Im still not sure if it needs a tranny or if the converter is not hooked
up right
OK Don wrote:
And I have the tranny it needs ---
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I have a 87 190Dt
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95 E300, 94
Maybe the cam is locked up and bottom end is Ok. Take the chain loose
to check.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Noit moves not. Nothing.
Bob R
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in
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damn, I sure do miss that Quantum, sort of. Kind of wish Iwould have
kept it a while. Oh well.
Curt Raymond wrote:
Two years ago
I think you're in the better situation right now --- let's see, MB vs. VW
-- hm.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get
it. In either case I'd be driving it now rather than
Ehh, whatever. I did like the car, my wife hated it though. I'd have liked the
45mpg.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:06:15 -0500
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
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No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to
IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well
...
EdB
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no rust to speak of. Just one small area behind
Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top.
Whatever is broken is below, evidently.
Time to start cleaning her out.
Bob R
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:
No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a
Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum it
was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:01:34 -0400
From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way
I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then
sent to the crusher. Such a shame.
Ed Booher wrote:
No rust is very tasty. Wonder what the freight charges for shipping a car to
IN from AZ would be :) My 123 has rust pretty much in every panel Ah well
...
EdB
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Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack
in the chain will allow?
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up top.
Whatever is broken is below, evidently.
Time to start cleaning her out.
Bob R
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Kaleb C.
damn, I sure do miss that Quantum, sort of. Kind of wish Iwould have
kept it a while. Oh well.
Curt Raymond wrote:
Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum it
was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA...
-Curt
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
95 E300, 94
I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then
sent to the crusher. Such a shame.
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
Got an '85 CD or a '87 190dt ?
Rick
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I have a 87 190Dt
Rick Knoble wrote:
I have many dead rust free cars that will probably get picked clean then
sent to the crusher. Such a shame.
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
Got an '85 CD or a '87 190dt ?
Rick
And I have the tranny it needs ---
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I have a 87 190Dt
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Noit moves not. Nothing.
Bob R
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in
the chain will allow?
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously
How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails?
EdB
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the
'80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D.
What do I now do
There is no rust to speak of. Just one small area behind passenger rear
wheel. None anywhere else. This car has been in CA and AZ ll its life.
Bob R
On Jun 19, 2010 4:35 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:
How much rust is within her floorpans and ye verily her frame rails?
EdB
On Thu,
Jack up the radiator cap, drive a newer car under it!
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:
This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona
desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at
ONE with the crank forever.
RIP.
Kevin in Hillsboro,
crapped out on way to work
AMEN...
Bob r
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:
This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona
desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now
at ONE with the crank forever.
RIP
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AMEN...
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Kevin Kraly kr
But its probably in nice shape otherwise? Its a shame when they get to
that point. If the paint and body are in good shape, it might be worth
it to fnd a wrecked or rusty car with good parts. What year is it?
What color is your seats?
Bob Rentfro wrote:
The issue is now deciding how much
Water pump?
Timing chain?
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Unless you have the time and enjoy the work, it sounds to me like it's a parts
car now.
You should be able to find a decent replacement, even a nice upgrade, much less
money than it will cost to fix this one up, given everything you've listed and
now the seized engine.
Allan
On Fri, 18 Jun
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Water pump?
Timing chain?
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
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Water pump?
Timing chain?
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:42:08 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject
After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just
starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of
the road, she died. When I tried to start her it was as if the starter was
locked. Didn't get time to mess with it yet.
There was nothing leaking
: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl
just starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was
pulling off of the road, she died. When I tried to start
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
My first thought is clogged fuel filters, but the 'locked starter' bit
is concerning. Dead starter or battery at the same time as a clogged
fuel filter?
I sure hope it isn't a seized engine at the same time as a seized engine.
But that
don't think his
engine actually seized.
Randy
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Dillon
maybe the engine locked up, try turning it over with a breaker bar and
see what it does.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl just
starting losing power and, when I put her in neutral as I was pulling off of
the road, she died. When I tried to
I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket.
On Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
maybe the engine locked up, try turning it over with a breaker bar and see
what it does.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
After driving 40 of the 42 miles to the old nuke plant, the old girl
Normally i could turn the engine over by turning the power steering pulley.
Now it won't do that.
Bob are
My droid talks to text feature putting weird words sometimes
On Jun 17, 2010 3:28 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to go find a 27 millimeters socket.
On Jun 17, 2010
does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as
this was happening? You are going to have to remove the fan and put a
27mm socket on the crank and try it. If it does not do anything, its
locked up.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Normally i could turn the engine over by turning
I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just
lost power and died the moment put it in neutral.
On Jun 17, 2010 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this
was happening? You are
OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I didn't
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I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just
lost power
C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
does not sound good at all. Did you notice a loss of oil pressure as this
was happening? You are going to have to remove
I had a '69 220D engine act similarly a png time ago. It came out of a car
that was in a garage fire. I drove it about 10k - 15k miles, then on the way
to work one morning, it just acted like the throttle linkage came off,
except that it died when I put it in neutral. Couldn't crank it at all.
When I spoke to my indy on the phone eariler he mentioned I may have wiped a
bearing.
On Jun 17, 2010 5:50 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
I had a '69 220D engine act similarly a png time ago. It came out of a car
that was in a garage fire. I drove it about 10k - 15k miles, then on the way
to
Did it make strange noises or just stop? One would think it the engine
was seizing there might be some unusual noises.
I was on the back of my brother's toilet-seat 90 when it
seized. No unusual noises at all, it just started slowing
down and then finally locked the rear wheel.
Something is
First thing you do whenever anything is 'odd' is to scan
the gauges. Would have been good info to have now.
-- Jim
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I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a
loss of compression, no locking up.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
I didn't notice the pressure. It made no noise and spewed no smoke. Is just
lost power and died the moment put it in neutral.
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yes, that is possible as well although I would think the belt would be
squeeling.
WILTON wrote:
Could power steering pump, alternator or AC compressor seize in such a
manner as to stall the engine. AC compressor and pulley on a '71
Chrysler did this to me at 75 MPH on I-80 in Iowa (or is it
I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker
bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP?
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I have seen 240D's do this, running fine then they just die, but its a loss
of compression, no
Most likely. Shouldn't be too hard to find another engine ---
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker
bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP?
Bob R
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Panic! (the national past
yep, you might be able to tear it down and rebuild it, but usually when
the lock its best to just find a good used motor, or scrap the car.
That would be a shame though.
Bob Rentfro wrote:
I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24 breaker
bar and I cannot turn it at
The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it.
It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC
workand now an engine. I have to decide where to draw the line.
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
yep, you might
Hmm - this is a123? Sounds like it's time to move up to a 124.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into it.
It needs a tranny, the front end rebuilt, new back seat seatback, HAVC
workand now an engine. I
Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the
'80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D.
What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns are too far away.
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm - this is a123? Sounds
Park it in your front yard like Mao ---
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of maybe moving into the
'80's.live wild and get a turbo. Maybe an '85 300D.
What do I now do with this broke one? All you clowns
It does look nice. Mine will never rust like that, though.
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:15 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Park it in your front yard like Mao ---
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Yupnow it's a broke W123. I was thinking of
Loosen the belt and see if the engine will turn.
Wilton
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:47 PM
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I just tried to turn
Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
I just tried to turn it by handhave the 27mm on it with a 24
breaker
bar and I cannot turn it at all. RIP?
Bob R
I'm betting/hoping it's a seized accessory. My first '78 300D had the AC
compressor partially seize and the engine stalled while idling. It was hard
to start since the AC clutch was still engaged, but it ran OK once it
started and the ACC was turned off.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
I have to decide where to draw the line
The line may have been drawn, depending on how attached you are to it. How
is the body and the interior besides the bad rear seatback? Most 300D's of
similar age have tired front end components anyway. If you would be putting
it in the shop for the
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:18:04 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
It does look nice. Mine will never rust like that, though.
You can aid that process with a sprinkler and a little rock salt ...
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What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can be
loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and check their
pulleys. If they turn, the engine is finito.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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AC belt is off, alternor can be turned by hand.
It;s the engine I'm afraid.
Bob R
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:
What about the AC and PS belts? They are the easiest ones since they can
be loosened from the top. Don't give up until you loosen them and
What's the body like, if it is good you may want to spend money but if the body
is rough and has rust, shoot it and get another.
Hendrik
who is trying to work out he OK alcohol laws
On Thu Jun 17 18:53 , Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com sent:
The issue is now deciding how much I want to put into
This '77 300D engine, after many miles of loyal service in the Arizona
desert heat, will now be laid to rest. All 5 pistons and rods are now at
ONE with the crank forever.
RIP.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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