Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote: Go to http://www.importvision.com/. They're pretty reasonable for 123s. I'm really surprised everyone doesn't already have a set. My Euros for the 201 were $229+ shpg w/clear corner lights included. Bosch? Hella? Taiwan? Looks like clear is $205 and slightly

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread redghost
Jim, the more I look at the heap, the more I am certain it is a true european edition. That car has a bunch of not the same things that Gump has, and I have found at PnP. The center console in the heap is completely different from Gump with that radio up high and no breather vents at the

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread redghost
in a way it is sort of really cool. If you continue to salvage the skin from microwaves, you may be able to sell the car in arizona for mucho dinero. Wonder what gauge that stuff is and would it work to patch Gump? On Wednesday, January 18, 2006, at 05:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Jim, the

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Cathey
in a way it is sort of really cool. If you continue to salvage the skin from microwaves, you may be able to sell the car in arizona for mucho dinero. Wonder what gauge that stuff is and would it work to patch Gump? AZ rust-free car? Could just dip the entire car and electrolytically remove

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread John Berryman
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Bosch? Hella? Taiwan? Looks like clear is $205 and slightly smoked is $229 now. Taiwan, very good quality(for 201). All the vacuum stuff is in there, factory type sealed access covers . I'm real happy with them, they throw a nice pattern

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:47:28 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both light output and lamp life equations have high powers of voltage in them. Brightness may go up with V^2 (for example), but life will go down with V^4 (also made-up). My leaky memory says it was a power of 9 and 11,

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: How likely is it to be harassed by the fuzz if you upgrade? When I was a pizza drivin' kid, I blew a headlight in my 3 month old car. Had a ticket within 24 hours of the failure. Put in Hella E-codes with 55/100 Candlepower bulbs. Pulled over a cop by blinking my high beams in his

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Marshall Booth
There is little difference in halogen lamps of the same wattage. There are some techniques that can modestly increase the light output at the same wattage, but they will have a shorter life. Changing the light output results in a rather modest improvement in visibility!! Improving the light

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Curt Raymond
on other cars, that I do alot. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:21:49 -0700 From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, It's possible you do have

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey
Okay, I've been trying to hold back but, what is it about improved lighting? I have absolutely no problem with the standard headlights in my 240D and I pretty much can't imagine why I'd need more light. I almost never use the highbeams now... If you never get to go where it's very dark, the

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: Okay, I've been trying to hold back but, what is it about improved lighting? I have absolutely no problem with the standard headlights in my 240D and I pretty much can't imagine why I'd need more light. I almost never use the highbeams now... If you never get to go where

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Okay, I've been trying to hold back but, what is it about improved lighting? I have absolutely no problem with the standard headlights in my 240D and I pretty much can't imagine why I'd need more light. I almost never use the highbeams

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
what do the Euro upgrade kits normally cost for 123's? - Original Message From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:21:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
, 2006 6:21:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs There is little difference in halogen lamps of the same wattage. There are some techniques that can modestly increase the light output at the same wattage, but they will have a shorter life. Changing the light output results

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Hans Neureiter
PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:21:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs There is little difference in halogen lamps of the same wattage. There are some techniques that can modestly increase the light output at the same

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread John Berryman
On Jan 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: what do the Euro upgrade kits normally cost for 123's? Go to http://www.importvision.com/. They're pretty reasonable for 123s. I'm really surprised everyone doesn't already have a set. My Euros for the 201 were $229+ shpg w/clear

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Levi Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:21:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs There is little difference in halogen lamps of the same wattage. There are some techniques that can modestly increase the light output

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey
I dunno, I've tried just putting higher wattage bulbs in my Subaru's headlights and the difference was really hard to tell if at all. Without relays most wiring harnesses will not supply enough extra current in order to supply much extra light. Whatever extra current does flow goes into

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Levi Smith
Sorry, left that part out. Yes I do have upgraded wiring on there. I did not want to try pulling 20 amps through the standard wiring harness... (: Levi On 1/18/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno, I've tried just putting higher wattage bulbs in my Subaru's headlights and the

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Dave M.
or www.danielsternlighting.com. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:45:57 -0800 (PST) From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs what do the Euro upgrade kits normally cost for 123's?

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread B Dike
Our 85 300CD has Euro lights with some high output bulbs from Daniel [can't remember last name] Lighting. I thought they were great and was proud of them. But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle have declared them inappropriate for our area here because of the hills around here. The

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
stern B Dike wrote: Our 85 300CD has Euro lights with some high output bulbs from Daniel [can't remember last name] Lighting. I thought they were great and was proud of them. But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle have declared them inappropriate for our area here because of the

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey
them. But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle have declared them inappropriate for our area here because of the hills around here. The sharp upper cutoff in the pattern either leaves the driver blind when climbing hills or blinds the oncoming traffic when descending, or both. And that

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-18 Thread Dave M.
are in the Euro EPC. Won't work with the 'round' headlights, of course. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:16:55 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs them. But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Christopher McCann
: Harry Watkins Subject: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs The December issue of Consumers Report tested five premium replacement bulbs on three different vehicles. Skipping to their bottom line. While they do yield whiter-looking light, premium aftermarket halogen don't offer

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Christopher McCann
Did anyone mention this place? Anygood? http://www.rallylights.com/ THanks, Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt Rally bulbs, but Dan Stern can get them. I buy my overwattage Hx bulbs at NAPA. The key word is 'motorcycle'. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Levitt
Chris, I did. I've been buying from them for a long time. They had a = change in management a couple of years ago and I've continued to = see good service and an expanded product offering. Ken, the original owner, was active in rallying and rally support. = I don't know about the new

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread BillR
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs BillR wrote: Harry - I just had a bulb go out in my '81 SD and replaced it with the Sylvania super bright white [19.98

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread David Brodbeck
BillR wrote: If I have spent $40 for what could have been achieved with a good wash and another $9 bulb I would be ticked. Old bulb was clean though, and I do not know the wear characteristics on a halogen bulb [do they turn yellow and dim with age?]. Yeah, they do. They don't darken inside

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread John Berryman
On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 20:53 US/Eastern, Christopher McCann wrote: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania Silverstars, I am running them in my 190D Euro and I have no complaints with the light they shed. 60/55s its been only a week and a few days,

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread BillR
300SD 'EM' 270k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs BillR wrote: If I have spent $40 for what could have been

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs BillR wrote: If I have spent $40 for what could have been achieved with a good wash and another $9 bulb I would be ticked. Old bulb was clean though

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: It also wouldn't explain the improved sharpness in the pattern, which could really only be coming from better optics. Or better alignment of the filament with the optics. I believe this is why Osram and Hella bulbs worked better in my 6x8 rectangular E-code lamps

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread John Berryman
On Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006, at 06:50 US/Eastern, Mitch Haley wrote: I did once get some bulbs from Whitney with the name Candlepower stamped on the plain white box, those were good, I think they may have been made in Germany. The ones marked Candlepower are made by Sylvania, specifically by

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs John Berryman wrote: On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 20:53 US/Eastern, Christopher McCann wrote: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Dave M.
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs I'm running Silver Stars on several of my cars. Very minor improvement in illumination (I ran each car with one new Silver Star and one NEW conventional light to compare). The slightly whiter color

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
The 130/100 bulbs I had in my white car (with relays) lasted about 4-6 months, since I drive with low beams on all the time as DRL's. But WOW did they ever light up the road... 460w total on high beam We run 100/80's (common motorcycle bulb) in our for-sale 450 SL, and the 400W of deer-finding

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Christopher McCann wrote: the sealed units lasted me 5 months/10,000 miles. They each died within 1 day of the other. That's VERY short life. All of my OE lamps have lasted in excess of 100kmi (some nearly double that) but I have NO idea how many hours of lamp operation that amounts to. I

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
The life of the lamps WILL be inversely (but not linearly) proportional to the output from the voltage regulator. All other things being equal, if your voltage regulator limits the alternator output to 13.8 V or a bit less (as the OE regulators in my cars did) the lamp life will be almost double

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: The life of the lamps WILL be inversely (but not linearly) proportional to the output from the voltage regulator. All other things being equal, if your voltage regulator limits the alternator output to 13.8 V or a bit less (as the OE regulators in my cars did) the lamp life

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Curt Raymond
thought had inadequate lighting was a '79 Saab that I'm pretty sure had electrics problems. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:21:36 -0700 From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread barrystark
So Curt, with all the jokes about 240Ds and getting bug splats on the rear window...is it possible for you to outdrive your headlights? Barry (ducking) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I've been trying to hold back but, what is it about improved lighting? I have absolutely

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-17 Thread Tim C
: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs Curt, It's possible you do have better eyes than most people. My night vision ain't all that great, and if it's raining at night, that's even worse. I'll take all the light I can get

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread BillR
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:04 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs The December issue of Consumers Report tested five premium replacement bulbs on three different vehicles. Skipping to their bottom

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Harry Watkins
third 124 has stock, crappy DOT lighting with 9004 bulbs... duct-taping a pair of D-cell Mag Lites to the hood would be an improvement. :) -Dave M. From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs The December issue of Consumers Report tested five

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread John Ervine
Harry Watkins wrote: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets. The other four were: APC Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal Vision and Wagner TruView. The Sylvania Silverstars are okay. On the other hand,

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Harry Watkins
on the road when in a test vehicle, but seems much better. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 270k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:04 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] CR report

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Levitt
Harry writes: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets. The other four were: APC Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal Vision and Wagner TruView. Check out www.rallylights.com. I ordered a set of their

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Dave M.
: Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs Harry writes: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets. The other four were: APC Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Levitt
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs Lee, what brand/model bulbs did you order? I'm curious to hear what you get, and how they work. Another source is www.powerbulbs.com and they do ship from across the pond. :) +dm

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt Rally bulbs, but Dan Stern can get them. I buy my overwattage Hx bulbs at NAPA. The key word is 'motorcycle'. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

2006-01-16 Thread R A Bennell
on fire. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt Rally bulbs, but Dan