Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
This one does not require DEF. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2022, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > The real question is: What caused the system that orders the DPF to go into > regen mode to fail to regen the DPF? > If it was correctly operating the DPF would have "self cleaned" on a > regular basis thus never "clogged" [I think] Thus, either the > command to regen system failed, or the owner failed to keep enough DEF in > the DEF tank, which caused the system to fail... [that should have > triggered a nanny light or alarm [I think] telling the owner to "GO FILL UP > THE DEF TANK] and pitched a code into the blinking light system [I think]. > So, the next question is, Does the engine shut down because the DPF is > plugged, or does the engine shut down because the DEF tank is empty [or the > solenoid that squirts DEF into the DPF self clean system failed and the > mighty nanny computer shuts the engine off?] > IE you don't get to limp home, call the dealer tow truck and pay the > dealer fees NOW... > only the mighty and all intelligent dealer can save you. [sarcasm intended] > >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I am not sure but it’s too plugged up to run very long. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Can you run a forced regen of the DPF? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
With regard to my Passat TDI, if the regen cycle is in progress and I have arrived at my destination, the cycle will continue even after I turn the engine off. Is that the case with MBs? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Allan Streib via MercedesSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 9:13 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Allan StreibSubject: Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes If driven on a lot of short trips the regen cycle may have been interrupted too often. On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, at 12:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:> The real question is: What caused the system that orders the DPF to go into> regen mode to fail to regen the DPF?> If it was correctly operating the DPF would have "self cleaned" on a> regular basis thus never "clogged" [I think] Thus, either the> command to regen system failed, or the owner failed to keep enough DEF in> the DEF tank, which caused the system to fail... [that should have> triggered a nanny light or alarm [I think] telling the owner to "GO FILL UP> THE DEF TANK] and pitched a code into the blinking light system [I think].> So, the next question is, Does the engine shut down because the DPF is> plugged, or does the engine shut down because the DEF tank is empty [or the> solenoid that squirts DEF into the DPF self clean system failed and the> mighty nanny computer shuts the engine off?]> IE you don't get to limp home, call the dealer tow truck and pay the> dealer fees NOW...> only the mighty and all intelligent dealer can save you. [sarcasm intended]> > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:> >> I am not sure but it’s too plugged up to run very long.>> >> Sent from my iPhone>> >> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:>> >>> > Can you run a forced regen of the DPF?>> >>> > ___>> > http://www.okiebenz.com>> >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>> >>> >> >> ___>> http://www.okiebenz.com>> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>> >> > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
If driven on a lot of short trips the regen cycle may have been interrupted too often. On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, at 12:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > The real question is: What caused the system that orders the DPF to go into > regen mode to fail to regen the DPF? > If it was correctly operating the DPF would have "self cleaned" on a > regular basis thus never "clogged" [I think] Thus, either the > command to regen system failed, or the owner failed to keep enough DEF in > the DEF tank, which caused the system to fail... [that should have > triggered a nanny light or alarm [I think] telling the owner to "GO FILL UP > THE DEF TANK] and pitched a code into the blinking light system [I think]. > So, the next question is, Does the engine shut down because the DPF is > plugged, or does the engine shut down because the DEF tank is empty [or the > solenoid that squirts DEF into the DPF self clean system failed and the > mighty nanny computer shuts the engine off?] > IE you don't get to limp home, call the dealer tow truck and pay the > dealer fees NOW... > only the mighty and all intelligent dealer can save you. [sarcasm intended] > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I am not sure but it’s too plugged up to run very long. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Can you run a forced regen of the DPF? >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
The real question is: What caused the system that orders the DPF to go into regen mode to fail to regen the DPF? If it was correctly operating the DPF would have "self cleaned" on a regular basis thus never "clogged" [I think] Thus, either the command to regen system failed, or the owner failed to keep enough DEF in the DEF tank, which caused the system to fail... [that should have triggered a nanny light or alarm [I think] telling the owner to "GO FILL UP THE DEF TANK] and pitched a code into the blinking light system [I think]. So, the next question is, Does the engine shut down because the DPF is plugged, or does the engine shut down because the DEF tank is empty [or the solenoid that squirts DEF into the DPF self clean system failed and the mighty nanny computer shuts the engine off?] IE you don't get to limp home, call the dealer tow truck and pay the dealer fees NOW... only the mighty and all intelligent dealer can save you. [sarcasm intended] On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am not sure but it’s too plugged up to run very long. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Can you run a forced regen of the DPF? > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
I am not sure but it’s too plugged up to run very long. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Can you run a forced regen of the DPF? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
Can you run a forced regen of the DPF? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
https://www.dieselusa.com/dpf_cleaning.html https://www.dpfregeneration.com/ Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 1, 2022 5:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes Yea, from what I am finding just the delete pipe is $700, before even getting into the tune. On 7/1/2022 5:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Either delete and new tune, or I found a few places that can clean them. Just > cutting them off with no tune won't work well I suspect. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 1, 2022 4:41 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] Bluetec codes > > See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as suspected. > Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling in driveway > it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the end would > start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF is > choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. > > [cid:5467e6b9-98a3-4947-99a4-bd72109a43b6@namprd11.prod.outlook.com] > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
Yea, from what I am finding just the delete pipe is $700, before even getting into the tune. On 7/1/2022 5:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Either delete and new tune, or I found a few places that can clean them. Just cutting them off with no tune won't work well I suspect. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 1, 2022 4:41 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] Bluetec codes See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as suspected. Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling in driveway it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the end would start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF is choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. [cid:5467e6b9-98a3-4947-99a4-bd72109a43b6@namprd11.prod.outlook.com] Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
Either delete and new tune, or I found a few places that can clean them. Just cutting them off with no tune won't work well I suspect. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 1, 2022 4:41 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] Bluetec codes See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as suspected. Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling in driveway it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the end would start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF is choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. [cid:5467e6b9-98a3-4947-99a4-bd72109a43b6@namprd11.prod.outlook.com] Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec codes
Can you take it off and see how it runs? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jul 1, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as > suspected. Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling > in driveway it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the > end would start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF > is choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bluetec codes
See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as suspected. Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling in driveway it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the end would start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF is choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bluetec codes
See attached for codes. Appears to be o2 sensor related and DPF as suspected. Of I cleared coded and took it down the street. No power. Pulling in driveway it died. Restarted, died a couple of minutes later. Toward the end would start then die within 5-10 seconds. I’m assuming the plugged up DPF is choking it off. Probably needs a DPF delete. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
