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2013-09-12 Thread clay
The shift started earlier than that. Ike warned against it in his admonition that we not ensnare ourselves to the military industrial complex. Too many corrupt unions and corporations to sink their hooks into free money. Then LBJ gave away the ranch so that those undesirous of labor, could

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2013-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond
2013 23:12:02 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids Message-ID: D7D23C7BED9548338A7BEF3CA12B2B74@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;     reply-type=original Income

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2013-09-12 Thread Rich Thomas
...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids Message-ID: 021101ceaf60$821bbc20$86533460$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Asking for facts is an unfair rhetorical device when debating with liberals. Greg

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2013-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] Factoids Message-ID: 021101ceaf60$821bbc20$86533460$@net Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii Asking for facts is an unfair rhetorical device when debating with liberals. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

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2013-09-12 Thread Dan Penoff
. Pot, I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle. Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:33:46 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids Message-ID: 021101ceaf60$821bbc20$86533460$@net Content-Type: text/plain

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2013-09-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
Maybe I should have used the more generic term reward vs income. But it's the same principle. Your DIY work gives you a reward. With greater skill and better tools you can produce an even greater reward for yourself. Best of all, the government doesn't get a piece of your reward. If they did,

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2013-09-12 Thread OK Don
Or conservatives - both sides adhere to their dogma, regardless of reality. 43% of all statistics are made up on the spot. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Asking for facts is an unfair rhetorical device when debating with liberals. Greg --

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2013-09-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:25 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids Same as expecting debate without personal attacks when talking to conservatives... -Curt Well hello Mr. Pot, I'd like to introduce you to Mr

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2013-09-12 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: ...earn the same as a drunk who shows up occasionally to stock shelves? If so, where is the incentive to produce things of value? I call straw man. I also encourage us to DIY. There is satisfaction in DIY, regardless of income. Be happy. Income disparity is a ploy to foment

[MBZ] Factoids

2013-09-11 Thread Gerry Archer
Recent survey shows inequality in the US is at its new peak. The richest 1 percent of the population received almost a fifth of the national households' income in 2012, thus breaking the previous record set in 1928. -- The top 10 percent of earners took more than half of the

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2013-09-11 Thread clay
The fall of the empire is nigh. The Romans fell when they quit being grounded and became effete multiculturalists. Our culture is derivative and weak. Nobody wants to work to gain the perks of life. The society teaches them to expect to be cared for and given cable TV, a home, healthcare, a

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2013-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick
Gee, you must be confusing Richard Nixon and Barack Obama. Sorry to say, you may be needing a new vision prescription. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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2013-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick
The Romans fell when they got a nice empire and started getting filthy rich off other people's work. A massive disease outbreak in the army didn't help much, either. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2013-09-11 Thread Gerry Archer
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net The Romans fell when they got a nice empire and started getting filthy rich off other people's work. A massive disease outbreak in the army didn't help much, either. Peter The theories of the decline of the Roman Empire were introduced by Edward

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2013-09-11 Thread Gerry Archer
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Gee, you must be confusing Richard Nixon and Barack Obama. Sorry to say, you may be needing a new vision prescription. Peter Huh? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2013-09-11 Thread Greg Fiorentino
the 10% or 1%, don't buy the stuff they are selling. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Factoids Recent survey shows inequality

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2013-09-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 11, 2013 2:47 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Recent survey shows inequality in the US is at its new peak. The richest 1 percent of the population received almost a fifth of the national households' income in 2012, thus breaking the previous record set in 1928. A

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2013-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick
The great shift of wealth from the middle class to the rich started in the late 60's during the Nixon Administration. It's been getting worse every since, heavily promoted by the republicans. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2013-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick
1929. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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2013-09-11 Thread Mountain Man
Alex wrote: A statement that is devoid of meaning or significance unless you can follow it up with an argument that income inequality is in some way harmful or immoral, without appealing to Marxist class envy. I don't like not having money, but... money don't buy me love. Why bitch about

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2013-09-11 Thread Scott Ritchey
the republicans (or Republicans) promote this? Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids The great shift of wealth from

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2013-09-11 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Asking for facts is an unfair rhetorical device when debating with liberals. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:54 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoids

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2013-09-11 Thread Gerry Archer
Income inequality in the United States has grown significantly since the early 1970s, after several decades of stability, and has been the subject of study of many scholars and institutions. While inequality has risen among most developed countries, and especially English-speaking ones, it is

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2013-09-11 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Factoids Recent survey shows inequality in the US is at its new peak. The richest 1 percent of the population received almost a fifth