Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat
Yep, and don't forget those little black flies. One bit me on right ankle my second day there; it musta itched for 30 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat Yoopers are probably the equivalent of Alaskans when it comes to nutjobbery. To live in that rural of an area you’ve got to be a little off kilter, I believe. Bought our first house (in Indianapolis) from a guy and his new wife who were going to run a hunting lodge 40 miles north of Manistique in the Hiawatha National Forest. Logging roads were it for transportation, and snowmobiles mandatory for winter travel. The wife’s daughter was friends with my secretary’s daughter. Word was that mom bailed after the first winter and swore to never return. I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP. Dan On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds: almost a yooper, but still in civilization. (Ha!) http://www.townofconover.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP. Too bad the yoopers are controlled by the MI legislature. Too bad northern WI is controlled by the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the past few years. Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most wacko. They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia. Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that. One winter in the UP and you figure out the CA liberal model does not work. You learn to take care of yourself and your neighbors, or you die. I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around. I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. .. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat
Another bumper snicker variation was Wisconsin Escapee... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 18, 2015 4:41:11 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for another reason. They cut the center out. The revised bumper snicker said Escape Wisconsin! Hardly what the econ developer crowd wanted to see, but humorous. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There are several wineries popping up in OK also - however the stuff they produce is difficult to drink. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka distillery too. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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in the 70s, Wisconsin had a thin green tape like bumper sticker they used to promote the state, primarily to FIBs in chicagoland. The sticker said Escape to Wisconsin and was fairly popular in FIB land and milwaukee-Madison. Who does not love summer in the North woods? The smell of pine trees and cool nights and gorgeous days will plenty of lakes and rivers for fishing and boating... Damfew people would not like to escape to Wisconsin for the summer. The bumper sticker was deep green like the pine forests. However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for another reason. They cut the center out. The revised bumper snicker said Escape Wisconsin! Hardly what the econ developer crowd wanted to see, but humorous. But if you ever spent a winter in the northwoods, you understand the desire to escape... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Texas Hill Country had some decent stuff, mostly not available outside Texas but it was quite drinkable, and a couple had won some awards. --R On 8/18/15 4:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There are several wineries popping up in OK also - however the stuff they produce is difficult to drink. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka distillery too. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I remember a business trip to Wausau in January. I came out to warm my car up in the morning, a 1992 Ford Escort wagon. It was so cold that the seat did not compress when I sat down in it. I believe the ambient temperature was in the range of -30F at the time. I always like the bumper sticker that said, “Come Smell our Dairy Air”. Dan closet Cheesehead On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: in the 70s, Wisconsin had a thin green tape like bumper sticker they used to promote the state, primarily to FIBs in chicagoland. The sticker said Escape to Wisconsin and was fairly popular in FIB land and milwaukee-Madison. Who does not love summer in the North woods? The smell of pine trees and cool nights and gorgeous days will plenty of lakes and rivers for fishing and boating... Damfew people would not like to escape to Wisconsin for the summer. The bumper sticker was deep green like the pine forests. However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for another reason. They cut the center out. The revised bumper snicker said Escape Wisconsin! Hardly what the econ developer crowd wanted to see, but humorous. But if you ever spent a winter in the northwoods, you understand the desire to escape... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds: almost a yooper, but still in civilization. (Ha!) http://www.townofconover.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP. Too bad the yoopers are controlled by the MI legislature. Too bad northern WI is controlled by the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the past few years. Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most wacko. They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia. Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that. One winter in the UP and you figure out the CA liberal model does not work. You learn to take care of yourself and your neighbors, or you die. I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around. I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. .. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat 'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I had my druthers I'd head East to NS and buy a winery overlooking the Bay of Fundy. Or to Nelson, NZ for a comparable setting. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat 'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yoopers are probably the equivalent of Alaskans when it comes to nutjobbery. To live in that rural of an area you’ve got to be a little off kilter, I believe. Bought our first house (in Indianapolis) from a guy and his new wife who were going to run a hunting lodge 40 miles north of Manistique in the Hiawatha National Forest. Logging roads were it for transportation, and snowmobiles mandatory for winter travel. The wife’s daughter was friends with my secretary’s daughter. Word was that mom bailed after the first winter and swore to never return. I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP. Dan On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds: almost a yooper, but still in civilization. (Ha!) http://www.townofconover.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP. Too bad the yoopers are controlled by the MI legislature. Too bad northern WI is controlled by the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the past few years. Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most wacko. They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia. Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that. One winter in the UP and you figure out the CA liberal model does not work. You learn to take care of yourself and your neighbors, or you die. I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around. I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. .. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat
Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds: almost a yooper, but still in civilization. (Ha!) http://www.townofconover.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/ http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP. Too bad the yoopers are controlled by the MI legislature. Too bad northern WI is controlled by the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the past few years. Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most wacko. They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia. Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that. One winter in the UP and you figure out the CA liberal model does not work. You learn to take care of yourself and your neighbors, or you die. I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around. I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. .. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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PEI makes blueberry wine, among other varieties. So does three lakes winery in WI, http://www.cranberrywine.com/ I like American Wild, from La Vida Loca Not a fruit wine, but not a domestic grape wine either. (actually, I like a lot of their stuff...) http://www.lavidalocawinery.com/ Eagles landing has 3 Best of winners at this year's state fair. I really like their Volga Lake Blush under the Marquette label. Very nice flavor. Decent price too. Their Serenety and Blackberry are the other two Best of varieties from the state fair. http://www.eagleslandingwinery.com/ourwines.html These wineries go head to head with CA or NY and hold their own. The Wine Institute at ISU has a lot to do with that. Maiden Head Winery (WI) is also a Cidery I had a bottle of their Honeycrisp cyder recently, and it was good a year after I bought it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP. Dan Only once? Same for N WI. State bird is the mosquito. Known to swoop in and carry off small dogs and babies. Although up until this year it has been so dry that the population and size have both diminished. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt I'm with andy on this one. If I am going that far N and East, I'd go to Nova Scotia or PEI. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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PEI makes blueberry wine, among other varieties. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: PEI is a bit north, but I can see NS. Southern NS is really nice. I used to go to Halifax, and it was a nice place, too. Dan On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt I'm with andy on this one. If I am going that far N and East, I'd go to Nova Scotia or PEI. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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PEI is a bit north, but I can see NS. Southern NS is really nice. I used to go to Halifax, and it was a nice place, too. Dan On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt I'm with andy on this one. If I am going that far N and East, I'd go to Nova Scotia or PEI. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka distillery too. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat If I had my druthers I'd head East to NS and buy a winery overlooking the Bay of Fundy. Or to Nelson, NZ for a comparable setting. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time... Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat 'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
