Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?, or Departure Gate Asshats

2013-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Time: Good Friday morning

Location: NWA gate counter, Boston's Logan Airport

Weather: Clear, unlimited ceiling

Destination: MKE via DTW

Weather in DTW: Fog and low clouds


This is scenario - inbound equipment has been stuck on the ground at DTW trying 
to take off to reach BOS. Delays are reaching into the hours.  I, along with 
two other employees, are booked on the flight and myself and one of the others 
have been able to upgrade to first class.

People are getting ugly. They want to get home for the Easter weekend. Tempers 
are flaring - we have all seen this if you travel regularly.

Business type guy (and we are all dressed in business attire as well, suits and 
ties) walks up to the counter to ask the gate agent what the latest is. When 
she tells him he has a blowout, leaving her nearly in tears. He storms away. 
Now's my chance.

I walk up to her and apologize for the asshat who just reamed her out. I told 
her that most of us business travelers are pretty laid back people, and that 
idiots like this guy make the rest of us look bad, and we all really appreciate 
what she does and understand the situation is not her fault.

She thanks me graciously and I go back and sit down.

Len, one of my fellow workers who is a former New Yorker, ask, Dan why did you 
do that? She gets crap like that all day from idiots like him! This is the East 
Coast!!

Yeah, well, Lenny, you just watch and see how things play out...

So maybe an hour later the equipment gets in and they get it turned around. 
Mike, the other employee with us who didn't have a platinum FF card, is the one 
relegated to coach.

Right before they call boarding, I go up to the gate agent I spoke to 
previously.

Hey, I know the flight is probably really full, but do you think there is any 
way you could get my co-worker upgraded so he could sit with us? He doesn't 
travel much, and it would be a big thrill for him to get to travel in first 
class.

Let me see what I can do. I have to finish the manifest and then I'll look.

Thank you. You really do a great job, you know.

So they call for boarding for first class. Lenny and I go up and wait. The gate 
agent comes out and asks me the last name of my co-worker. I point it out in 
the manifest and she call him up.

Score!

Here's the best part:

We get on the plane and get settled with our drinks. The first group of coach 
passengers come on, and here is Mr. Asshat, walking towards the back of the 
plane, complaining loudly the whole way to the back of the cabin. Serves you 
right, I'm thinking to myself...

Just before they close the doors, the gate agent comes in and leans over to 
whisper something to me...

I gave your friend the mean guy's seat in first class. I told him he got 
bumped!

I show my boys this behavior every time I can. If you empathize and show true 
appreciation to people for what they do, they will almost alway go out of their 
way to help or reward you. When my boys were little and I was a stay at home 
Dad, they used to tell their Mom how I knew everyone when we went shopping. 
What they meant was that I always made a point of using someone's name when I 
spoke to them and did my best to engage them when we spoke.

When people think you have sincere interest and appreciation, it often (not 
always) pays off.  We refer to it as using your influencing skills.


Sent from my iPad

On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Treating people well always pays off.  One a trip a couple years ago with my 
 mother, who requires a wheelchair in airports, we went through Atlanta twice 
 in a few days, and believe it or not the gate agent remembered us and the 
 fact we were going to a wedding, asked how it went, etc.  I suspect this is 
 because I NEVER demand anything from gate agents, always ask, show up on 
 time, travel with my mother instead of foisting her off on the airport staff, 
 and always say thank you and please.  She also moved us to bulkhead seats 
 without being asked, and while I'm sure Delta does that for people with 
 limited mobility as a matter of course, it was nice of her to do so.
 
 So far my worst experience has been grudging service (not when traveling with 
 Mom) and even then I said thank you very much when I had to get a ticket 
 changed due to a late flight.
 
 Mind you, I've never been late for boarding on an originating flight, don't 
 whine and complain, and in general treat people like I would prefer to be 
 treated.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?, or Departure Gate Asshats

2013-07-09 Thread WILTON

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?, 
or Departure Gate Asshats




Time: Good Friday morning

Location: NWA gate counter, Boston's Logan Airport

Weather: Clear, unlimited ceiling

Destination: MKE via DTW

Weather in DTW: Fog and low clouds


This is scenario - inbound equipment has been stuck on the ground at DTW 
trying to take off to reach BOS. Delays are reaching into the hours.  I, 
along with two other employees, are booked on the flight and myself and 
one of the others have been able to upgrade to first class.


People are getting ugly. They want to get home for the Easter weekend. 
Tempers are flaring - we have all seen this if you travel regularly.


Business type guy (and we are all dressed in business attire as well, 
suits and ties) walks up to the counter to ask the gate agent what the 
latest is. When she tells him he has a blowout, leaving her nearly in 
tears. He storms away. Now's my chance.


I walk up to her and apologize for the asshat who just reamed her out. I 
told her that most of us business travelers are pretty laid back people, 
and that idiots like this guy make the rest of us look bad, and we all 
really appreciate what she does and understand the situation is not her 
fault.


She thanks me graciously and I go back and sit down.

Len, one of my fellow workers who is a former New Yorker, ask, Dan why 
did you do that? She gets crap like that all day from idiots like him! 
This is the East Coast!!


Yeah, well, Lenny, you just watch and see how things play out...

So maybe an hour later the equipment gets in and they get it turned 
around. Mike, the other employee with us who didn't have a platinum FF 
card, is the one relegated to coach.


Right before they call boarding, I go up to the gate agent I spoke to 
previously.


Hey, I know the flight is probably really full, but do you think there is 
any way you could get my co-worker upgraded so he could sit with us? He 
doesn't travel much, and it would be a big thrill for him to get to travel 
in first class.


Let me see what I can do. I have to finish the manifest and then I'll 
look.


Thank you. You really do a great job, you know.

So they call for boarding for first class. Lenny and I go up and wait. The 
gate agent comes out and asks me the last name of my co-worker. I point it 
out in the manifest and she call him up.


Score!

Here's the best part:

We get on the plane and get settled with our drinks. The first group of 
coach passengers come on, and here is Mr. Asshat, walking towards the back 
of the plane, complaining loudly the whole way to the back of the cabin. 
Serves you right, I'm thinking to myself...


Just before they close the doors, the gate agent comes in and leans over 
to whisper something to me...


I gave your friend the mean guy's seat in first class. I told him he got 
bumped!


I show my boys this behavior every time I can. If you empathize and show 
true appreciation to people for what they do, they will almost alway go 
out of their way to help or reward you. When my boys were little and I was 
a stay at home Dad, they used to tell their Mom how I knew everyone when 
we went shopping. What they meant was that I always made a point of using 
someone's name when I spoke to them and did my best to engage them when we 
spoke.


When people think you have sincere interest and appreciation, it often 
(not always) pays off.  We refer to it as using your influencing skills.



Sent from my iPad

On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

Treating people well always pays off.  One a trip a couple years ago with 
my mother, who requires a wheelchair in airports, we went through Atlanta 
twice in a few days, and believe it or not the gate agent remembered us 
and the fact we were going to a wedding, asked how it went, etc.  I 
suspect this is because I NEVER demand anything from gate agents, always 
ask, show up on time, travel with my mother instead of foisting her off 
on the airport staff, and always say thank you and please.  She also 
moved us to bulkhead seats without being asked, and while I'm sure Delta 
does that for people with limited mobility as a matter of course, it was 
nice of her to do so.


So far my worst experience has been grudging service (not when traveling 
with Mom) and even then I said thank you very much when I had to get a 
ticket changed due to a late flight.


Mind you, I've never been late for boarding on an originating flight, 
don't whine and complain, and in general treat people like I would prefer 
to be treated.


Peter

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