Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Somehow I dont think the aviation community is going to drink the kool aid. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Ah, I didn't see that you'd fixed it, and that I'd screwed it up. Thanks. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:13 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-09-19 10:52, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the > > angle > > of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. > > That's why I fixed it for you when you said "but not so far forward that > you can't lift the tail with the elevator." > > I suppose I could have fixed it better by simply changing "tail" to > "nose". > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 10:52, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the angle of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. That's why I fixed it for you when you said "but not so far forward that you can't lift the tail with the elevator." I suppose I could have fixed it better by simply changing "tail" to "nose". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the angle of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 10:50 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-09-19 10:45, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward > > that > > you can't push the tail down with the elevator. > > > FIFY. > Oh, well. The other day in another internet group, I said east of the > Mississippi when referring to the western side of the country. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 10:45, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward that you can't push the tail down with the elevator. FIFY. Oh, well. The other day in another internet group, I said east of the Mississippi when referring to the western side of the country. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
No Intentional spins - it is hard to recover from them. Solo from the rear seat only - weight and balance is very critical for flight. Without someone in the rear seat, there is not enough elevator authority to take-off or climb, perhaps to even maintain level flight. The CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward that you can't lift the tail with the elevator. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 10:34 AM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:36:04 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > > I noticed two interesting placards on the instrument panel: > > - NO INTENTIONAL SPINS > > - SOLO FROM REAR SEAT ONLY > > Why these restrictions? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:36:04 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ I noticed two interesting placards on the instrument panel: - NO INTENTIONAL SPINS - SOLO FROM REAR SEAT ONLY Why these restrictions? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 08:03:33 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Craig needs this: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-alfa-romeo-4c-coupe-2/ Sure, if you will buy it for me and pay the insurance! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 06:47, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Man, BAT is really branching out. But you can still buy a Cosworth-Mercedes there. Those are not 1986 headlights. They look like the lights on my 1987 Turbo. It looks like I need to sink some $$ into restoring my black 5sp 1986. But mine's only 15 years owned and I haven't swapped in a 100k odometer. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-190e-2-3-16-47/ Craig needs this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-alfa-romeo-4c-coupe-2/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Man, BAT is really branching out. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 3:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Coworker at Kohler had one of these that he restored. I got to fly in it a couple of times. Definitely an experience everyone should have at least once. -D > On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > 3 days remaining on the BAT sale... and $65,000 is cheap in today's market, > presuming it has good logs and engine time remaining, etc etc.. > > If you can fly this airplane your next issue airplane is a P51 single seat > fighter, no instructor... get in, fire it up, and learn how to fight with > it... > A.. the days when men were men... > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
3 days remaining on the BAT sale... and $65,000 is cheap in today's market, presuming it has good logs and engine time remaining, etc etc.. If you can fly this airplane your next issue airplane is a P51 single seat fighter, no instructor... get in, fire it up, and learn how to fight with it... A.. the days when men were men... On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
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