Re: [MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
Not sure about the current rules, but used to be nascar had to be 'merican stock body shape, and engine had to remotely resemble a block available in production for said body style. Under that, a diesel would have to be available as a production run ( not option ) for the car. However under the new rules, I don't think anyone has any idea what the actual manufacturer qualifications are, but the new cars, are all seriously castrated. When the cars started getting too light for the speeds a few years back, they started cutting them back, now the new ones have brought mediocrity to new levels. Modern nascar races are about as exciting as watching grass grow, of course, with enough cheap 'merican beer in your gut, I guess it's alright :-) As far as being 'merican, Toyota has wormed their way around that one for the Nascar truck series since they assemble them here ( not that they care about nascar, but they want the TV camera focused on their big stickers being drilled into the eyes of potential truck buyers with guts stuffed with aforementioned cheap beer ) Last I heard, they didn't get off to a very good start while at the first race, getting busted for cheating and being the recipient of one of, if not the largest , fine in nascar history. ---Robert LarryT wrote: > Howdy - > Now that Audi has shown total domination for several years now using a > V10 TDI Diesel to win LeMans and other endurance races with a purpose to > raise awareness of the diesel technology now available. They were said to > desire to make countries - especially the US - aware of the diesels ability > to offer dramatic fuel mileage with performance equal to or better than > their gas counterparts. Now that the background is out of the way (Whew!) > here;s my question. > > Since the US population is infinitely more aware of the goings on in > Nascar, has anyone heard if Audi or others plan to compete in Nascar with a > diesel? That would really seem to be a better way to reach a large number > of Americans than endurance racing. Don't know what's legal/illegal to run > in N'car but perhaps the V10 Audi has used so far would work in Nascar? > > Or perhaps the rules are written to prevent someone from running a > diesel? > > I would think GM or Ford could really gain some ground on the competition if > they could market a strong diesel to the public that would offer better > performance than some of the hybrids being marketed. > > Anyone know? > Just curious - > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
If Audi has any plans pertinent to Nascar (bumper car racing), they'd better dig out the old Panzerwagon plans. Though Michael Schumacher never raced in Nascar, I wonder if that's where he got his ideas on "sportsman like" racing . . . and the FIA let him get away with it all those years? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
> > I think they are. I know little about NASCAR, so I might not have the > particulars correct, but I do think that the fuel (ethanol I believe), > the engine displacement, carburetors, etc. are all very tightly > controlled so as to make all the cars nearly equal in terms of engine > performance. Allan- I fall into the same camp of NASCAR knowledge. But I do dimly recall in my "yout" seeing Richard Petty in some of his last races, which took place in cars I could recognize from street versions. With first the replacement of cars by "skins" on tube-frame versions and now the "Car of Tomorrow" exactly what on a "stock" car today might even POSSIBLY appear on a car that you might find on the street? I sure don't see anything beyond the stickers. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Or perhaps the rules are written to prevent someone from running a > diesel? I think they are. I know little about NASCAR, so I might not have the particulars correct, but I do think that the fuel (ethanol I believe), the engine displacement, carburetors, etc. are all very tightly controlled so as to make all the cars nearly equal in terms of engine performance. The idea being if all the cars are the same, then the best driver will win. Similar regulations exist for the profile of the car, the rear spoiler, etc. There's really nothing "stock" about NASCAR cars anymore. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
Howdy - Now that Audi has shown total domination for several years now using a V10 TDI Diesel to win LeMans and other endurance races with a purpose to raise awareness of the diesel technology now available. They were said to desire to make countries - especially the US - aware of the diesels ability to offer dramatic fuel mileage with performance equal to or better than their gas counterparts. Now that the background is out of the way (Whew!) here;s my question. Since the US population is infinitely more aware of the goings on in Nascar, has anyone heard if Audi or others plan to compete in Nascar with a diesel? That would really seem to be a better way to reach a large number of Americans than endurance racing. Don't know what's legal/illegal to run in N'car but perhaps the V10 Audi has used so far would work in Nascar? Or perhaps the rules are written to prevent someone from running a diesel? I would think GM or Ford could really gain some ground on the competition if they could market a strong diesel to the public that would offer better performance than some of the hybrids being marketed. Anyone know? Just curious - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
