Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Hans Neureiter]

Matra/Simca put a turbo on a 4 cyl  F1 about 1965. Rules stipulated that
a CAI motor can only be half of the displacement of a NA motor. And they
won.
My dad hd a '30's? Citroen C 4. What a car! Than he bought a ID 19 (60?,
hydraulic suspension, 1-spoke sterring wheel, luminescent roof, what noit).
When I watch the show where 'Jane Patrik' drives the DS21, I cry.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM, E M  wrote:

> The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of
> engineering.  Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway.  Still, they
> had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building
> light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were
> buses in Bugatti's opinion.  Then he built the Royals, which made the
> Bentleys look like compacts. hee hee.  But he never intended those to be
> race cars.  The machine turning on the engines was a nice touch too.
>
> The French have built some of the most beautiful cars over the years.  I'm
> pretty sure credit can be given to them, for starting the whole "concours"
> thing , which we later turned into "cruise night" ;-) hee hee
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 21:05, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>
> > That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for
> > Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French
> > friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> >
> > I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:
> >
> >   Heaven Is Where:
> >
> >   The French are the chefs
> >   The Italians are the lovers
> >   The British are the police
> >   The Germans are the mechanics
> >   And the Swiss make everything run on time
> >
> >   Hell is Where:
> >
> >   The British are the chefs
> >   The Swiss are the lovers
> >   The French are the mechanics
> >   The Italians make everything run on time
> >   And the Germans are the police
> >
> > E M  writes:
> >
> > The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> > styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> > years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> > longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> > ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
> >
> > BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> > Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> > Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger
> car,
> > ahead of  Daimler Benz.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
> >
> > They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> > diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> > sure
> > it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> > like YouTube and the internet now.
> >
> > If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> > one
> > too.
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> >
> > Allan Streib wrote:
> >
> > Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> > diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
> >
> >
> > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> > Decades apart, in other words.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Dimitri Seretakis]

He's one badass mofo that can fix or make or build or modify anything Mercedes!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Hans Neureiter  wrote:

Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael )
If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what
I'd use.



On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and
iron.

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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[E M]

The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of
engineering.  Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway.  Still, they
had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building
light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were
buses in Bugatti's opinion.  Then he built the Royals, which made the
Bentleys look like compacts. hee hee.  But he never intended those to be
race cars.  The machine turning on the engines was a nice touch too.

The French have built some of the most beautiful cars over the years.  I'm
pretty sure credit can be given to them, for starting the whole "concours"
thing , which we later turned into "cruise night" ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 21:05, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

> That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for
> Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French
> friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>
> I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:
>
>   Heaven Is Where:
>
>   The French are the chefs
>   The Italians are the lovers
>   The British are the police
>   The Germans are the mechanics
>   And the Swiss make everything run on time
>
>   Hell is Where:
>
>   The British are the chefs
>   The Swiss are the lovers
>   The French are the mechanics
>   The Italians make everything run on time
>   And the Germans are the police
>
> E M  writes:
>
> The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
>
> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> sure
> it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> like YouTube and the internet now.
>
> If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> one
> too.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>
> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
>
>
> 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> Decades apart, in other words.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> __**_
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[E M]

lol, I'll have to copy and save that one!  :-)

Don't know about the cars though, there are a few I'd love to own.  One of
my neighbours bought an old DS a few years back, and drives it in the
summer.  I would love to have that car!!!  So advanced for it's time, and
is still super cool today.  For me, a DS over a Ferrari for coolness any
day! :-)

I think the French were pretty creative engineers over the years.  They had
a hand in that plane, the Concorde, and as far as I know, they were the
first ones crazy enough to bolt a turbo to an F1 car engine.  I saw one of
those engines once up close.  They only lasted 2 hours, (about as long as
any of them lasted) but they were making 1000+ in race trim, and
1200-1400+? in qualifying trim.  Not bad for 1.5 litres.

And even if you don't like their cars, all is forgive of them, once you
taste their wine and cheeses.  Their girls are pretty cute too. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 20:43, Allan Streib  wrote:

> I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:
>
>Heaven Is Where:
>
>The French are the chefs
>The Italians are the lovers
>The British are the police
>The Germans are the mechanics
>And the Swiss make everything run on time
>
>Hell is Where:
>
>The British are the chefs
>The Swiss are the lovers
>The French are the mechanics
>The Italians make everything run on time
>And the Germans are the police
>
> E M  writes:
>
> > The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> > styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> > years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> > longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> > ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
> >
> >> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> >> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> >> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger
> car,
> >> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
> >>
> >> > They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> >> > diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> >> sure
> >> > it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with
> things
> >> > like YouTube and the internet now.
> >> >
> >> > If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> >> one
> >> > too.
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> > 300E
> >> >
> >> > On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Allan Streib wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in
> their
> >> > >> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300
> SDL.
> >> > > Decades apart, in other words.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mitch.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > __**_
> >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >> > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
> >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<
> >> > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>
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> >>
> >>
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> >> '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Hans Neureiter]

Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael )
If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what
I'd use.



On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and
> iron.
>
> --
> Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
> '82 300SD
> '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI
>
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Hans Neureiter]

Imagination is one thing. Experience is another.

The French can't cook. The Italians do.
The Swiss can count money, so do the Germans
And the Brits built some of the best looking cars in the past, non of them
fit to go past towing distance from the garage.



On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for
> Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French
> friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>
> I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:
>
>   Heaven Is Where:
>


> The French are the chefs
>   The Italians are the lovers
>   The British are the police
>   The Germans are the mechanics
>   And the Swiss make everything run on time
>
>
>
> Hell is Where:
>
>   The British are the chefs
>   The Swiss are the lovers
>   The French are the mechanics
>   The Italians make everything run on time
>   And the Germans are the police
>
> E M  writes:
>
>  The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
>
> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> sure
> it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> like YouTube and the internet now.
>
> If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> one
> too.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>
> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
>
>
> 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> Decades apart, in other words.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> __**_
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[andrew strasfogel]

Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti 
> and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC 
> and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>
> I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:
>
>   Heaven Is Where:
>
>   The French are the chefs
>   The Italians are the lovers
>   The British are the police
>   The Germans are the mechanics
>   And the Swiss make everything run on time
>
>   Hell is Where:
>
>   The British are the chefs
>   The Swiss are the lovers
>   The French are the mechanics
>   The Italians make everything run on time
>   And the Germans are the police
>
> E M  writes:
>
> The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
>
> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> sure
> it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> like YouTube and the internet now.
>
> If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> one
> too.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>
> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Dimitri Seretakis]

That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti 
and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and 
he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:

   Heaven Is Where:

   The French are the chefs
   The Italians are the lovers
   The British are the police
   The Germans are the mechanics
   And the Swiss make everything run on time

   Hell is Where:

   The British are the chefs
   The Swiss are the lovers
   The French are the mechanics
   The Italians make everything run on time
   And the Germans are the police

E M  writes:

The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:

BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
ahead of  Daimler Benz.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:

They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
sure
it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
like YouTube and the internet now.

If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
one
too.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:

Allan Streib wrote:

Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?


335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
Decades apart, in other words.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Hans Neureiter]

Boxy, maybe, but they had that strangely slopng rear end. One had to get
used to it.
Last one I had was a '82. Traded it in for a used 123 in '86 + a ton of
cash.
Resale value of these cars was zip.
When it comes to Ero's, here is my take:
Brits - non exist, barely
Germans - Over priced and over engineered
Italians - the very opposite (except for things on stroids and the latest
500 joke)
French - well made affordabele transportation devices
My $0.02.


On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, E M  wrote:

> The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
>
> > BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> > Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> > Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger
> car,
> > ahead of  Daimler Benz.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
> >
> > > They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> > > diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> > sure
> > > it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with
> things
> > > like YouTube and the internet now.
> > >
> > > If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> > one
> > > too.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > > 300E
> > >
> > > On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Allan Streib wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in
> their
> > > >> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300
> SDL.
> > > > Decades apart, in other words.
> > > >
> > > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Allan Streib]

I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:

Heaven Is Where:

The French are the chefs
The Italians are the lovers
The British are the police
The Germans are the mechanics
And the Swiss make everything run on time

Hell is Where:

The British are the chefs
The Swiss are the lovers
The French are the mechanics
The Italians make everything run on time
And the Germans are the police

E M  writes:

> The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
> styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
> years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
> longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
> ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:
>
>> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
>> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
>> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
>> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>>
>> > They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
>> > diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
>> sure
>> > it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
>> > like YouTube and the internet now.
>> >
>> > If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
>> one
>> > too.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> > 300E
>> >
>> > On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Allan Streib wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
>> > >> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
>> > > Decades apart, in other words.
>> > >
>> > > Mitch.
>> > >
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[E M]

The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter  wrote:

> BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
> Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
> Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
> ahead of  Daimler Benz.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> > They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> > diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
> sure
> > it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> > like YouTube and the internet now.
> >
> > If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
> one
> > too.
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> >
> > > Allan Streib wrote:
> > >
> > >> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> > >> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
> > >>
> > >
> > > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> > > Decades apart, in other words.
> > >
> > > Mitch.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Hans Neureiter]

BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
ahead of  Daimler Benz.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M  wrote:

> They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
> diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm sure
> it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
> like YouTube and the internet now.
>
> If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one
> too.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> > Allan Streib wrote:
> >
> >> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
> >> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
> >>
> >
> > 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> > Decades apart, in other words.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[E M]

They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm sure
it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
like YouTube and the internet now.

If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one
too.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
>> diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
>>
>
> 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
> Decades apart, in other words.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?


335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
Decades apart, in other words.

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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Allan Streib]

Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?

Head gasket was a trouble spot on those.

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be 
> very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel.
> If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one 
> up.
> -Curt
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500
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> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru.  Any
> thoughts as to reliability, etc.?
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

[Curt Raymond]

They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be 
very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel.
If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one 
up.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru.  Any
thoughts as to reliability, etc.?
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[MBZ] BMW diesels (was: My new car!)

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond  writes:

> There've been lots of ads...

Not around here.  Though I've canceled all but basic cable TV so I only
see local advertising for the most part.

Allan

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