[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's true - my Mercedes takes speed bumps and RR tracks better at 45 MPH than
at 25 MPH.
Mine takes the 15 mph speed humps on a nearby street pretty
comfortably at 25 mph, but that provokes an interesting set of noises
from the front end, so I tend to limit myself to
Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don wrote:
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?
Yeah, and hate to fart in church, but IIRC back in the days of the 'other'
Mercedes list, a couple of
Uh ... I am due for new shocks. Can I take that a Gospel? grin
On 10/18/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
YES! CAPITALS, double strike, emphasis, italic
a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25
year old car?
Marshall -
I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math
courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with
lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math
problem to follow.
Now, I realize that you are mature individual,
LT Don wrote:
Marshall -
I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math
courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with
lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is a different thread. Math
problem to follow.
Now, I realize that you are
Damn.
Don
On 10/19/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LT Don wrote:
Marshall -
I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math
courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS
with
lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But that is
As far as I understand, the Bilsteins/Boge shocks are damped in both
directions of travel whereas the crappy aftermarket ones aren't.
Read that somewhere via a link from someone on this list in the last year.
You ask a question; you get an answer... not always the one you
wanted but an
I can vouch for Marshall's experience. I've owned 15 Mercedes and have
replaced shocks in about . 18 Mercedes, including the ones on my oldest
Son's cars. The youngest Mercedes I've bought to date had 135,000 miles on
the clock and in every case, I replaced the original shocks. Most had
Shocks aren't really shocks. They are motion dampers that absorb the up
down motion of the car body they convert 100% of the motion they dampen into
heat. Just drive your car a few miles then pull over carefully touch one of
your shocks.
All shocks that I know of are dampened in both
we ...can put a ...shortblock chevy engine in these
and these run with out heads? these danm cars ARE remarkable
h
collins
1985 500 sec
It's true - my Mercedes takes speed bumps and RR tracks better at 45 MPH than
at 25 MPH.
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
Quoting OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've been told, but have never tried to verify, that a Mercedes has
more suspension travel than most cars, and is designed to use that
range
In a message dated 10/18/2005 9:28:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marshall -
I suck at math. That is why I took my first degree in Music -- no math
courses required. Strange that I took my next degree in Business / MIS with
lots of post-grad courses in Econ. But
Motion
1999 Mazda Miata
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Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:10:39 EDT
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
In a message dated 10/18/2005 9:28:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
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Sent: Oct 18, 2005 11:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Go with the Bilsteins and if possible and you can find them Sachs or Boge are
just as good
I have Sachs on my VW (they are standard equipment on VW's anyway) and the ride
is firm
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From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:02:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
I am looking to start pulling a small trailer on a regular basis with my '83
SD.
Has anyone looked
My 83' 300D has Gabriel's that the previous owner must have put in. What's
the opinion on these?
This being my first Benz, I'm thinking it rides about like it should (kind of
big and smooth, kinda like a boat), but I wouldn't mind a lot of firming up.
I like the car more solid feeling.
Levi
Levi Smith wrote:
My 83' 300D has Gabriel's that the previous owner must have put in. What's
the opinion on these?
Garbage, because:
This being my first Benz, I'm thinking it rides about like it should (kind of
big and smooth, kinda like a boat), but I wouldn't mind a lot of firming up.
I
My 116 came with worn out, 2-3 year old, low mileage Sears shocks on it.
Probably Monroe or Gabriel products. One of the backs was devoid of fluid,
letting the tire dribble like a basketball. The other three aren't as good
as 150kmi Bilsteins.
I think I get the idea! I shopped around, and the cheapest I could get the
Bilsteins for was around $80. I talked to my mechanic, and he said he would do
it for what I would pay for just the shocks.I'll be back to driving the 80
SD, and my kid has been warned not to tear up the 84 SD.
Just for the record, a Bilstein just failed after six months of service on
one of my 300 SDLs. The drivers side front started leaking oil but seemed
to have not lost any performance.
The amazing Gary had a new one on my porch the next day and the old one has
been returned for warranty credit.
I have a pair of Monroe's on the front of my 240D - compared to the
Bilsteins, the Monroes are almost half the diameter of the Bilsteins!!I
plan to replace them shortly.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results
My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It
looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the
shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a
third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25
year old car?
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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It
looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the
shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe
Kevin Beswick wrote:
My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It
looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the
shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a
third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter
YES! CAPITALS, double strike, emphasis, italic
a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25
year old car?
The Monroes will ride substantially worse than the worn out shocks you
have now. Bilsteins, even with abuse, should oulast your son's
interest in the car.
BTDT, will NEVER do it again. You'd be better off to weld the shocks
solid and use the tires for bounce -- at least you wouldn't expect
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/
OK Don wrote:
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for
$49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the
heavy duty or sport. You will get a
Mitch Haley wrote:
OK Don wrote:
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?
Nothing but they're harder to find and usually (but not always) more
expensive.
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don wrote:
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even
think twice about it.
What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?
Yeah, and hate to fart in church, but IIRC back in the days of the 'other'
Mercedes list, a couple of guys installed Monroes and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for
$49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the
heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee.
I personally prefer the Bilstein Heavy Duty shocks over
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:48:36PM -0400, John Ervine wrote:
What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for
$49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want
the
heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee.
I
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