Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
That’s what I was thinking Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at 9:56 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb. > In my limited experience the rubber fails first, then the bearing. > YMMV > Fred. > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:27 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> When replacing the drive shaft center support, should the bearing and >> the rubber part that mounts to the car both be replaced? I need to do >> mine on my 210 and for some reason none of my usual sites importec and >> fcp list the the rubber part, only the bearing. I had to go to >> autohausaz for the rubber part. Seems odd the others would not have it. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
This is one of those "while you’re there, do it all” jobs. Silly not to. Maybe it’s an OE item only. -D > On Aug 18, 2019, at 10:56 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb. > In my limited experience the rubber fails first, then the bearing. > YMMV > Fred. > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:27 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> When replacing the drive shaft center support, should the bearing and >> the rubber part that mounts to the car both be replaced? I need to do >> mine on my 210 and for some reason none of my usual sites importec and >> fcp list the the rubber part, only the bearing. I had to go to >> autohausaz for the rubber part. Seems odd the others would not have it. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Kaleb. In my limited experience the rubber fails first, then the bearing. YMMV Fred. On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:27 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When replacing the drive shaft center support, should the bearing and > the rubber part that mounts to the car both be replaced? I need to do > mine on my 210 and for some reason none of my usual sites importec and > fcp list the the rubber part, only the bearing. I had to go to > autohausaz for the rubber part. Seems odd the others would not have it. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Driveshaft center support
When replacing the drive shaft center support, should the bearing and the rubber part that mounts to the car both be replaced? I need to do mine on my 210 and for some reason none of my usual sites importec and fcp list the the rubber part, only the bearing. I had to go to autohausaz for the rubber part. Seems odd the others would not have it. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft then replace it? How does it come off? Ever since I pulled the engine to replace that rod and head gasket I have had driveshaft vibration that is sometimes there, sometimes not at all. I quit driving it because last week I started getting a metallic rattle as well that sounded like a heat shield or something rattling but when I checked everything seems tight. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
I haven't done it either (but need to). The only thing I can add is to ensure the front and back parts of the shaft go back together in exactly the same splines as originally assembled or you'll have an imbalance problem. So marl them unless there is an indexing mark already there. And for all I know this may not apply to a 140. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft then replace it? How does it come off? Ever since I pulled the engine to replace that rod and head gasket I have had driveshaft vibration that is sometimes there, sometimes not at all. I quit driving it because last week I started getting a metallic rattle as well that sounded like a heat shield or something rattling but when I checked everything seems tight. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Purists may not like this suggestion, but what I normally do before taking any driveline apart is to use a spray paint can and make a line down the joint from one shaft to the other. If one side has an orange stripe and the other does not, it is difficult to put it together backwards. On 26/05/2014 11:17 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I haven't done it either (but need to). The only thing I can add is to ensure the front and back parts of the shaft go back together in exactly the same splines as originally assembled or you'll have an imbalance problem. So marl them unless there is an indexing mark already there. And for all I know this may not apply to a 140. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft then replace it? How does it come off? Yes - usually the bearing and the support come separately, you press (hammer) the new bearing into the new support, re-assemble as it came apart (noting which way the support faced) and keeping the two halves of the shaft aligned so the same splines go together. If you haven't done so before now, it's also a good time to replace the flex disks - since you've pulled them off already. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
When I put the engine back in I had the vibration which was odd I thought as it did not vibrate before, so I replaced the front flex disk, made no difference. What was even more strange is sometimes it vibrates and sometimes it doesn't, and it almost seems temp dependent on when it does it. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 12:15 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft then replace it? How does it come off? Yes - usually the bearing and the support come separately, you press (hammer) the new bearing into the new support, re-assemble as it came apart (noting which way the support faced) and keeping the two halves of the shaft aligned so the same splines go together. If you haven't done so before now, it's also a good time to replace the flex disks - since you've pulled them off already. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Could be a transmission mount, too. Does it vibrate only on acceleration? Rear flex disk could be bad too, although that usually won't cause much vibration until it spits out a chunk or two. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
I did this job on a W115 240D the other day... It was fairly easy. Mark the front and rear parts of the shaft as mentioned... I take a long straight edge and run a line with a wax pencil across the two. Pull the whole shaft, then separate it off the car. I was able to knock the old bearing out by supporting the carrier and gently knocking the end of the drive daft (with a plastic faced dead blow hammer). Reinstallation was done carefully with a wide flat punch. It turned out the bearing was not fully seated in the carrier. Clown-mechanicery. One bolt on each of the flex discs were loose too. Very loose. Theres a torque spec for those bolts, and the lock nuts should be renewed on principle. Make sure you take this into consideration. Good luck, Jaime On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft then replace it? How does it come off? Ever since I pulled the engine to replace that rod and head gasket I have had driveshaft vibration that is sometimes there, sometimes not at all. I quit driving it because last week I started getting a metallic rattle as well that sounded like a heat shield or something rattling but when I checked everything seems tight. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
All my mounts (motor, transmission) were replaced before this, too. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
I use a Dremel Moto Tool and a pointed grinding bit to make small indentations on many parts that do better when put back together the same way. Very little metal is removed so there is no balance problem. Then I use a touchup stick from FLAPS and put a drop of paint in the indents. The indents will always be there even if the paint is gone. Gerry On 5/26/2014 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Purists may not like this suggestion, but what I normally do before taking any driveline apart is to use a spray paint can and make a line down the joint from one shaft to the other. If one side has an orange stripe and the other does not, it is difficult to put it together backwards. On 26/05/2014 11:17 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I haven't done it either (but need to). The only thing I can add is to ensure the front and back parts of the shaft go back together in exactly the same splines as originally assembled or you'll have an imbalance problem. So marl them unless there is an indexing mark already there. And for all I know this may not apply to a 140. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain. On 26/05/2014 2:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I use a Dremel Moto Tool and a pointed grinding bit to make small indentations on many parts that do better when put back together the same way. Very little metal is removed so there is no balance problem. Then I use a touchup stick from FLAPS and put a drop of paint in the indents. The indents will always be there even if the paint is gone. Gerry On 5/26/2014 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Purists may not like this suggestion, but what I normally do before taking any driveline apart is to use a spray paint can and make a line down the joint from one shaft to the other. If one side has an orange stripe and the other does not, it is difficult to put it together backwards. On 26/05/2014 11:17 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I haven't done it either (but need to). The only thing I can add is to ensure the front and back parts of the shaft go back together in exactly the same splines as originally assembled or you'll have an imbalance problem. So marl them unless there is an indexing mark already there. And for all I know this may not apply to a 140. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on both sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know... Dan On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Yes I did that as well Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: All my mounts (motor, transmission) were replaced before this, too. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Mine is a diesel and I do not see why the exhaust would have to come off. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
Maybe the exhaust on the diesel is routed differently, but on the gas models it's routed down the transmission tunnel below the driveshaft. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out by looking underneath... Dan On May 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Mine is a diesel and I do not see why the exhaust would have to come off. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
I'm mine it runs to the passenger side of the trans tunnel Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Maybe the exhaust on the diesel is routed differently, but on the gas models it's routed down the transmission tunnel below the driveshaft. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out by looking underneath... Dan On May 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Mine is a diesel and I do not see why the exhaust would have to come off. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job, but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off. The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the W140 is to drop the exhaust. It's a real b*tch of a job, which is why I have put it off indefinitely (and because I don't drive the car any more, too!) Might as well get a rear flex disc while you're at it along with some new bolts for the front flex disc you just replaced. Can't re0use the flex disc bolts unless you have a death wish. Dan On May 26, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
So the drive shaft is visible, and there are no heat shields? Dan On May 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm mine it runs to the passenger side of the trans tunnel Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
There is a heat shield over the drive shaft that has I be removed but it appears it can be removed with the exhaust in place. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So the drive shaft is visible, and there are no heat shields? Dan On May 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm mine it runs to the passenger side of the trans tunnel Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:52:47 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html All I get is: Not Found The requested URL /~jimc/JSLdrive.html was not found on this server. Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.53 (Mandrakelinux/PREFORK-9mdk) mod_ssl/2.0.53 OpenSSL/0.9.7e PHP/4.3.10 mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.6 Server at tank.windwireless.net Port 80 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:54 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on both sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know... On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain. When I was re-doing our '82 240D/3.0, I tried marking the driveshaft with a center punch. I could not make a dent in it, even with a 2# hammer. I was amazed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
That was my experience also - I cleaned it with spray brake cleaner then applied a couple of dots of paint. On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: When I was re-doing our '82 240D/3.0, I tried marking the driveshaft with a center punch. I could not make a dent in it, even with a 2# hammer. I was amazed. Craig -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
On 5/26/2014 9:13 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:54 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on both sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know... On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain. When I was re-doing our '82 240D/3.0, I tried marking the driveshaft with a center punch. I could not make a dent in it, even with a 2# hammer. I was amazed. Craig Me too. That is why I use a Dremel tool with the sharpest, smallest grinding bit. It makes small or larger dimples. If you are working on shafts that have narrow splines very close together, you need very small dimples or you can get it wrong. The grinding bits wear out/get dull very quickly, but then I don't have to mark splines very often. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
How about http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdline.html instead? I shouldn't type links from memory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Driveshaft center support
On Mon, 26 May 2014 20:23:04 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: How about http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdline.html instead? Much better, thanks. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
