Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Heating/cooling blower on my 91 350SDL (126) is under the dash above front passenger's feet much like a 123. About 5 years ago, I replaced the blower motor on the SDL doing much of the work from the passenger seat with the aid of a mirror on the floor. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder - Original Message - Know what you mean, Wilton. Had to figure out some way to work under the shop sink which has a 6 frame around the bottom when I was re-plumbing the shop. Bought a 4 x 8 sheet of roof decking, cut it in two long ways and layed it part way under the sink over the cabinet frame. Layed down on the board and did the plumbing. Not very pleasant but got the job done. Maybe I could take out the left front seat, cut the board down I used for the plumbing, and lay on it while working under the dash. Could maybe unplug some of the cables that were in the way and get to the fuse box. Have to keep that in mind if the repair doesn't work. Gerry --- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com I understand - very hard for me to get under the dash, also. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder I think that if I take the nut off of the stud that comes up through a hole in the firewall from the bottom of the panel, I can push the panel inward by pushing on the screw and the plastic hooks at the top will slide down and and the whole panel will be loose under the dash. I tried to get my hand up through the cables and such under the dash and didn't succeed. A person with smaller hands might be able to do it. Since there is a spare fuse holder, I'm thinking about trying to repair the bad one since it won't be a big problem if the repair doesn't work. If all else fails I can reach the fuse panel by taking off the dash. It's no big problem to do that (I've had it off once before) although it does take a good bit of time. One problem with trying to work under the dash is the bad hip/leg which won't tolerate a twisted body position for very long. Gerry -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com If you have to access screw(s)/bolt(s), etc, from the underside to remove the panel, can you just move the wires in question from there without removing the panel? Wilton From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Heating/cooling blower on my 91 350SDL (126) is under the dash above front passenger's feet much like a 123. About 5 years ago, I replaced the blower motor on the SDL doing much of the work from the passenger seat with the aid of a mirror on the floor. Wilton That's an idea. Will have to try that. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- Wilton wrote: Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short, tongue-like terminal soldered to it when new, evidently by/for selling dealer; 'had wire to power dealer-installed cell phone plugged onto it; I broke the extra tongue/terminal off last week, 'cause original, analog phone is no longer installed. Rich wrote: And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. Jim wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! --- Peter wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
If you have to access screw(s)/bolt(s), etc, from the underside to remove the panel, can you just move the wires in question from there without removing the panel? Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
I've pulled 4 123 fuse panels out. Was helping My MB Mech do a swap outs of bad panels. 3 of the 4 has enough wire that you could pull the panel out rotate it and disconnect the wiring on the back. 1 of them the wiring harness was on the short side. Had just enough room to pull the panel and get my hand on the back side working thru the panel hole and using a Nubby screwdriver to unscrew the leads. Hand look like it was attacked by a PO'ed cat when I was finished with that one. As far as moving the wires from one spot to another it depends if there is enough slack. Panel is held in by 2 screws. Once you get those out push the panel towards the dash then rotate it to pull out. Russ W. WILTON wrote: 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Gerry if swapping the wires to another spot doesn't work out for you. I can check at the Pick N Pull the specializes in German cars here and see if they have a 123 on the lot and pull it and ship to you. Just let me know. Russ W. archer wrote: I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
I was just at the junkyard today, they have a bunch of 123s. --R Russ Williams wrote: Gerry if swapping the wires to another spot doesn't work out for you. I can check at the Pick N Pull the specializes in German cars here and see if they have a 123 on the lot and pull it and ship to you. Just let me know. Russ W. archer wrote: I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
I think that if I take the nut off of the stud that comes up through a hole in the firewall from the bottom of the panel, I can push the panel inward by pushing on the screw and the plastic hooks at the top will slide down and and the whole panel will be loose under the dash. I tried to get my hand up through the cables and such under the dash and didn't succeed. A person with smaller hands might be able to do it. Since there is a spare fuse holder, I'm thinking about trying to repair the bad one since it won't be a big problem if the repair doesn't work. If all else fails I can reach the fuse panel by taking off the dash. It's no big problem to do that (I've had it off once before) although it does take a good bit of time. One problem with trying to work under the dash is the bad hip/leg which won't tolerate a twisted body position for very long. Gerry -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com If you have to access screw(s)/bolt(s), etc, from the underside to remove the panel, can you just move the wires in question from there without removing the panel? Wilton From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
I understand - very hard for me to get under the dash, also. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder I think that if I take the nut off of the stud that comes up through a hole in the firewall from the bottom of the panel, I can push the panel inward by pushing on the screw and the plastic hooks at the top will slide down and and the whole panel will be loose under the dash. I tried to get my hand up through the cables and such under the dash and didn't succeed. A person with smaller hands might be able to do it. Since there is a spare fuse holder, I'm thinking about trying to repair the bad one since it won't be a big problem if the repair doesn't work. If all else fails I can reach the fuse panel by taking off the dash. It's no big problem to do that (I've had it off once before) although it does take a good bit of time. One problem with trying to work under the dash is the bad hip/leg which won't tolerate a twisted body position for very long. Gerry -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com If you have to access screw(s)/bolt(s), etc, from the underside to remove the panel, can you just move the wires in question from there without removing the panel? Wilton From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Hi Russ, This one has only one stud that extends up through the firewall at the bottom of the fuse box with a nut and washer on it. Took it out and pushed the fuse box in about about an inch and it would go no further. If the fuse box was about 3/8 narrower it could be pulled out through the hole in the firewall. There may not be enough slack in the wires to pull it through the hole in the firewall even if it were possible, though. I tried twisting the fuse box all different ways to see if I could get to the screws like you did but the wires were too short. Guess I could widen the hole with a dremel and a cut-off wheel, but the short wires probably wouldn't let it come out far enough to get to the screws anway. Probably ought to try soldering in a new contact for the fuse. There is still some brass left from the contact that burned up so I can bed a new contact both in the bottom and the end. Thanks for suggestions. Gerry - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net I've pulled 4 123 fuse panels out. Was helping My MB Mech do a swap outs of bad panels. 3 of the 4 has enough wire that you could pull the panel out rotate it and disconnect the wiring on the back. 1 of them the wiring harness was on the short side. Had just enough room to pull the panel and get my hand on the back side working thru the panel hole and using a Nubby screwdriver to unscrew the leads. Hand look like it was attacked by a PO'ed cat when I was finished with that one. As far as moving the wires from one spot to another it depends if there is enough slack. Panel is held in by 2 screws. Once you get those out push the panel towards the dash then rotate it to pull out. Russ W. WILTON wrote: 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Thanks a lot, Russ. I'll sure keep that in mind. Gerry -- Gerry if swapping the wires to another spot doesn't work out for you. I can check at the Pick N Pull the specializes in German cars here and see if they have a 123 on the lot and pull it and ship to you. Just let me know. Russ W. archer wrote: I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Thanks, Rich. Gerry I was just at the junkyard today, they have a bunch of 123s. --R Russ Williams wrote: Gerry if swapping the wires to another spot doesn't work out for you. I can check at the Pick N Pull the specializes in German cars here and see if they have a 123 on the lot and pull it and ship to you. Just let me know. Russ W. archer wrote: I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
- Original Message - Know what you mean, Wilton. Had to figure out some way to work under the shop sink which has a 6 frame around the bottom when I was re-plumbing the shop. Bought a 4 x 8 sheet of roof decking, cut it in two long ways and layed it part way under the sink over the cabinet frame. Layed down on the board and did the plumbing. Not very pleasant but got the job done. Maybe I could take out the left front seat, cut the board down I used for the plumbing, and lay on it while working under the dash. Could maybe unplug some of the cables that were in the way and get to the fuse box. Have to keep that in mind if the repair doesn't work. Gerry --- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com I understand - very hard for me to get under the dash, also. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder I think that if I take the nut off of the stud that comes up through a hole in the firewall from the bottom of the panel, I can push the panel inward by pushing on the screw and the plastic hooks at the top will slide down and and the whole panel will be loose under the dash. I tried to get my hand up through the cables and such under the dash and didn't succeed. A person with smaller hands might be able to do it. Since there is a spare fuse holder, I'm thinking about trying to repair the bad one since it won't be a big problem if the repair doesn't work. If all else fails I can reach the fuse panel by taking off the dash. It's no big problem to do that (I've had it off once before) although it does take a good bit of time. One problem with trying to work under the dash is the bad hip/leg which won't tolerate a twisted body position for very long. Gerry -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com If you have to access screw(s)/bolt(s), etc, from the underside to remove the panel, can you just move the wires in question from there without removing the panel? Wilton From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Hi Wilton, The fuse panel appears to be mounted from the inside. There are two plastic hooks that are part of the panel that appear to hold the panel at the top, and one centered stud with a nut on it at the bottom. If the cable is long enough it may be possible to shove the panel out through the hole in the firewall by turning it sideways, but I doubt it. I seem to remember someone talking about how hard it was to work on the fuse panel under the dash. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 'Don't remember how the 123 fuse panel is mounted and how easily it comes out, but I've had the fuse panels in my 124 and 126 pulled up and out so I could get to the wires on underside of them. 124 and 126 are fairly easy to do; panels are held by two screws and have sufficient excess length (but not TOO much) wire to pull them up and turn them over. I suspect 123 is similar, but I'm not sure. Those with 123 fuse panel removal experience chime in. Wilton The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2230 - Release Date: 07/10/09 17:57:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http
[MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly of an '83 300d? the part of the seat underneath the fuse looks ok and I can probably solder a new brass seat on to it, but will the plastic assembly withstand the heat of soldering? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly No. Fuse blocks are cheap at the U-Pull. I've never seen one taken, in fact. That's high-temperature plastic, but I'm not sure soldering would hold up, especially if it started to get hot. Spot welding, maybe. I'd say replace it if you can. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. --R Jim Cathey wrote: REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short, tongue-like terminal soldered to it when new, evidently by/for selling dealer; 'had wire to power dealer-installed cell phone plugged onto it; I broke the extra tongue/terminal off last week, 'cause original, analog phone is no longer installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly of an '83 300d? the part of the seat underneath the fuse looks ok and I can probably solder a new brass seat on to it, but will the plastic assembly withstand the heat of soldering? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- Wilton wrote: Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short, tongue-like terminal soldered to it when new, evidently by/for selling dealer; 'had wire to power dealer-installed cell phone plugged onto it; I broke the extra tongue/terminal off last week, 'cause original, analog phone is no longer installed. Rich wrote: And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. Jim wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! --- Peter wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
