[MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish
While we're talking wipers has anybody ever lubed a 201 wiper? When its real cold out the wiper on my '85 190D gets real sluggish. This car has the sliding monowiper, I can't remember the specifc term, it goes in and out during its travel. I'm thinking I'll drip some ATF into the motor and lube all the linkages too. What should I lube the linkages with? I've got some sunroof grease hanging around... -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 115 Wiper Broken To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 115 Experts, The passenger side wiper does not move on the 75 240D. The shaft does not turn. I think the wipers were turned on when they were frozen to the windshield. Would someone be so kind as to post the short version of how to fix it? I hope it is not an onerous a job like the heater fan... Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 28 14:48:39 2006 Received: from web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.71]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FE69V-0002HW-VM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:48:38 + Received: (qmail 45869 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2006 14:48:34 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HXWo6k1doy1m2t/vH+yrgy+KCQngUTsbmQTq9BOt+KvFIaD/RMsCSDSM8qidSjnucTqQgsr/2PwOmqyHqPViVXVH7NYMa0VLon7WI0ArOd5zL8MxQyAKncFM4cfpBU5NDeffC3KBGaabbi91cup9wpC+dJc7jnwru+vNUAIR8Co= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:48:34 PST Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:48:34 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] HIGH altitude road trip...tips and advice needed X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:48:40 - Thanks to all that replied for the tips. I'm looking forward to another interesting cross country journey with my trusty side-kick Wulf. Highlights include painted desert, petrified forest, 5 days at Benedictine Monastery in silver city, NM, Alma, CO (highest town in N. America), CO Hwy 130 (or 150?) (highest paved highway in North America), St. Isidore the Farmer Romanesque Church outsie of Denver and the Cathedral of the Plains (largest Church west of the MS river when it was built by German immigrants in KS (many of whom were Volga Germans from Russia. The ones that did not escape back to Germany during the war were liquidated after the war by uncle Joe). The ones in KS faired much better! Will give an update on performance and any probems encountered...about 2,600 miles round trip...not really a big deal. Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand there is an automatic mechanism on the...engine?...that On the injection pump. ADA for NA engines, ALDA for turbos. Earlier cars don't have either mechanism. The Frankenheap does not, for example. compensates for altitude. 1) when they do work, do they make a difference? Absolutely. All the ADA does is cut fueling at altitude to prevent grotesque smoking. Cuts power, obviously. A turbo is what actually makes up for the thin air so that you don't notice any difference, and the ALDA is what adjusts fueling (at all times) to maximize available power without smoking. 2) if it does work, what should I know about driving at that altitude, any tips? Drive normally. 3) how do I test if it's working? ALDA/turbo? If you don't notice any power difference at altitude it's working. 4) any tips on driving up and down mountains? Upgrades are excellent Italian tune-up fodder. On long downgrades, if you find you're riding the
Re: [MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish
While we're talking wipers has anybody ever lubed a 201 wiper? When its real cold out the wiper on my '85 190D gets real sluggish. I've heard of it being done, and necessary too! This car has the sliding monowiper, I can't remember the specifc term, I believe it's profit center. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish
On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: While we're talking wipers has anybody ever lubed a 201 wiper? When its real cold out the wiper on my '85 190D gets real sluggish. This car has the sliding monowiper, I can't remember the specifc term, it goes in and out during its travel. I'm thinking I'll drip some ATF into the motor and lube all the linkages too. What should I lube the linkages with? I've got some sunroof grease hanging around... -Curt I'm having the same problem with the same item in a 190D also. I'm awaiting a used set-up. I already purchased a used assy and it is only slightly better than the original. My wipers do not function unless there is water on the windshield and I give it a push with my hand. One motor must have a bad gear box or clutch. I have one set-up torn apart and almost every part of it is shot. I recall something like 4 parts that are required to fix it but so far nobody has come forth with the info. I hope the next one at least gives me something to work with. I won't mind if I have to combine parts from all 3 to make one go. Meanwhile, Rain-X is my best friend. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish
Curt Johnny, I think the problem likely resides in the wiper transmission, the part tucked under the gray center cover, which you can't access without fully disassembling the wiper mechanism. Lubricating the external stuff may help but will only do so much. I also had a slow monowiper when cold on my 300E, and swapped on my 300D monowiper instead, which works fine. (I put the later version black wiper on the 300D.) Interestingly, the very late W124 monowipers (1994-95 model years) have a different transmission cover... it's a plastic cap that pops off so you can see, and lubricate, the internals. I got one of each (don't ask) of the two versions (Bosch and SWF) and the internals are TOTALLY different, but both were in dire need of lubrication. I'll be posting photos eventually. I wanted to install this type on my car but discovred - two days too late, d'oh - that you need the late windshield too, which has a groove for the new style weatherstripping. Alas, that will have to wait, for now. If anyone wants a 94/95 monowiper for W124, drop me a line... I have two I don't need! Here's a photo of the area that contains the 'transmission' internals: http://www.superturbos.com/misc/late_wiper1.jpg And no, that top cover doesn't just pop off! :) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:26:55 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: While we're talking wipers has anybody ever lubed a 201 wiper? When its real cold out the wiper on my '85 190D gets real sluggish. This car has the sliding monowiper, I can't remember the specifc term, it goes in and out during its travel. I'm thinking I'll drip some ATF into the motor and lube all the linkages too. What should I lube the linkages with? I've got some sunroof grease hanging around... -Curt I'm having the same problem with the same item in a 190D also. I'm awaiting a used set-up. I already purchased a used assy and it is only slightly better than the original. My wipers do not function unless there is water on the windshield and I give it a push with my hand. One motor must have a bad gear box or clutch. I have one set-up torn apart and almost every part of it is shot. I recall something like 4 parts that are required to fix it but so far nobody has come forth with the info. I hope the next one at least gives me something to work with. I won't mind if I have to combine parts from all 3 to make one go. Meanwhile, Rain-X is my best friend. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 201 Wiper Sluggish
Curt Raymond wrote: While we're talking wipers has anybody ever lubed a 201 wiper? When its r= eal cold out the wiper on my '85 190D gets real sluggish. This car has the = sliding monowiper, I can't remember the specifc term, it goes in and out du= ring its travel. I'm thinking I'll drip some ATF into the motor and lube all the linkage= s too. What should I lube the linkages with? I've got some sunroof grease h= anging around... I'm going to try to attach a file that appeared on the old Ritter/Easley = Baylor web site (try r=3Dthe file I've attached and see if it works). It = describes a fairly simple way to service SOME transmissions of 201/124 = monowipers. Very early models ('85?) and very late ones ('90s?) may NOT = be opened as described (my Euro '85 190D won't open as described). Simply removing the arm and lubricating the polished piston shaft with a = little ATF makes a BIG improvement (several applications with operation = between each application is better yet), but this strategy is less = satisfactory than disassembly and lubrication. If you are going to remove the wiper mechanism anyway, once the wiper is = out, open the blower housing and lubricate the blower motor (with ATF) = while you're in there! Marshall -- = Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 = turbo 237kmi -- next part -- Wiper Assembly Repair for = Mercedes-Benz Single Wiper-Equipped Models Introduction The technical material for this FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) was provided by Roger Ellingson of Seattle, Washington, was edited by Richard Easley of Baylor University, and is provided as a service to the subscribers of the Mercedes-Benz Discussion List. = To receive similar quality tips as described below on a daily basis, consider subscribing to the Mercedes-Benz Discussion List, which is located at the following site: [1]http://hsb.baylor.edu/html/easley/mercedes/welcome.html Assumptions Using the categories of mechanical ability from the Mercedes-Benz Discussion List [2]http://hsb.baylor.edu/html/easley/mercedes/subscribe.html,you need to be at the level of Light Do-It-Yourselfer at minimum, to do this repair. Introduction About two years ago, some friends were headed off on a weekend trip to the Washington coast for a day on the ocean beach. The weather was poor with heavy rain and as they headed down the Interstate passing through Tacoma, Washington, the windshield wiper on their high-mileage '85 190E came to a stop partway in its travel arc. They stopped on the shoulder and after an unsuccessful attempt to get the thing moving, they drove slowly to the next exit and made their way several miles to the local MB dealer. The diagnosis was a failed wiper motor or wiper transmission. This comes as an assembly and costs about $1000 installed, so they said. So, my friends rented a car and headed for home, the trip forgotten. Upon retrieving the car later that week, the bill was paid and soon after arriving home the cracked windshield was discovered, just where the technician had struck it with a tool while installing the new part. This was of course denied strongly but eventually the dealer replaced the windshield -- all in all, not a good week. = So, while driving my 95 C280 in a similar rainstorm several months ago, and watching the wiper arm slowly groan to a stop, I saw myself going through the same experience. Since I was close to my MB dealer I presented my self and car at the service department for a diagnosis. My service writer (I always deal with the same one, the Team concept) felt that the transmission assembly would have to be replaced. Since my extended warranty would cover this I wasn't too concerned until he said that he couldn't work the car in = until the following week. So, here I was with a potentially undriveable car and no way to fix it for ten days. I headed for home, between rainstorms, and decided to see what I could do, if anything, Tools needed for repairing the wiper arm 1. Small mirror 2. Dental pick or small Allen wrench Instructions 1. Raise the hood for improved access. 2. With the ignition off, rotate the wiper switch to the first position. = 3. Turn the ignition on and off rapidly, so as to move the wiper arm out of the park position. 4. Move the arm manually to the straight up position. = 5. Remove the three-sided rectangular cover (lower end of arm) that extends over the cap by pulling it straight up from the bottom end. 6. Using a