Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-22 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Nice find! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/21/05, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike C Wrote: "I would LOVE to see that clip.Mike" > > I finally found the link to the crash video between a W220 and a Smart car > > Go to: > > http://www.whnet.com/4x4/crashes.html > > There's a LOT of other

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
Mike C Wrote: "I would LOVE to see that clip.Mike" I finally found the link to the crash video between a W220 and a Smart car Go to: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/crashes.html There's a LOT of other crash videos there too! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread John M McIntosh
I don't think they actually got any into the country for people to buy. Smart wouldn't sign a deal with them, the few they had around they bought helterskeler from various places on the globe I understand. Not even sure they converted the ones they showed either. See from their FAQ "When will

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Lee Levitt
Take a look at the car *before* the accident. Not a whole lot of crumple room in the front of that car...and not much less afterwards. Reminds me a bit of a VW Microbus, where all the crumple is in the knee, not the bodywork. Give me a properly engineered European sedan that folds like an acc

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread David Brodbeck
Mike Canfield wrote: > Probably seeing the electric vehicles Ford sells to all of the state parks > around here. > > Not even close to a Smart. Mike Or those GM "neighborhood vehicles." Glorified golf carts. I wouldn't want to be in a crash in one.

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Mitch Haley
John M McIntosh wrote: > > I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA > etc approved yet. ZAP was importing them. They recently sued D-C, so I don't think that project is going too well. http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_zapfileslegal.asp http://in.news.yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Mike Canfield
ovember 15, 2005 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars Smart doesn't make electric smarts either, perhaps you're confused with some company selling golf carts? On 15-Nov-05, at 4:49 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:38:28PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote: I wa

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread John M McIntosh
Smart doesn't make electric smarts either, perhaps you're confused with some company selling golf carts? On 15-Nov-05, at 4:49 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:38:28PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote: I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA etc approved

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:38:28PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote: > I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA > etc approved yet. Some [EMAIL PROTECTED] in san rafael sells electric smarts, apparently. I didn't think they were approved either. I've seen a few buzzing

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread John M McIntosh
I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA etc approved yet. On 15-Nov-05, at 4:16 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:32:57PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote: Overall, an amazing little car in a crash. I see a dozen of these a day! BT, WRONG. The san franc

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Rich Thomas
There is something about that phrase that is not quite right. --R The san francisco city workers' union

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:32:57PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote: > Overall, an amazing little car in a crash. I see a dozen of these a day! BT, WRONG. The san francisco city workers' union is filing suit to prevent the city from buying any more of them. The union claims that on the job injuries (m

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Mike Canfield
I would LOVE to see that clip.Mike - Original Message - From: "Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars Actually I may st

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Mike Canfield
Impressive to say the least!!! Mike - Original Message - From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] For those who like big cars Who sa

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread David Brodbeck
andrew strasfogel wrote: You see a dozen Smart car crashes a day?? They're so cute, people think they're bumper cars. All they need is that pole on the roof.

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
yes

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
You see a dozen Smart car crashes a day?? Or a dozen Smarts? On 11/15/05, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually I may still have a video of the Smart in an offset head on > crash against a W220 S-class. > > In that one the little Smart car does a pirouette and the driver's door > i

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
Actually I may still have a video of the Smart in an offset head on crash against a W220 S-class. In that one the little Smart car does a pirouette and the driver's door is easier to open than this crash video. Overall, an amazing little car in a crash. I see a dozen of these a day! Jeff Ze

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Nick Gough
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Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread TimothyPilgrim
I think they aimed it straight-on, but it hit a little more to the driver's side. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/15/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, i was actually suprised who it held up even though it seemed (from the > video) that the crash wasn't excactly straight on...or was it?

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Gabriel S.
Yes, i was actually suprised who it held up even though it seemed (from the video) that the crash wasn't excactly straight on...or was it?

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread TimothyPilgrim
True, I don't disagree. But you gotta admit, that passenger compartment held up pretty nicely. Besides, the same decelleration would inflict injury in a large car just the same. The only saving grace with a big car would be if the crumple zone reduced the decelleration g-forces by slowing the colli

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread Gabriel S.
>Who says small cars aren't safe?< Just because the car is intact doesen't mean that the passengers survived; on the contrary, the more parts that crumple or fly off the car the more energy that is released, this means less energy transfered to the passengers and less injury. I don't know if the p

Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread dave walton
If it were to do a head-on with a 350SDL, it would go from +70 to -50 instantly. Still, impressive for a matchbox - but I would not want my wife driving one. -Dave Walton On 11/15/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who says small cars aren't safe? > > http://video.google.com/videopl

[MBZ] For those who like big cars

2005-11-15 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Who says small cars aren't safe? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6605730767077503480&q=crash A smart car goes from 70 mph to zero instantly. Tim 1982 300TD Moby