Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Nissans, Toyotas, Hondas, VWs, and Cheep Klasses are all almost 
indistinguishable.


On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, at 15:27, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember 
> seeing many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It 
> looked like it could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a 
> Nissan, but by comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a 
> Camry is better looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a 
> three pointed star on it. 
>
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Agreed. A Nissan is not an MB and vice-versa.

However, as solid, reliable transportation the Nissan is a good choice.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:47 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> I’m not saying Nissans are bad. I like the Maxima.  And I have a friend with 
> over 300K on his Altima.  But, a Nissan shouldn’t be the comparator for a 
> Mercedes. 
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 3:36 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
>> 
>> I talked a co-worker into buying an Altima a few years ago and he’s now on 
>> #2, which he bought brand new a few months ago (first one was a used 2012) 
>> and he loves it. Pretty bulletproof, especially since they sorted out the 
>> lousy CVT the earlier models have. It’s a really nice car.
>> 
>> I would own one.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
>>> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing 
>>> many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like 
>>> it could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by 
>>> comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better 
>>> looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on 
>>> it. 
>>> 
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I’m not saying Nissans are bad. I like the Maxima.  And I have a friend with 
over 300K on his Altima.  But, a Nissan shouldn’t be the comparator for a 
Mercedes. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 28, 2023, at 3:36 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> I talked a co-worker into buying an Altima a few years ago and he’s now on 
> #2, which he bought brand new a few months ago (first one was a used 2012) 
> and he loves it. Pretty bulletproof, especially since they sorted out the 
> lousy CVT the earlier models have. It’s a really nice car.
> 
> I would own one.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
>> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing 
>> many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it 
>> could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by 
>> comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better 
>> looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on 
>> it. 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Who makes it?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 4:37 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I talked a co-worker into buying an Altima a few years ago and he’s now on
> #2, which he bought brand new a few months ago (first one was a used 2012)
> and he loves it. Pretty bulletproof, especially since they sorted out the
> lousy CVT the earlier models have. It’s a really nice car.
>
> I would own one.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB
> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing
> many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like
> it could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by
> comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better
> looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on
> it.
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They are horrible cars, like a Toyota or honda, front wheel drive. I had one as 
a loaner last year. 

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> On Aug 28, 2023, at 3:28 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing many 
> of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it could 
> have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by comparison 
> to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better looking.  It is 
> sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's a Euroturd that finally got imported here to address the lower end 
of the market that thinks driving one of these (it's an MB!) will 
increase their social status or perceived well-being.  If you can't 
afford a C-klasse coming off lease, then this is the car for you!  There 
used to be some small SUV thing of some sort (B-klasse?) I would see 
occasionally in Houston with Mexico plates, this was like 15-16yr ago.  
They were a step up from a Smart in size.  Driving in amongst all the 
F-150s looked like a sure way to kill yourself eventually.


--FT

On 8/28/23 4:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB Dealership.  
An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing many of those on 
the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it could have been a 
Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by comparison to some other 
really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better looking.  It is sad that it is 
driving around with a three pointed star on it.

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I talked a co-worker into buying an Altima a few years ago and he’s now on #2, 
which he bought brand new a few months ago (first one was a used 2012) and he 
loves it. Pretty bulletproof, especially since they sorted out the lousy CVT 
the earlier models have. It’s a really nice car.

I would own one.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing many 
> of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it could 
> have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by comparison 
> to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better looking.  It is 
> sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on it. 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I drove one as a loaner car once.  Very helpful in locating every bump in
the road more than 1mm high.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 4:28 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB
> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing
> many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like
> it could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by
> comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better
> looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on
> it.
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
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[MBZ] A-Class

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB Dealership.  
An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing many of those on 
the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it could have been a 
Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by comparison to some other 
really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better looking.  It is sad that it is 
driving around with a three pointed star on it. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Class

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good first car for a youngster at that price

--FT
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> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Need I say more?
> 
> 
> [00909_8BhNLd3JzAP_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
> 2005 Mercedes For Sale - cars & trucks - by owner - 
> vehicle...
> sarasota.craigslist.org
> 
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[MBZ] Cheap Class

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Need I say more?


[00909_8BhNLd3JzAP_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
2005 Mercedes For Sale - cars & trucks - by owner - 
vehicle...
sarasota.craigslist.org

-D
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Re: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This is a very nice looking car, but as a diesel I would check that the oil
cooler seals aren't leaking, oil stain engine pan guard ( slide 155) and
what is the condition of the crank case vent assembly. If it is worn out
will let excess oil into the intake air stream and then combine EGR gases
and make a soggy mess. Been there done that.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Subject: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

Selling at NR.  Bargain or nightmare?

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjzNeYAx/2013-mercedes-benz-s350-bluetec-4m
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Re: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I might bid on it if it had "blind spot assist".  It has most every other
option...

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 2:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Already well out of my price range.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, at 13:00, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Selling at NR.  Bargain or nightmare?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Already well out of my price range.


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> Selling at NR.  Bargain or nightmare?
>
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[MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Selling at NR.  Bargain or nightmare?

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjzNeYAx/2013-mercedes-benz-s350-bluetec-4matic
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Re: [MBZ] A Class

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It is a FWD car just like any other cheap Toyota or honda. 

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> On May 15, 2022, at 12:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> They are pretty small. SWMBO drove one and fell in love with it in 2019. 
> Took some fast talking to talk her off the ledge. 
> 
> AZBob
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>> On May 14, 2022, at 6:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I saw one the other day. It’s hard to judge the size as it looks pretty 
>> much like a shrunken Cheep klasse 
>> 
>> --FT
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>> 
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>>> I thought these were smaller.
>>> 
>>> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2019-mercedes-220-4matic/7483704583.html
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Re: [MBZ] A Class

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

They are pretty small. SWMBO drove one and fell in love with it in 2019. Took 
some fast talking to talk her off the ledge. 

AZBob

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> On May 14, 2022, at 6:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> I saw one the other day. It’s hard to judge the size as it looks pretty much 
> like a shrunken Cheep klasse 
> 
> --FT
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>> On May 14, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought these were smaller.
>> 
>> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2019-mercedes-220-4matic/7483704583.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Class

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I saw one the other day. It’s hard to judge the size as it looks pretty much 
like a shrunken Cheep klasse 

--FT
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> On May 14, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> I thought these were smaller.
> 
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2019-mercedes-220-4matic/7483704583.html
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[MBZ] A Class

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I thought these were smaller.

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2019-mercedes-220-4matic/7483704583.html

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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In the best possible sense of the word.

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> Yes they’re gay as are all electric cars. How about that!
>
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> > Anyone know much about these?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes they’re gay as are all electric cars. How about that!

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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric

[Clay via Mercedes]

Built in BC Canada.  Ballard tech was bought out by DBAG.  I saw a few at the 
Vancouver MBCA gathering in 2016 where they had seminar done by the factory 
people.  The things were supposed to be getting approved for export to USA in 
the coming few years.  I think one of the BC members drove on to the SEA show 
and shine in 2018


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> On Jun 5, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Nope. Is that a full electric?  I think I might have seen a couple running 
> around but they are quite forgettable
> 
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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yes, seems to have maybe 80-100 mile range? Co-developed with Tesla?

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/forgotten-electric-cars-mercedes-b-class-electric-drive#1

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> Nope. Is that a full electric?  I think I might have seen a couple 
> running around but they are quite forgettable
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/5/21 2:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Anyone know much about these?
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/d/indianapolis-2014-mercedes-benz-class/7329624171.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nope. Is that a full electric?  I think I might have seen a couple 
running around but they are quite forgettable


--FT

On 6/5/21 2:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone know much about these?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/d/indianapolis-2014-mercedes-benz-class/7329624171.html

Allan

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[MBZ] B-class electric

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Anyone know much about these?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/d/indianapolis-2014-mercedes-benz-class/7329624171.html

Allan

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[MBZ] Blutec Class Action

[greg via Mercedes]

Just received a fat mailing to apply for a settlement of $$$.

Anybody know about this? It applies to OM642 engines.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Crap class

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Great Mercedes content.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 3:14 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> Now that the United Kingdom has relaxed its social distancing rules,
> thousands of punters have been throwing caution into the wind, and
> visiting beaches to make the most of the good weather.
>
> While there might be plenty of room on the beach, parking quickly becomes
> an issue on a nice day, and one Mercedes-Benz driver decided to use a
> nearby paddock.
>
> Unfortunately for this driver, the farmer that owns the paddock in
> Cornwall is obviously sick of people using his property, and decides to
> get some revenge by spraying the C-Class with manure from his fertilizer
> spreader.
>
> “'I've nearly finished mate, I'm not stopping. I hope you have as much fun
> washing your car as I am going to have painting it for you,” the farmer
> jokes as he films the black car turning brown.
>
>
> https://www.driven.co.nz/news/watch-farmer-gets-his-revenge-on-beach-goers-illegally-parking-on-his-property/
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[MBZ] Crap class

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

Now that the United Kingdom has relaxed its social distancing rules,
thousands of punters have been throwing caution into the wind, and
visiting beaches to make the most of the good weather.

While there might be plenty of room on the beach, parking quickly becomes
an issue on a nice day, and one Mercedes-Benz driver decided to use a
nearby paddock.

Unfortunately for this driver, the farmer that owns the paddock in
Cornwall is obviously sick of people using his property, and decides to
get some revenge by spraying the C-Class with manure from his fertilizer
spreader.

“'I've nearly finished mate, I'm not stopping. I hope you have as much fun
washing your car as I am going to have painting it for you,” the farmer
jokes as he films the black car turning brown.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/watch-farmer-gets-his-revenge-on-beach-goers-illegally-parking-on-his-property/

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

No miles listed but looks half decent for the $$

--FT
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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Another one for your collection!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
>  
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was wondering what those were. I didn’t look closely.

Some dental floss and 3M Adhesive Remover and they’re gone.

-D


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> Good deal and nice car but the stick on vents on the side have to go. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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>> Another one for your collection!
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

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Good deal and nice car but the stick on vents on the side have to go. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Another one for your collection!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
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[MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another one for your collection!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html 


-D
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[MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another one for your collection!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html 


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Re: [MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time,

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

and don't forget the bulletproof glass!

Not that I'm into 140s but I would think maybe like $3k, it looks half 
nice, but since I ain't buying I'm bottom feeding anyway...


-_FT

On 1/23/20 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I would agree with Andrew somewhat. The S420 W140 was the “gas and go” version 
of the chassis, and one in good shape like this one appears to be probably a 
$3500 car.

I bought Little Tommy’s S420 with nearly 300k on the clock and it’s still 
around here with over 350k on it last time I heard. They’re pretty bulletproof, 
but not terribly economical.

-D





On Jan 23, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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CL crackhead

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-benz-420-class-luxury/7059973168.html

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Re: [MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time,

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree with Andrew somewhat. The S420 W140 was the “gas and go” version 
of the chassis, and one in good shape like this one appears to be probably a 
$3500 car.

I bought Little Tommy’s S420 with nearly 300k on the clock and it’s still 
around here with over 350k on it last time I heard. They’re pretty bulletproof, 
but not terribly economical.

-D




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> CL crackhead
> 
> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-benz-420-class-luxury/7059973168.html
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Re: [MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time,

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What do you think it's worth?  $3800 seems like a bargain to me, if there
are no major issues.

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> CL crackhead
>
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> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-benz-420-class-luxury/7059973168.html
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[MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time,

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

CL crackhead

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-benz-420-class-luxury/7059973168.html

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[MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I need money to support my meth habit

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-class-luxury-sedan/7014516753.html

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Re: [MBZ] B-class electric?

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On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:37:34 -0400
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  wrote:

> looking on Carmax I see a bunch of B-class electric drive little wagon 
> sort of things.  Never seen these before?
> 
> https://www.carmax.com/search?location=charleston+sc#BT=0=all=249+250+1001+1000+265+999+772=249+250+1001+1000+265+999+772=1=20=4294963073+4294959464=0=0%2014%206%209=29407
 
> --FT

Mercedes-Benz has confirmed that the B-class Electric Drive—badged B250e—won’t 
be offered after the 2017 model year. The B250e is Mercedes-Benz’s only 
all-electric vehicle, yet the news of its demise isn’t entirely surprising. It 
was conceived from the start with an unusual pedigree and a limited shelf life 
while Mercedes-Benz used it to test some ideas (and meet its California 
ZEV-mandate requirements) on the way to a next electric stepsnip

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/bye-bye-baby-b-mercedes-spikes-its-electric-subcompact-eyes-more-mainstream-evs



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[MBZ] B-class electric?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

looking on Carmax I see a bunch of B-class electric drive little wagon 
sort of things.  Never seen these before?


https://www.carmax.com/search?location=charleston+sc#BT=0=all=249+250+1001+1000+265+999+772=249+250+1001+1000+265+999+772=1=20=4294963073+4294959464=0=0%2014%206%209=29407


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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yep,  The 220S, 220Sa, (Ponton) 220Sb (111) (SEb 112), 230S, then the 
108/9 series all precedded the 116 and all were REAL mercedes, as was 
the 116.  The 126 has too much prastic, but is a good car.  I've had 2 
well over 400k.  I still lust for a 6.9.


Yes, the moron is an idiot, but at least he didn't claim the W220 or the 
newer junk is the best.  I do agree that the W220 might be number 999 on 
the top 10 list.



ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
January 13, 2018 at 9:00 AM
Well, as a 20 year plus owner of a 116, 300SD with over 425,000 miles 
and all original except the tranny, I can say this dork doesn't know 
his butt from a hole in the ground about the older MBs. The "legendary 
126" has too much plastic on the sides that encourages rust and the 
seats just split and deteriorate. The newer models are still more 
plastic and have wiring problems, etc. etc. etc.


So, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll try to enjoy the 
weekend, cold weather and all.


Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Yes, my 1980 300SD was sold in Atlanta and has always lived here.  I've owned 
it for about 22 years now.  It has no rust.  I had to finally replace the 
tranny at about 420,000 miles.  And my wife replaced the seats and pads about 
20 years ago.  It starts and runs fine.  I agree that the window seals, trunk 
seal, etc. are probably the main cause of rust on the cars of this era.  My 
1983 300D has only one small rust spot on a rear fender and it has around 
360,000 miles.  Neither car gets driven much these days.  My wife and I used to 
drive them daily to work.  I like the solid, metal feel of both the 116 and 
123.  Newer vehicles just don't have that. 

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> there wasn't any good sheet metal below the belt line.


That's what did in the poor W115 Frankenheap.  Still, I had 13 years of
winter driving fun with it, _and_ it made me money, enough to purchase its
prospective replacement!

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

W116's were made with Russian steel (long German steelworker's strike in the 
70's) and are prone to SEVERE rust.  They fell apart in Germany, too.

The vast majority are gone, just like the later W108s -- same issue, massive 
rust.  

Other than the massive fuel consumption (14  mpg was typical for the W117, less 
for the SLC) they were fun cars.  I really enjoyed my W108, but when the trunk 
floor and floor pans went, I discovered the bottoms of the doors were about to 
fall out too, so it went to the recyclers.  No way to fix it, there wasn't any 
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The usual cause like all other MB’s of the time is its not salt related it’s 
body seals leaking water into the car which then rots them from the inside. If 
people replaced dried out window seals it would avoid rust.

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> On Jan 13, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercede mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Point well taken, Roger.
> 
> I like the W116s, but I have always had concerns over the amount of rust I 
> often see on them.  It makes me wonder if it was endemic across the model 
> line, or just an environmental/climate related issue for where the car 
> “lived”?
> 
> Yours is solid, correct?  Has it always been in the South?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:00 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, as a 20 year plus owner of a 116, 300SD with over 425,000 miles and 
>> all original except the tranny, I can say this dork doesn't know his butt 
>> from a hole in the ground about the older MBs.  The "legendary 126" has too 
>> much plastic on the sides that encourages rust and the seats just split and 
>> deteriorate.  The newer models are still more plastic and have wiring 
>> problems, etc. etc. etc. 
>> 
>> So, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll try to enjoy the weekend, cold 
>> weather and all.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yes the W116 is as rust prone as the W123. Personally, I feel that the w116 has 
clean elegant lines and is seriously under appreciated especially for its 
intrinsic beauty.

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> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Point well taken, Roger.
> 
> I like the W116s, but I have always had concerns over the amount of rust I 
> often see on them.  It makes me wonder if it was endemic across the model 
> line, or just an environmental/climate related issue for where the car 
> “lived”?
> 
> Yours is solid, correct?  Has it always been in the South?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:00 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, as a 20 year plus owner of a 116, 300SD with over 425,000 miles and 
>> all original except the tranny, I can say this dork doesn't know his butt 
>> from a hole in the ground about the older MBs.  The "legendary 126" has too 
>> much plastic on the sides that encourages rust and the seats just split and 
>> deteriorate.  The newer models are still more plastic and have wiring 
>> problems, etc. etc. etc. 
>> 
>> So, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll try to enjoy the weekend, cold 
>> weather and all.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Point well taken, Roger.

I like the W116s, but I have always had concerns over the amount of rust I 
often see on them.  It makes me wonder if it was endemic across the model line, 
or just an environmental/climate related issue for where the car “lived”?

Yours is solid, correct?  Has it always been in the South?

-D


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> 
> Well, as a 20 year plus owner of a 116, 300SD with over 425,000 miles and all 
> original except the tranny, I can say this dork doesn't know his butt from a 
> hole in the ground about the older MBs.  The "legendary 126" has too much 
> plastic on the sides that encourages rust and the seats just split and 
> deteriorate.  The newer models are still more plastic and have wiring 
> problems, etc. etc. etc. 
> 
> So, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll try to enjoy the weekend, cold 
> weather and all.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Roger
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Well, as a 20 year plus owner of a 116, 300SD with over 425,000 miles and all 
original except the tranny, I can say this dork doesn't know his butt from a 
hole in the ground about the older MBs.  The "legendary 126" has too much 
plastic on the sides that encourages rust and the seats just split and 
deteriorate.  The newer models are still more plastic and have wiring problems, 
etc. etc. etc. 

So, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll try to enjoy the weekend, cold 
weather and all.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] S class

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

This boy is a little slow.  Maybe he needs a smack upside the head

clay 

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1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 12, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/here-are-all-the-mercedes-benz-s-class-models-ranked-from-best-to-worst-272417
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQXBeYwFUc
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I sent the article to #1 boy, as his W140 leads the pack


clay 

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POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay will get a kick out of this review:
> 
> 999. W220 (1999-2006)
> 
> Yes, I've put the W220 S-Class in 999th place. Few vehicles have tarnished a 
> dynasty quite like the W220 S-Class, which was sold throughout the early 
> 2000s. Featuring weird, melted "Is it a Hyundai?" styling and embarrassing 
> interior materials (coupled with a similarly awful layout) these have 
> deservedly fallen in price more than basically any other S-Class. They're 
> also a nightmare to own -- especially when you buy one for $7,500 and are 
> suddenly confronted with repair bills that can easily surpass that figure -- 
> and filled with all sorts of complicated electronics that couldn't hide the 
> fact that this vehicle, following up the W140, represented one of the worst 
> redesigns in automotive history.
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Re: [MBZ] S class

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Clay will get a kick out of this review:

999. W220 (1999-2006)

Yes, I've put the W220 S-Class in 999th place. Few vehicles have tarnished a 
dynasty quite like the W220 S-Class, which was sold throughout the early 2000s. 
Featuring weird, melted "Is it a Hyundai?" styling and embarrassing interior 
materials (coupled with a similarly awful layout) these have deservedly fallen 
in price more than basically any other S-Class. They're also a nightmare to own 
-- especially when you buy one for $7,500 and are suddenly confronted with 
repair bills that can easily surpass that figure -- and filled with all sorts 
of complicated electronics that couldn't hide the fact that this vehicle, 
following up the W140, represented one of the worst redesigns in automotive 
history.

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[MBZ] S class

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/here-are-all-the-mercedes-benz-s-class-models-ranked-from-best-to-worst-272417

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQXBeYwFUc


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Re: [MBZ] R class

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/10/2015 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
So I am looking at a very cheap R class CDI for the wife.  They have 
looked like mini vans to me.  Has anybody here messed with them? We 
wanted to find a GL but cant seem to find one at a reasonable price 
and this R is cheap.


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Re: [MBZ] R class

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Dan inquires:

>Isn’t that what Denial bought?

Yup. Not a bad looking vehicle in person. Plenty of room for kids, or 
grandkids, and "stuff". 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] R class

[WILTON via Mercedes]

# 2 son put 200++ thou on an '07.  I never messed with it.

Wilton

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So I am looking at a very cheap R class CDI for the wife.  They 
have looked like mini vans to me.  Has anybody here messed with 
them?  We wanted to find a GL but cant seem to find one at a 
reasonable price and this R is cheap.


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Re: [MBZ] R class

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Didn't Wilton's offspring dump one over transmission problems?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] R class

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yes.

Wilton

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Didn't Wilton's offspring dump one over transmission problems?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] R class

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well after hearing how he described it and having similar problem with my GL it 
was the transfer case, which usually does not have problems 

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> Didn't Wilton's offspring dump one over transmission problems?
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[MBZ] R class

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I am looking at a very cheap R class CDI for the wife.  They 
have looked like mini vans to me.  Has anybody here messed with 
them?  We wanted to find a GL but cant seem to find one at a 
reasonable price and this R is cheap.


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Re: [MBZ] R class

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Isn’t that what Denial bought?

Dan


> On Oct 5, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> So I am looking at a very cheap R class CDI for the wife.  They have looked 
> like mini vans to me.  Has anybody here messed with them?  We wanted to find 
> a GL but cant seem to find one at a reasonable price and this R is cheap.
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[MBZ] M Class Fixer-Upper for Mitch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2456817-fs-1998-ml320-w163-michigan.html#post12910425
 


Get them down to $2000 and spend $500 and it might be a decent ride.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] M Class Fixer-Upper for Mitch

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

If the exhaust system rusted out one might think the rest of it has some 
issues too.  But for a beater at a cheaper price...


--R



On 9/13/15 12:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe 1k. 00 and later are fine but I would avoid earlier ones. Especially with 
this many miles and issues

Sent from my iPhone


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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2456817-fs-1998-ml320-w163-michigan.html#post12910425
 


Get them down to $2000 and spend $500 and it might be a decent ride.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] M Class Fixer-Upper for Mitch

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> On September 13, 2015 at 12:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2456817-fs-1998-ml320-w163-michigan.html#post12910425
> 
> 
> Get them down to $2000 and spend $500 and it might be a decent ride.


Not sure an early ML with 300k on the clock is going to be a decent ride...or
not decent enough
to be worth multiple thousands of dollars. 
If it was $1000 with the transmission locked in 2nd gear and 150-200k on the odo
I'd be all over it now that I have DAS. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] M Class Fixer-Upper for Mitch

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http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/5206673488.html

http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5170939504.html

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Re: [MBZ] M Class Fixer-Upper for Mitch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe 1k. 00 and later are fine but I would avoid earlier ones. Especially with 
this many miles and issues

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> 
> Get them down to $2000 and spend $500 and it might be a decent ride.
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Re: [MBZ] E-Class fights back

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Karma with a c.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It had the brick-proof windows

 --R




 On 3/3/15 1:07 AM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] E-Class fights back

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It had the brick-proof windows

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[MBZ] E-Class fights back

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Curly is really Loren, right?


I haven't seen Curly expounding on the virtues of corn whiskey as a gasoline 
additive.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

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OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2


Well, that article ranks it as more reliable than a Dodge Dart, Ford Fiesta or 
Chevy Cruze Turbo. And far more reliable than the Jeep Cherokee, which has a 
reputation for serious reliability issues with its...wait for it...Bluetooth 
pairing!


(I'd be a lot more upset if my brand new S-classe had active suspension problems 
than if my Jeep refused to stay interfaced with my phone)

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Its interesting how many are listed because of some infotainment problem
(Navigation, bluetooth, etc).  Seeing as the quality of these features for
the US in the S class have been largely my responsibility over the last 4
years or so, I'm quite pleased :-)

Jaime


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 OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-
 BBezB2q#image=2


 Well, that article ranks it as more reliable than a Dodge Dart, Ford
 Fiesta or Chevy Cruze Turbo. And far more reliable than the Jeep Cherokee,
 which has a reputation for serious reliability issues with its...wait for
 it...Bluetooth pairing!

 (I'd be a lot more upset if my brand new S-classe had active suspension
 problems than if my Jeep refused to stay interfaced with my phone)
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

You should remember that the normal Mercedes maintenance is considered  
a defect in these surveys.  The normal auto buyer in the US thinks  
that brake pads should last at least 10 years, and changing oil is a  
biannual sort of thing.  A Mercedes is unreliable if it requires  
service at 20,000 mile intervals, as they NEVER perform any routine  
maintenance.


I've been seeing this for decades.  Of course, the Mercedes will last  
them 30 years, but the typical buyer (most of them are leased now)  
is bored with the loss of absolute newness in a couple years and  
want's another one.


That said, the newer models are NOT as rock solid as the older ones,  
excepting the rust issues with the ones made in the late 60's and  
early 70's with Russian high phosphate steel.  Seen any W116s lately?


New models have electronic problems, which appear to be getting worse,  
and suffer from much lower quality build (thank you Chrysler!) and I'm  
not sure what I'm going to replace my W124's with when they do wear  
out -- 250k on the TE and 410k on the 300D.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Replace it with a w204 c class. Those are quite reliable from what I've been 
hearing.

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 On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You should remember that the normal Mercedes maintenance is considered a 
 defect in these surveys.  The normal auto buyer in the US thinks that brake 
 pads should last at least 10 years, and changing oil is a biannual sort of 
 thing.  A Mercedes is unreliable if it requires service at 20,000 mile 
 intervals, as they NEVER perform any routine maintenance.
 
 I've been seeing this for decades.  Of course, the Mercedes will last them 30 
 years, but the typical buyer (most of them are leased now) is bored with 
 the loss of absolute newness in a couple years and want's another one.
 
 That said, the newer models are NOT as rock solid as the older ones, 
 excepting the rust issues with the ones made in the late 60's and early 70's 
 with Russian high phosphate steel.  Seen any W116s lately?
 
 New models have electronic problems, which appear to be getting worse, and 
 suffer from much lower quality build (thank you Chrysler!) and I'm not sure 
 what I'm going to replace my W124's with when they do wear out -- 250k on the 
 TE and 410k on the 300D.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 and I'm not sure what I'm going to replace my W124's with when they 
do wear out -- 250k on the TE and 410k on the 300D.


Peter


I figured that out just before I tried to sell the 240D.

As I get older, chances are that the range I travel from home base is 
likely to get smaller.  (assuming a normal progression)  Therefore, a 
240D becomes the ideal transportation for a less than 200 mile range. 
(not that they are not capable of a 2000 or 3000 range, but 5 or 6 
cyl Diesels are more comfortable for those trips.)


So, the last car I drive will likely be a 240D, and that is why I 
have 2 in ready reserve state.  240Ds also store well.  they can sit 
for a year or 2 at a time, then start up and go as if you only ran 
them yesterday. (provided you maintain the battery and keep the bugs 
out of the fuel.)


My replacement for 124s and 126s will be the 123.123.10  Or maybe if 
I get feeble, a 123. 123.12


for gassers, most 'merkun cars/vans are adequate.

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The W140 is a pretty reliable chassis, especially if you go for the post 
“facelift” models of 1996 and later.  The electronics are solid and the 
body/chassis/engine are robust and easy to service.

I was pretty reluctant to take one on, but now that I have two with several 
years and miles under my belt, I’m pretty comfortable with them.  Both have 
been very reliable cars and relatively trouble free considering they both now 
have over 265k on each.

Dan


 On Nov 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 and I'm not sure what I'm going to replace my W124's with when they do wear 
 out -- 250k on the TE and 410k on the 300D.
 
 Peter
 
 I figured that out just before I tried to sell the 240D.
 
 As I get older, chances are that the range I travel from home base is likely 
 to get smaller.  (assuming a normal progression)  Therefore, a 240D becomes 
 the ideal transportation for a less than 200 mile range. (not that they are 
 not capable of a 2000 or 3000 range, but 5 or 6 cyl Diesels are more 
 comfortable for those trips.)
 
 So, the last car I drive will likely be a 240D, and that is why I have 2 in 
 ready reserve state.  240Ds also store well.  they can sit for a year or 2 at 
 a time, then start up and go as if you only ran them yesterday. (provided you 
 maintain the battery and keep the bugs out of the fuel.)
 
 My replacement for 124s and 126s will be the 123.123.10  Or maybe if I get 
 feeble, a 123. 123.12
 
 for gassers, most 'merkun cars/vans are adequate.
 
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The W140 is a pretty reliable chassis, especially if you go for the 
post facelift models of 1996 and later.  The electronics are solid 
and the body/chassis/engine are robust and easy to service.


I was pretty reluctant to take one on, but now that I have two with 
several years and miles under my belt, I'm pretty comfortable with 
them.  Both have been very reliable cars and relatively trouble free 
considering they both now have over 265k on each.


Dan


But those are both smelly gassers aren't they?

(Real Mercedes run on Diesel Fuel)

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
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Curly is really Loren, right?

Yes. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:22:05 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Its interesting how many are listed because of some infotainment problem
 (Navigation, bluetooth, etc).  Seeing as the quality of these features
 for the US in the S class have been largely my responsibility over the
 last 4 years or so, I'm quite pleased :-)

Congratulations! Way to go!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They are, but since the diesel W140s have been less than reliable with the 
engine choice they offered, there’s something to be said for vergassers in this 
case.  Don’t think there are very many W140 oil burners that have 270k on their 
clocks with the original engines.  Fuel is cheaper, too.

And mine don’t smell.  At least I’ve never smelled them.

Dan



 On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The W140 is a pretty reliable chassis, especially if you go for the post 
 facelift models of 1996 and later.  The electronics are solid and the 
 body/chassis/engine are robust and easy to service.
 
 I was pretty reluctant to take one on, but now that I have two with several 
 years and miles under my belt, I'm pretty comfortable with them.  Both have 
 been very reliable cars and relatively trouble free considering they both 
 now have over 265k on each.
 
 Dan
 
 But those are both smelly gassers aren't they?
 
 (Real Mercedes run on Diesel Fuel)


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[MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[OK Don via Mercedes]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2
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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2



Still better than a cheep or a FIat

But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. 
Too much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.


AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of 
the newer ones.



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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

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Amen.
On Nov 21, 2014 9:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-
 BBezB2q#image=2
 


 Still better than a cheep or a FIat

 But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too
 much un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.

 AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the
 newer ones.


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Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars

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Curly is really Loren, right?

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 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q#image=2
 
 
 Still better than a cheep or a FIat
 
 But why I still believe the 126 was the last reliable big Mercedes. Too much 
 un-neede electronic BS on all the later ones.
 
 AND the 126, designed in 1976, is still better looking than any of the newer 
 ones.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Preservation class

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Fly me in - will travel anywhere!

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:24 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And where do you have your car judged?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:18 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
  MBCA is trying to promote not buggering up old cars.  This is a new
 promotion that allows you to have the car looked at in a concours sort of
 manner to verify condition and that it is being kept sort of pure.  You get
 leeway for headlights, some other stuff.  As long as you score above 75%,
 you get a nice framable certificate.  Come back each year to show you are
 still a good person worthy of owning a Benz
 
  clay
 
 
 
  On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
  What's a preservation class certificate?
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
  Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate.  Nice
 enough.  Has a picture of the car and all.  Seems I have not buggered it up
 beyond salvation in the past three years.  Now I just have to get it
 running properly.
 
  clay
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Re: [MBZ] Preservation class

[clay via Mercedes]

MBCA is trying to promote not buggering up old cars.  This is a new promotion 
that allows you to have the car looked at in a concours sort of manner to 
verify condition and that it is being kept sort of pure.  You get leeway for 
headlights, some other stuff.  As long as you score above 75%, you get a nice 
framable certificate.  Come back each year to show you are still a good person 
worthy of owning a Benz

clay



On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 What's a preservation class certificate?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate.  Nice 
 enough.  Has a picture of the car and all.  Seems I have not buggered it up 
 beyond salvation in the past three years.  Now I just have to get it running 
 properly.
 
 clay
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Re: [MBZ] Preservation class

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And where do you have your car judged?

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 On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:18 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 MBCA is trying to promote not buggering up old cars.  This is a new promotion 
 that allows you to have the car looked at in a concours sort of manner to 
 verify condition and that it is being kept sort of pure.  You get leeway for 
 headlights, some other stuff.  As long as you score above 75%, you get a nice 
 framable certificate.  Come back each year to show you are still a good 
 person worthy of owning a Benz
 
 clay
 
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 What's a preservation class certificate?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate.  Nice 
 enough.  Has a picture of the car and all.  Seems I have not buggered it up 
 beyond salvation in the past three years.  Now I just have to get it 
 running properly.
 
 clay
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[MBZ] Preservation class

[clay via Mercedes]

Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate.  Nice enough.  
Has a picture of the car and all.  Seems I have not buggered it up beyond 
salvation in the past three years.  Now I just have to get it running properly.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] Preservation class

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Attaboy!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What's a preservation class certificate?

 Dan


 On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate.  Nice
 enough.  Has a picture of the car and all.  Seems I have not buggered it up
 beyond salvation in the past three years.  Now I just have to get it
 running properly.
 
  clay
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[MBZ] S-class auto park

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

MBUSA have posted a vid on FB of an S-class parallel parking itself.

   In a tight spot? No longer. Thanks to available Parktronic with
   Active Park Assist, the S-Class lessens the worry of finding,
   entering, and exiting parking spaces -- whether parallel or
   perpendicular. Using advanced ultrasonic sensors, the S-Class is
   able to park itself upon the driver's command, without any human
   input. See it in action in this video.


I guess it kinda goes with their target demographic, at least from what 
I see around here.


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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[Dieselhead]

Depends on what you call S Class -- there has been a S chassis 
(for heavy) since at least 1953.


That would be the 22S in a couple variants and the 280S.

Peter


what about the typ SS and the subsequent typ SSK?

Those are S class in my book.

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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[Mitch Haley]

If W222 is the sixth S-Class, does that make W116 the first?

116,126,140,220,221,222

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[Peter Frederick]

Depends on what you call S Class -- there has been a S chassis (for  
heavy) since at least 1953.


That would be the 22S in a couple variants and the 280S.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[Rich Thomas]

I'll wait for the S65

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On 7/4/13 12:00 AM, OK Don wrote:

Step right up, get yours while it's hot! Everyone needs one of these!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1306_2014_mercedes_benz_s550_first_drive/




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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[WILTON]

Ugh -- silver - gonna hafta let it go.   ;)

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] S class road test



Step right up, get yours while it's hot! Everyone needs one of these!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1306_2014_mercedes_benz_s550_first_drive/

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] S class road test

[OK Don]

I suspect that you can order it in other colors ---


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Ugh -- silver - gonna hafta let it go.   ;)

 Wilton



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[MBZ] S class road test

[OK Don]

Step right up, get yours while it's hot! Everyone needs one of these!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1306_2014_mercedes_benz_s550_first_drive/

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2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] S-class evolution

[Rich Thomas]

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.625040400857326.1073741855.112336898794348type=1

-R

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Re: [MBZ] S-class evolution

[Chris James]

Do you have a favorite S-Class? Can't decide between the '20s-'30s 
prewar models and the'70s,'80s  '90s 116, 126  140. Don't care for the 
ex-factory coachwork on the 770 shown though. 
http://www.prewarcar.com/index.php?option=com_caradvertview=adsection_id=1id=72850Itemid=212



On 4/13/2013 12:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.625040400857326.1073741855.112336898794348type=1


-R



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[MBZ] Cheap class

[Dieselhead]

2008 GL320 CDI was MSRP at 53.775

2008 C300 was MSPR at $31,600

Seems that makes the C300 cheap in 2008 as well as in 2012.

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Re: [MBZ] BAS class snobbery

[Hendrik Fay]

See I am not greedy, I'd settle for an Diesel E wagon if the MB fairy 
left one in the drive.

http://www2.mercedes-benz.com.au/content/australia/mpc/mpc_australia__website/en/home_mpc/passengercars/home/new_cars/models/e-class/_s212/facts_/engines/dieselengines.html
Did I mention it has two Lanchester balance shafts, whatever they might be.
Pretty impressive what they can pull out of a 2.1 litre Diesel these days.
And for those who don't believe in the Benz fairy 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jdQPg08orofeature=youtu.behd=1


Hendrik
who is having his 42 or 43rd b day today

On 13/05/12 21:23, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Agreed... I've experienced all the BAS stuff, and modern presafe features
in the latest S class.  When you experience them, its very impressive.  You
start to understand why modern cars as so much safer than ones from just a
few years ago.  They do things you can't and react faster than you can.

If I could afford it, my wife and 1year old son would be driving around in
a new S class and nothing else.

Jaime







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