 miles > on > > it. It is white with blue MB tex interior. It has the third seat. He > > previously replaced the evaporator core and has put a ton of work into > > it. It has Euro headlights, AMG brakes (rotors, pads, and even > > calipers). It is in VERY nice shape. He said NO ONE has looked at it. > He > > probably has 10-12 cars for sale at a time, but the wagon is the only > one he > > has had for this long. I think he is ready to make a deal. So, here > are my > > questions: > > > > > > 1. What is a typical price for these cars? > > 2. I think the wiring harness problem started in 95, is that correct? > > 3. What other problem areas are for these cars? > > 4. The (revised) EPA guide on fuel mileage says 16 in town, 22 on the > > highway. Does that sound about right? > > > > He told me he took the car to Texas and got 28 mpg and that it would > > routinely 25 on the highway, that sounds pretty high to me. Does anyone > > have one of these. > > > > P.S. I may be selling my wife's 1997 Ford Explorer if someone needs a > > reliable SUV. It is 4X4, very nice shape, towing package, etc. > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
I looked at a few with higher mileage, asking anywhere from $4-7000. If it's as clean as it sounds, and well sorted and with those miles, it would be worth paying a little more, than wasting your time trying to find another similar one. EPA sounds about right. Again, they are great cars, costing a fraction of what they did new, so if you find a good one for fair money, I wouldn't worry too much about pumping a little extra money through the gas tank. How much do you drive a year, or plan to? I find the only time you really notice when you're paying more for gas, is when you're driving something you don't really like. If you like the car, you'll soon forget about the mileage. ;-) Ed 300E On 24/03/2008, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have asked a few things about this car before, but now I am getting > serious about it. > > My Indy (Autohaus Stuttgart) here in Wichita has a 1994 E320 Wagon for > sale. He has had it for about 4 years. He drove it for 3 years and has had > it for sale (on and off) for the last 9-12 months. It has 139,000 miles on > it. It is white with blue MB tex interior. It has the third seat. He > previously replaced the evaporator core and has put a ton of work into > it. It has Euro headlights, AMG brakes (rotors, pads, and even > calipers). It is in VERY nice shape. He said NO ONE has looked at it. He > probably has 10-12 cars for sale at a time, but the wagon is the only one he > has had for this long. I think he is ready to make a deal. So, here are my > questions: > > > 1. What is a typical price for these cars? > 2. I think the wiring harness problem started in 95, is that correct? > 3. What other problem areas are for these cars? > 4. The (revised) EPA guide on fuel mileage says 16 in town, 22 on the > highway. Does that sound about right? > > He told me he took the car to Texas and got 28 mpg and that it would > routinely 25 on the highway, that sounds pretty high to me. Does anyone > have one of these. > > P.S. I may be selling my wife's 1997 Ford Explorer if someone needs a > reliable SUV. It is 4X4, very nice shape, towing package, etc. > > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Don: My brother-in-law had that exact car and also claimed to get up to 28 on the highway, 25 more typically. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
I have asked a few things about this car before, but now I am getting serious about it. My Indy (Autohaus Stuttgart) here in Wichita has a 1994 E320 Wagon for sale. He has had it for about 4 years. He drove it for 3 years and has had it for sale (on and off) for the last 9-12 months. It has 139,000 miles on it. It is white with blue MB tex interior. It has the third seat. He previously replaced the evaporator core and has put a ton of work into it. It has Euro headlights, AMG brakes (rotors, pads, and even calipers). It is in VERY nice shape. He said NO ONE has looked at it. He probably has 10-12 cars for sale at a time, but the wagon is the only one he has had for this long. I think he is ready to make a deal. So, here are my questions: 1. What is a typical price for these cars? 2. I think the wiring harness problem started in 95, is that correct? 3. What other problem areas are for these cars? 4. The (revised) EPA guide on fuel mileage says 16 in town, 22 on the highway. Does that sound about right? He told me he took the car to Texas and got 28 mpg and that it would routinely 25 on the highway, that sounds pretty high to me. Does anyone have one of these. P.S. I may be selling my wife's 1997 Ford Explorer if someone needs a reliable SUV. It is 4X4, very nice shape, towing package, etc. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Well unless you live in Canada and want a 92 or earlier w124 diesel from Europe or Japan (where most benz except the G-wagons seem to be left hand drive). Pricing runs 9 to 12K Canadian FOB Japan, you'll need to figure out how much that is in worthless greenbacks tho. On Nov 7, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > 87 was the only year for a diesel 124 wagon > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor= ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh yea, its a blast! --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions > That's useful information. In that case maybe it's worth fixing the > rust on my '83 300TD wagon with only 280K miles. > > Does anyone feel that repairing rust damage is fun to do? I'll be > happy to help you indulge our hobby and even pay you MORE than > the minimum wage!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
That's useful information. In that case maybe it's worth fixing the rust on my '83 300TD wagon with only 280K miles. Does anyone feel that repairing rust damage is fun to do? I'll be happy to help you indulge our hobby and even pay you MORE than the minimum wage!! On Nov 7, 2007 1:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 87 was the only year for a diesel 124 wagon > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions > > > > Is it a diesel?? If so, pay the man his $8.5K or someone else will... > > > > On Nov 6, 2007 6:35 PM, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> If it has the ASD feature like my 92 300TDt then it should have two > >> return lines to the hydraulic reservoir, screwed on top of the tank. > >> > >> one line is the return feed from the suspension system > >> 2nd line is the return feed from the ASD system. > >> > >> without ASD there will only be one line. > >> > >> > >> On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > >> > >> > I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The > >> > evap > >> > has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model > >> > have > >> > the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the > >> > wagon. It > >> > is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is > >> > practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem > >> > to be > >> > a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear > >> > suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and > >> > filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or > >> > whatever > >> > the traction control acronym is). My questions are: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 1.What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with > >> > a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. > >> > 2.Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? > >> > > >> > 3.Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Donald H. Snook > >> > > >> > 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> John > >> 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > >> 1990's 300TDt 210k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > >> 1993 500SEL 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
87 was the only year for a diesel 124 wagon --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions > Is it a diesel?? If so, pay the man his $8.5K or someone else will... > > On Nov 6, 2007 6:35 PM, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> If it has the ASD feature like my 92 300TDt then it should have two >> return lines to the hydraulic reservoir, screwed on top of the tank. >> >> one line is the return feed from the suspension system >> 2nd line is the return feed from the ASD system. >> >> without ASD there will only be one line. >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Donald Snook wrote: >> >> > I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The >> > evap >> > has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model >> > have >> > the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the >> > wagon. It >> > is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is >> > practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem >> > to be >> > a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear >> > suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and >> > filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or >> > whatever >> > the traction control acronym is). My questions are: >> > >> > >> > >> > 1.What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with >> > a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. >> > 2.Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? >> > >> > 3.Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? >> > >> > >> > >> > Donald H. Snook >> > >> > 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> John >> 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) >> 1990's 300TDt 210k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) >> 1993 500SEL 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Is it a diesel?? If so, pay the man his $8.5K or someone else will... On Nov 6, 2007 6:35 PM, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it has the ASD feature like my 92 300TDt then it should have two > return lines to the hydraulic reservoir, screwed on top of the tank. > > one line is the return feed from the suspension system > 2nd line is the return feed from the ASD system. > > without ASD there will only be one line. > > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > > > I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The > > evap > > has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model > > have > > the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the > > wagon. It > > is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is > > practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem > > to be > > a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear > > suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and > > filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or > > whatever > > the traction control acronym is). My questions are: > > > > > > > > 1.What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with > > a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. > > 2.Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? > > > > 3.Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? > > > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > John > 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > 1990's 300TDt 210k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > 1993 500SEL 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
If it has the ASD feature like my 92 300TDt then it should have two return lines to the hydraulic reservoir, screwed on top of the tank. one line is the return feed from the suspension system 2nd line is the return feed from the ASD system. without ASD there will only be one line. On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The > evap > has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model > have > the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the > wagon. It > is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is > practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem > to be > a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear > suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and > filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or > whatever > the traction control acronym is). My questions are: > > > > 1.What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with > a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. > 2.Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? > > 3.Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? > > > > Donald H. Snook > > 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 210k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
Yes, has wiring harness issue, yes, has head gasket issue, no, that does not really sound WAY too high if its as you say. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions >I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The evap > has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model have > the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the wagon. It > is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is > practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem to be > a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear > suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and > filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or whatever > the traction control acronym is). My questions are: > > > > 1. What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with > a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. > 2. Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? > > 3. Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? > > > > Donald H. Snook > > 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1994 E320 Wagon Questions
I am looking at a 124 Wagon. It is a 1994 with 132,000 miles. The evap has been replaced. The car is in fantastic shape. Does this model have the wiring harness problem or does that start in 95 with the wagon. It is for sale for $8500 - which is WAY too high. However, the car is practically spotless. It is white with a blue interior (there seem to be a lot of them in this combination) Really nice interior. The rear suspension is in good shape and the hydraulic fluid was flushed and filled. It is NOT a 4-Matic, but I do think it has the ASD (or whatever the traction control acronym is). My questions are: 1. What is a reasonable price for this car in excellent shape with a big book of service records and a $3000 evap already done. 2. Any other problems specific to these cars that I should check? 3. Does the M104 engine have head gasket failures like the 103? Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition (but still looking for a nice Benz Wagon) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
