Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
My 300TD wagon was losing power going up long hills but after I changed the main fuel filter, it never skipped a beat. On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My 2015 Jetta TDI is a hoot and a hollar, 140ish post-dieselgate HP scoots > it along nice. It'll pull hard up around 95mph which is as fast as I've > ever cared to go. Its maybe a little bigger than a 123 inside. I can ride > in the backseat with the front seat setup for me. If I put the front seat > all the way back I can't get the clutch all the way down. > Slightly more tinny than a 123 but the engine is quieter so its probably a > wash. Not quite as comfortable a ride as an MB... > > -Curt > > > On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 01:26:08 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > My initial test drive of a VW TDI was a 2001 Bug. > Up to that point having only driven my NA MB diesels and the mid 70's GM > diesels, I tromped on the foot feet to get us out into traffic and gave > everyone in the bug whiplash. I was astonished at the get up and go. > After I got the TDI Bug for oldest girl child to drive around PRK, I got > my first 300D turbo and was going to swear off NA units.until I found a > low mileage 240D manny that I couldn't pass up. I enjoyed the great fuel > mileage driving back and forth to the old nuke plant and the engaged > driving a manual requires but missed the scoots. > > AZBob > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Curt Raymond > via Mercedes > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:47 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny > > I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo > that's spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective > on those cars. > > I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going > sooner... > > -Curt > > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and > "D" as needed. > > Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not > let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > > > AZBob > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
My 2015 Jetta TDI is a hoot and a hollar, 140ish post-dieselgate HP scoots it along nice. It'll pull hard up around 95mph which is as fast as I've ever cared to go. Its maybe a little bigger than a 123 inside. I can ride in the backseat with the front seat setup for me. If I put the front seat all the way back I can't get the clutch all the way down. Slightly more tinny than a 123 but the engine is quieter so its probably a wash. Not quite as comfortable a ride as an MB... -Curt On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 01:26:08 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: My initial test drive of a VW TDI was a 2001 Bug. Up to that point having only driven my NA MB diesels and the mid 70's GM diesels, I tromped on the foot feet to get us out into traffic and gave everyone in the bug whiplash. I was astonished at the get up and go. After I got the TDI Bug for oldest girl child to drive around PRK, I got my first 300D turbo and was going to swear off NA units.until I found a low mileage 240D manny that I couldn't pass up. I enjoyed the great fuel mileage driving back and forth to the old nuke plant and the engaged driving a manual requires but missed the scoots. AZBob From: Mercedes on behalf of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo that's spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective on those cars. I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going sooner... -Curt On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as needed. Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > AZBob > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
My initial test drive of a VW TDI was a 2001 Bug. Up to that point having only driven my NA MB diesels and the mid 70's GM diesels, I tromped on the foot feet to get us out into traffic and gave everyone in the bug whiplash. I was astonished at the get up and go. After I got the TDI Bug for oldest girl child to drive around PRK, I got my first 300D turbo and was going to swear off NA units.until I found a low mileage 240D manny that I couldn't pass up. I enjoyed the great fuel mileage driving back and forth to the old nuke plant and the engaged driving a manual requires but missed the scoots. AZBob From: Mercedes on behalf of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo that's spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective on those cars. I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going sooner... -Curt On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as needed. Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > AZBob > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
On 18/04/2024 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'd always assumed a 240D 3.0 would be an "adequately powerful 240D". As somebody who lives where its kind of hilly a 240D with its 50mph max sustained hill climbing speed was a drag. I used to hit some hills at 70mph so I could crest at 55. A 190D has the same power but a little less weight and could hold speed up the hills. I was very happy with my '98 Jetta TDI, at 90hp it had enough power to accelerate up those hills so I recon a 240D 3.0 would probably be able to sustain speed or maybe accelerate a little. Of course there would be a fuel use penalty on the NA engine. -Curt My W115 300D doesn't generally feel too anaemic on hills but we in relatively flat country here on the eastern edge of the prairies. If feels generally alright on hills unless I have to stop and then climb the hill. I have taken the car to the cottage periodically and there is one place on the highway west bound out of Kenora, Ontario where the road through town meets the by-pass around the town. There is a stop sign and after the stop, I have to make a hard left hand turn onto the highway and climb uphill for half a mile or more. I have a difficult time getting up to highway speed in that location. The road from the east is a long straight stretch and there is enough traffic that I will generally have vehicles behind me wishing that I would get out of their way by the time I get to the top and start down the other side. This is all 2 lane highway so there is no real opportunity for them to pass me. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
I'd always assumed a 240D 3.0 would be an "adequately powerful 240D". As somebody who lives where its kind of hilly a 240D with its 50mph max sustained hill climbing speed was a drag. I used to hit some hills at 70mph so I could crest at 55. A 190D has the same power but a little less weight and could hold speed up the hills. I was very happy with my '98 Jetta TDI, at 90hp it had enough power to accelerate up those hills so I recon a 240D 3.0 would probably be able to sustain speed or maybe accelerate a little. Of course there would be a fuel use penalty on the NA engine. -Curt On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 04:04:48 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:50:09 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and > "D" as needed. > > Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not > let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. My 240D/3.0 (which is now at Okie Acres) had a OM617.912 naturally aspirated engine. It got up and went acceptably, though not like my current W116 300SD ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo that's spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective on those cars. I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going sooner... -Curt On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as needed. Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > AZBob > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:50:09 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and > "D" as needed. > > Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not > let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. My 240D/3.0 (which is now at Okie Acres) had a OM617.912 naturally aspirated engine. It got up and went acceptably, though not like my current W116 300SD ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as needed. Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the RPMs fall too much during shifts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > AZBob > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny
Dude has a sense of humor: "Lessons on how to drive stick are included if needed upon purchase, I won’t yell at you like your dad." On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:01 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ > > I wonder what this would drive like? > > AZBob > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300D Manny
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/ I wonder what this would drive like? AZBob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
