we pump theirs.
Thats cool, lets pump theirs. When its all gone we can get ours.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:29:17 -0400
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You just made my case. Anything less than 5 years of oil isn't squat. We'll
burn
Wrong - the price of oil is only now starting to rise to the pain
point (it's not there yet, it's just to the bitching point), before
we'll get serious about finding/building serious alternatives.
Yes - we need to do some serious work on the nuclear waste problem,
then get those nuke plants cranki
You just made my case. Anything less than 5 years of oil isn't squat. We'll
burn it all in a couple years and then what have we got? Less than nothing...
-Curt
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> BUT! The citizens of Va *should* decide what happens in her
> coastal
> waters - not representatives from other states..
So long as VA's actions don't impinge upon NC, for example.
But the possibility of a nice drifting oil slick carries
the question right into Federal jurisdiction, and pr
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> Bill R. wrote: &qu
8, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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it is kind of odd that we still occupy those countries after all these years
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donald Snook wrote:
>
> > How many times does the house need to have another vote to establish a
> > withdrawal date for Iraq when each time it
Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been thinking about that a lot lately. It seems like the only
> reason to keep our bases in those places is so we can play "World's
> policeman" which is a role we're not particularly good at
OTOH we're better at it than anyone else.
Allan
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:04:07 -0500 Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The "information barriers" were NOT put in place by Clinton
Au contraire, there were indeed information barriers put in place by
Clinton. And don't get me started on what that woman he put in charge of
the Deparement
Of Curt Raymond
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I've been thinking about that a lot lately. It seems like the only reason to
keep our bases in those places is so we can play "World's p
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:54:39 -0400
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Donald Snook wrote:
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Bill R. wrote: "I had an 'interesting'
Donald Snook wrote:
> In 1998, he said that ANWAR would be off-limits and he justified his
> decision by saying that it would take 8 years to get the oil out of
> the ground and into the stream of commerce. I don't know about you,
> but I sure do wish that 8 years ago, we had done that. Because it
Donald Snook wrote:
> How many times does the house need to have another vote to establish a
> withdrawal date for Iraq when each time it failed.
I'm wondering when they will establish a withdrawal date for Germany,
Japan, and Korea.
Mitch.
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Bill R. wrote: "I had an 'interesting' conversation with a conservative a
couple of months ago. He was absolutely convinced that none of the current
problems have anything to do with Bush, but were all actually the fault of
Clinton."
Here is another conservative offering another perspective.
out 20 years.]
BillR
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That problem has been around for at least 40 years that I kno
That problem has been around for at least 40 years that I know of
personally by reading the news, and I'd bet it goes back much longer
than that. Why do people blame everything on Clinton?
Peter
On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:01 AM, John Robbins wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>> But the Republican
John Robbins wrote:
> I wasn't around to know anything about this, but could that be explained
> by fighting amongst the CIA, FBI, etc?
Sometimes it seems like getting a better appropriation is more important
than doing their jobs, doesn't it? The whole point of the Waco slaughter
was to have a
Craig McCluskey wrote:
> But the Republican presidents would not have errected barriers to
> information transfer between the CIA and the FBI, among other things.
I wasn't around to know anything about this, but could that be explained
by fighting amongst the CIA, FBI, etc?
John
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Craig McCluskey wrote:
> You mean that Reid fellow in Congress?
I don't recall hearing about the Clinton Department of Defense going after
soldiers demanding they repay their enlistment bonuses because they became
crippled on duty and couldn't serve their full terms.
_
The current Republican president ignored what information did get
through, especially the part about airplanes flown into buildings.
Read Dick Clark's book, and he's not the only source. There are no
surprises in the gang of terrorists we raised in Afganistan, we've
known who they were fo
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:00:53 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as ability to protect our own sovereign soil is concerned, I
> believe the USA military is currently in the worst shape it's been in
> for decades. Can't blame Clinton for that either. Mr "You support our
> troops w
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:38:45 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donald Snook wrote:
> > I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing
> > Americans in the WTC on Sept 11,
> 2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches
> of the CIA.
>
>
>
I think the official term is "blowback".
We are reaping quite a bit of the harvest we sowed during the "cold
war" -- much of which was to benefit the makers of military equipment.
I won't contiue, it's been a good day and I don't want to mess it up.
Peter
On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Ha
Donald Snook wrote:
> I agree with you that it would have been damn near impossible to prevent the
> actual acts on September 11th once the plan was in action. But, bin Laden was
> getting more and more bold in his plans and Clinton didn't do enough to stop
> him. That is what happens when you c
Mitch wrote: "If you think any of the Repugnant party presidents of the last 30
years could have prevented those plane crashes, you're nuts enough to support
the so-called Patriot Act."
I agree with you that it would have been damn near impossible to prevent the
actual acts on September 11th on
Donald Snook wrote:
> That is a dumb argument, Mitch. Because the congress passed drug
> money seizure laws and most other states followed you blame President
> Reagan?
>
> How about the 1993 Bombing of the World Trade Center? Clinton was
> president. He was cutting defense spending dramaticall
Donald Snook wrote:
> I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing Americans in
the WTC on Sept 11,
2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches of the
CIA.
The asset theft ring known as the DEA really got going in the Reagan era, but
Clinton expan
"I forgot to add, Mr Reagan preferred outright theft of private property, aka
forfeiture, to taxation. http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson9.html";
That is a dumb argument, Mitch. Because the congress passed drug money seizure
laws and most other states followed you blame President Reag
Mitch Haley wrote:
> Donald Snook wrote:
>> 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
>> If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops
>> moving, subsidize it.'
>
> I don't know if it was original to him, but Ronald Reagan said that.
I
Donald Snook wrote:
>
> 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
> If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving,
> subsidize it.'
I don't know if it was original to him, but Ronald Reagan said that.
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Mitch wrote: "Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where
it is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The
problem is coming to an agreement over just what is a necessary gov't function."
I think it is time for some wisdom from someone who has offere
> Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where it
> is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The
> problem is coming to an agreement over just what is a necessary gov't
> function.
If more people would actually think about the fact that any
government
Peter Frederick wrote:
> Government is NOT evil, it's what makes the difference between
> civilization and plain chaos.
Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where it
is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The
problem is coming to an agreement ov
Or, in fact, the suburbs of any major city in the US. LA in
particular had a superb transit system until GM bought it in the
early 50's. Gone in a few years, replaced with endless concrete.
Transit systems won't make money when people can also drive, as it
both lowers ridership and cause
List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
suggesting for 30 years or more)
Stop building roads, of any kind, at once. Spend the highway trust
fund money on de-suburbanization -- for an example, take a look at
any
Frederick
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:50 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
>
> Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
> suggesting for 30 years or more)
>
> Stop building roads, of any kin
] Another reason to stay home
So the government should step in and solve all our problems?
Peter Frederick wrote:
> Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
> suggesting for 30 years or more)
>
> Stop building roads, of any kind, at once. Spend the highw
other reason to stay home
Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
suggesting for 30 years or more)
Stop building roads, of any kind, at once. Spend the highway trust
fund money on de-suburbanization -- for an example, take a look at
any community near a large
n, 6/22/08, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home...or take a cruise
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 8:04 AM
If you are going to the right spot,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home...
Can anyone explain the rationale behind this one? Why would United want me
to fly LESS? I don't understand this one at all...
Is it just to make me upgrade to a flight class that doesn't have a
restriction?
Somehow I think that Uni
i don't fly anymore. even if you buy a first class ticket, airlines still
treat you like garbage and i'm more than a little tired of playing the
"homeland security" fraud.
what has been most remarkable to me is that the masses have been so pacified
and stupified that they just happily go along wi
> > That is the reason we HAVE a government.
>
>
> I'm sure you get a strong difference of opinion about that with some
> people on the list.
This is where I beg to differ. The purpose of the government is to get
things done for the common good. Your gov't built the interstate
system, remember?
Dear Airline Industry,
I am sick of being treated either like a criminal,
or like a fool, or both. I do not feel safer, I do
not feel better served, I do not feel like giving you
any money. Screw you.
-- Jim
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are you going to tell us also that the police are a think blue line
separating peace from anarchy?
there are not many problems with our society that do not have government as
the root cause.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> That is the reason we HAVE
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:56:30 -0500 Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:44:11 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > So the government should step in and solve all our problems?
>
> That is the reason we HAVE a government.
I'm sure you get a
That is the reason we HAVE a government. We elect them, we should
hold their feet to the fire and get some things fixed for US, not
just the rich people who fund their election campaigns.
Government is NOT evil, it's what makes the difference between
civilization and plain chaos.
Peter
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> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:52:26 -0400 "Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Wonder if they'll get around to "stand-up" seating?
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/business/25seats.html
>
> Correction: May 4, 2006
> A front-page article on April 25 about seating options that airlines are
> consid
So the government should step in and solve all our problems?
Peter Frederick wrote:
> Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
> suggesting for 30 years or more)
>
> Stop building roads, of any kind, at once. Spend the highway trust
> fund money on de-suburbanization -
I think many people are just too stupid to care. They are worried more
about things like getting more wind power, or solar power, or buying
hybrids than addressing the real problem.
Wilton Strickland wrote:
> A nother sign of the SERIOUS trouble we're ALL in, and nobody seems to care.
>
> Wilt
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:52:26 -0400 "Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wonder if they'll get around to "stand-up" seating?
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/business/25seats.html
Correction: May 4, 2006
A front-page article on April 25 about seating options that airlines are
considering to a
They're going the way, they should offer beds not seats...
Rack about 4 high. I'd put up with a navy style rack to lie in during a 5 hour
flight...
-Curt
--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another rea
Wonder if they'll get around to "stand-up" seating?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/business/25seats.html
Gerry
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From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An airline needs to go out of business... Theres too much drive to push
> prices down and too many idio
Well, there is a solution (actually, the same one I've been
suggesting for 30 years or more)
Stop building roads, of any kind, at once. Spend the highway trust
fund money on de-suburbanization -- for an example, take a look at
any community near a large city built before 1948 -- a main
>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List"
Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:22 PM
The airlines, who have NEVER made money, even with the massive
subsidies they get, are bleeding so badly they have to restrict
flights t
A nother sign of the SERIOUS trouble we're ALL in, and nobody seems to care.
Wilton
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The airlines, who have NEVER made money, even with the massive
subsidies they get, are bleeding so badly they have to restrict
flights to reduce the amount of fuel they use.
The idea is to stabilize return trips and reduce the number of one-
way trips to maximize the number of passengers on e
y's
money...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:48:38 EDT
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NEW YORK -- United Airlines said Friday it will sta
NEW YORK -- United Airlines said Friday it will start requiring minimum stays
for nearly all domestic coach seats beginning in October. It also is raising
its cheapest fares by as much as $90 one-way.
The second-largest U.S. carrier said the moves are among a number of changes,
including flight
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