John,
Sorry for the late reply, catching up on digest.
My understanding of the problem is that the glowplug design or the head design
is faulty and allows a ring of carbon to form that is too big to fit out of the
hole that the glow-plug must. You need to apply a good penetrating oil that
Andrew wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon,
but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly.
Different strokes - I think the 123 wagon is good looking. It has a certain
country home status symbol look to it. But, I think the 124 is better looking
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a wonderful highway car.
When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1
preferred car by both of us.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing...
Not normally, but I believe it could be ordered with it.
-- Jim
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I have seen several 126 gassers with it. I always thaought a 126
with hydraulic suspension would be nice. However a 126 on springs is
still as good as or better riding than a 123 with SLS. I've had
both; several 123 wagons. The 126 wins, hands down.
At 10:04 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
never
driven a 124 wagon though.
Theres one for sale not far from here. Maybe I should dump my 240D (in the near
to mid term plan) and get that.
-Curt
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Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell
it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet.
Is it a 124 300D 2.5?
Donald H. Snook
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car by both of us.
-Curt
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I wouldn't go so far
a wonderful highway car.
When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car
by both of us.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600
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what the heck are you talking about? Wherever you are finding these 124
diesel wagons that are cheaper than 123 diesel wagons, let me know so I
can buy them.
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Which will be collectible - the 124 wagon? If so then why are their prices
lower compared to the more
yes
Donald Snook wrote:
Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it.
Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet.
Is it a 124 300D 2.5?
Donald H. Snook
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LarryT wrote:
I've had good luck with left handed drill bits - often will break the
fastener loose while drilling - (vibrations?) and use a lubricant while
drilling.
I think it's more shrinkage as the male threads weaken and collapse when you
hollow the bolt out. If you can get dead center,
in considerably better condition than
my old one.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:48:05 -0500
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I would have to respectfully disagree. The best MB diesel ever made was the
W23 turbodiesel wagon. What a great combination of durability, fuel
economy, practicality, and pure driving pleasure.
Andrew (who is deeply biased)
1983 300TD, 320 K miles (200 k miles drive train).
On Tue, Nov 11,
Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in
order to repair it.
Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad
problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should
have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to
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A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the
head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the
12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled
I've never driven a 123 wagon, but from the 115 300D, 123 240D, 126
300SDL, and 107 450SLC, only the SLC comes close to driving as nicely
as the 124 2300D 2.5T. The 124 gets twice as many miles per gallon as
the SLC, has a usable rear seat, and twice the runk capacity. I've not
driven a newer
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OK Don wrote:
I've never driven a 123 wagon, but from the 115 300D, 123 240D, 126
300SDL, and 107 450SLC, only the SLC comes close to driving as nicely
as the 124 2300D 2.5T. The 124 gets twice as many miles per gallon as
the SLC, has a usable rear seat, and twice the
You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward
to fixing up for me!
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There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they
aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward
to fixing up for me!
On Tue, Nov 11,
I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do
agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked
at.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel
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The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they
I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it.
Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet.
OK Don wrote:
You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward
to fixing up for me!
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Please advise when you no. longer storw hours
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:33:24
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
The 124 may
The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but
they
aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly.
I like the 124 wagon, I think it looks great. It's the
other two 124's that stink. Ugly butts. If only we'd
got a diesel wagon 4matic that was worth a crap in the
US. That
Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order
to repair it.
John Robbins wrote:
A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in
the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right
after the 12mm head that you use to remove it.
A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in
the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right
after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole
in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug
out. The
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
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Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order
to repair it.
Does that mean one should use anti-seize on the glow plug threads?
Craig
John Robbins wrote:
A friend has a '99 E300D,
I've replaced the glow plugs on my wife's 99 E300 twice. Used the
aluminum anti-seize both times with no ill effects thus far.
-Dave Walton
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order
to repair it.
Over on MB Shop they've accumulated quite the list of people who've
fixed it with the head on the car...
John
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