Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
My boy drove the 79300TD delivering pizzas for a summer on the weekends for a 
local shop when we lived in Houston. He actually made some decent coin in tips 
as it was in an upscale area, bought fuel but didn’t pay the car ins etc. 

--FT
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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> My eldest did DoorDash for a while when he had a 1995 300D. Now with a car 
> like that you might actually been able to come out ahead, but with the crazy 
> hours he had to work and the places he had to go (rarely contiguous areas 
> between runs) I don’t see how he made any money.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah hard for me to believe anyone is netting a regular $1000/week
>> delivering fast food, after accounting for gas, wear and tear,
>> insurance, etc. unless working crazy hours.
>> 
>> I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
>> kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night but
>> it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.
>> 
>> It's important to have a reliable car that has already seen the bulk of
>> its depreciation. You don't want to be putting the miles on a new car
>> and even if you can do the work yourself, you don't want the downtime of
>> frequent repairs.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> After expenses? And 70-80 hours?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s 
 been for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is 
 have a breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.
 
 He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week 
 doing this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 
 
 AZBob
 
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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
> 
> Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues 
> in some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach 
> car.
> 
>> I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I 
>> thought it was an interference engine.
> 
> It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
> 
> http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I also delivered for Domino's Pizza at about the same time. This was in
the "30 minutes or it's free" days so we had a pretty confined delivery
area, which included about half of IU campus (there was another store in
town that had the other half).

If you drove your own car, you got an hourly wage plus a percentage of
your gross deliveries as a "commission." The commission was paid in cash
every night, and was supposed to cover your car expenses. You also kept
any tips.

I honestly don't remember the wage and commission percentage
anymore. Pay was a little above minimum wage, and the commission seemed
like extra cash in your pocket especially if you had a fuel efficient
car, but sooner or later you'd need tires, or brakes, or a starter, or
have an insurance payment due, etc. so long term it was a wash for most
drivers.

Sometimes if you got lucky you'd get a lot of tips. I had nights where I
had $75 in tips, but that was rare. Usually students did not tip, or
maybe rounded up to the nearest dollar. The townies tipped pretty well
in general. Strangely (I thought) the poor neighborhoods usually tipped
well, and the wealthy neighborhoods were miserly.

I delivered for them for a couple of years, using an air-cooled Beetle.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> On 2021-04-24 19:00, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
>> kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night 
>> but
>> it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.
>
> Back in '91 while attending WMU I worked a couple weekends in a Domino's 
> franchise just off campus. The only thing I can remember clearly is the 
> local belief that the Oshtemo store drivers, working full time, could 
> make about $700/wk, which I assume was gross including mileage but not 
> including car expenses. But still a lot of money for a zero skill 
> endeavor like pizza delivery. Tips were supposed to be pretty good there 
> (they sucked on campus, which is why I was gone in under a month).
>

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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-04-24 19:00, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:


I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night 
but

it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.


Back in '91 while attending WMU I worked a couple weekends in a Domino's 
franchise just off campus. The only thing I can remember clearly is the 
local belief that the Oshtemo store drivers, working full time, could 
make about $700/wk, which I assume was gross including mileage but not 
including car expenses. But still a lot of money for a zero skill 
endeavor like pizza delivery. Tips were supposed to be pretty good there 
(they sucked on campus, which is why I was gone in under a month).


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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
neither he nor any of his goofy friends ever think things all the way through.

AZBob

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> My eldest did DoorDash for a while when he had a 1995 300D. Now with a car 
> like that you might actually been able to come out ahead, but with the crazy 
> hours he had to work and the places he had to go (rarely contiguous areas 
> between runs) I don’t see how he made any money.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah hard for me to believe anyone is netting a regular $1000/week
>> delivering fast food, after accounting for gas, wear and tear,
>> insurance, etc. unless working crazy hours.
>> 
>> I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
>> kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night but
>> it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.
>> 
>> It's important to have a reliable car that has already seen the bulk of
>> its depreciation. You don't want to be putting the miles on a new car
>> and even if you can do the work yourself, you don't want the downtime of
>> frequent repairs.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> After expenses? And 70-80 hours?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s 
 been for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is 
 have a breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.
 
 He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week 
 doing this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 
 
 AZBob
 
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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
> 
> Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues 
> in some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach 
> car.
> 
>> I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I 
>> thought it was an interference engine.
> 
> It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
> 
> http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly.

My eldest did DoorDash for a while when he had a 1995 300D. Now with a car like 
that you might actually been able to come out ahead, but with the crazy hours 
he had to work and the places he had to go (rarely contiguous areas between 
runs) I don’t see how he made any money.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah hard for me to believe anyone is netting a regular $1000/week
> delivering fast food, after accounting for gas, wear and tear,
> insurance, etc. unless working crazy hours.
> 
> I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
> kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night but
> it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.
> 
> It's important to have a reliable car that has already seen the bulk of
> its depreciation. You don't want to be putting the miles on a new car
> and even if you can do the work yourself, you don't want the downtime of
> frequent repairs.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> After expenses? And 70-80 hours?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s 
>>> been for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is 
>>> have a breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.
>>> 
>>> He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week doing 
>>> this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
> 
> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
 
 Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues 
 in some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach 
 car.
 
> I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I 
> thought it was an interference engine.
 
 It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
 
 http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yeah hard for me to believe anyone is netting a regular $1000/week
delivering fast food, after accounting for gas, wear and tear,
insurance, etc. unless working crazy hours.

I delivered pizza years ago and it was OK spending money for a single
kid and the cash tips could sometimes add up if you had a good night but
it really didn't net out to a whole lot more than minimum wage.

It's important to have a reliable car that has already seen the bulk of
its depreciation. You don't want to be putting the miles on a new car
and even if you can do the work yourself, you don't want the downtime of
frequent repairs.

Allan



Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> After expenses? And 70-80 hours?
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s 
>> been for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is 
>> have a breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.
>> 
>> He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week doing 
>> this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
>>> 
>>> Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues in 
>>> some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach car.
>>> 
 I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I 
 thought it was an interference engine.
>>> 
>>> It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
>>> 
>>> http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
>>> 
>>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
After expenses? And 70-80 hours?

-D

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s been 
> for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is have a 
> breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.
> 
> He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week doing 
> this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
>> 
>> Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues in 
>> some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach car.
>> 
>>> I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I thought 
>>> it was an interference engine.
>> 
>> It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
>> 
>> http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
They claim he can get the breathalyzer installed and be good to go. it’s been 
for almost 5 years since his DUI. The rules are all he needs to do is have a 
breathalyzer on a vehicle for one year and he’ll be fine.

He claims his knucklehead friends are making around 1000 bucks a week doing 
this grocery store delivery/DoorDash or whatever it is. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
> 
> Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues in 
> some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach car.
> 
>> I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I thought 
>> it was an interference engine.
> 
> It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.
> 
> http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.

Yeah. They went with a chain in '98. '98-'02 had oil control ring issues in 
some instances. If you don't let them run out of oil it's a cockroach car.

>I was stunned that the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I thought it 
>was an interference engine.

It is, but there is always the possibility of getting lucky. He got lucky.

http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-04-24 14:11, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Couldn't help myself. Had to look.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/wittmann-1997-red-saturn-2dr-sc1/7311851575.html
Mitch has or had a Saturn


Considered buying a SC2 project back when I bought my 97 Achieva.
An SC1 would be down on power and up on reliability compared to an SC2, 
or just about anything from that era.

MPG on a stick shift SC1 could rival or exceed a 4 cyl Metro.



https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/phoenix-1999-toyota-corolla-owned-years/7305747340.html
No timing belt, they tend to use oil.


I didn't know they were chain drive in 1999.
A friend's 86 Tercel and 93 Corolla 1.8 16v were both belt drive. He 
didn't replace the belts on either until they broke. I was stunned that 
the '93 ran fine after I put a new belt on it, I thought it was an 
interference engine.


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[MBZ] Cars For Numb Nuts was Re: OkieBoy's Birthday!

2021-04-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Couldn't help myself. Had to look.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/wittmann-1997-red-saturn-2dr-sc1/7311851575.html
Mitch has or had a Saturn

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/tempe-96-subaru-legacy-wagon-runs-great/7311623529.html
(Only if the head gaskets have been done, otherwise, run away)

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/phoenix-2004-mazda/7311414558.html
Mrs. Dan had one, I think.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/chandler-1996-toyota-camry-le/7306291149.html
Color is off. Interference engine I think, do the timing belt and it's a 
cockroach car.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/phoenix-1999-toyota-corolla-owned-years/7305747340.html
No timing belt, they tend to use oil.


Rick

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Yeah...happy birthday ya big galoot.  Sell me a nice <$1000-ish gasser for numb 
nuts to do Door Dash while trying to get his license back.

AZBob


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